Rare drron29 Posted October 8, 2023 #776 Share Posted October 8, 2023 26 minutes ago, Brad1185 said: Formal optional should not be having to wear a jacket. So the only difference to informal is the wearing of a tie? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad1185 Posted October 8, 2023 #777 Share Posted October 8, 2023 Formal optional should be collard shirt and slacks no tie, no jacket. Otherwise remove the word optional as a tie and jacket is formal. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare drron29 Posted October 8, 2023 #778 Share Posted October 8, 2023 48 minutes ago, Brad1185 said: Formal optional should be collard shirt and slacks no tie, no jacket. Otherwise remove the word optional as a tie and jacket is formal. So why not call it an informal night as there is no real formal element to your desires for Formal optional nights. I take Formal optional to mean you can dress formally if you want to but you don't have to. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare drron29 Posted October 12, 2023 #779 Share Posted October 12, 2023 So the blue jacket makes it’s first appearance. And in other news the Maitre’D and Restaurant Manager are enforcing the dress code in Atlantide. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Lois R Posted October 12, 2023 #780 Share Posted October 12, 2023 Loving that blue jacket🙂 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinaincc Posted October 12, 2023 #781 Share Posted October 12, 2023 1 hour ago, drron29 said: So the blue jacket makes it’s first appearance. And in other news the Maitre’D and Restaurant Manager are enforcing the dress code in Atlantide. Have you found this to be true on your sailing: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare drron29 Posted October 12, 2023 #782 Share Posted October 12, 2023 The dress code is listed as formal, informal or casual as it has been before Nova. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinaincc Posted October 12, 2023 #783 Share Posted October 12, 2023 (edited) 2 minutes ago, drron29 said: The dress code is listed as formal, informal or casual as it has been before Nova. So did the blue jacket make an appearance because it is a Formal optional night or are you dining in Le Dame? It must be the former since you mention the staff enforcing the policy, correct? just trying to get this straight before our first trip on Nova next year. Edited October 12, 2023 by tinaincc Additional context 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stumblefoot Posted October 12, 2023 #784 Share Posted October 12, 2023 2 hours ago, tinaincc said: So did the blue jacket make an appearance because it is a Formal optional night or are you dining in Le Dame? As Dr. Ron said, all SS Classic ships, other than Nova, still use the traditional nomenclature; formal, informal, and casual. Based on the Silver Nova graphic you posted, it’s clear there is no longer a formal “requirement” in any dining venue. I do like the clarity that your graphic provides. It certainly makes the minimal requirements expected of men clear. And, while the graphic probably won’t resolve the age old debate of why men should even be required to dress informally at certain times, we now know that on the Nova at least, men still need to wear a jacket on formal nights, even if they choose to dress accordingly as “Elegant Casual”, i.e. what SS used to refer to as informal dress. We also know that even if the night has been declared as casual ship wide, men will still need to wear a jacket in La Dame, should they wish to dine there. Coming from a super casual family who initially chose SS for the formality of its dress code, I, for one, applaud SS’s efforts to try and accommodate the wishes of many who would like to dress more casually for the entirety of their cruise, while still providing an opportunity to dress formally to those of us who like to to do so. I assume we’ll know soon enough, probably by the time Silver Ray enters the fleet, whether the attire test on the Nova was successful, or not. 🤞 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare drron29 Posted October 12, 2023 #785 Share Posted October 12, 2023 (edited) And you are requested to wear a jacket on informal nights in Atlantide, SALT/Indochine and silver note. Hence the colourful jackets come out on informal nights. Formal I wear a dinner suit. There are the usual restaurants that allow the dress code to be relaxed so no jacket required. It does depend on the Maitre'D/restaurant manager enforcing the dress code. some don't but it is on this cruise. I saw 2 gentlemen without jackets and a lady wearing shorts and a T shirt being turned away from Atlantide last night. Edited October 12, 2023 by drron29 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare ak1004 Posted October 13, 2023 #786 Share Posted October 13, 2023 We are on the Dawn in December in the Caribbean, 10 nights. I assume this is still enforced even on the Caribbean sailings? Also, on formal nights, I know some dining venues allow no jackets - what about other public areas, like bars, the shows etc? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare drron29 Posted October 13, 2023 #787 Share Posted October 13, 2023 Certainly tonight the Maitre'D of Indochine was not enforcing the dress code. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Lois R Posted October 13, 2023 #788 Share Posted October 13, 2023 23 minutes ago, ak1004 said: We are on the Dawn in December in the Caribbean, 10 nights. I assume this is still enforced even on the Caribbean sailings? Also, on formal nights, I know some dining venues allow no jackets - what about other public areas, like bars, the shows etc? Hi, yes, Caribbean sailings still have a dress code. When you look at the Chronicle's (on boarding day), it tells you what the dress code is for all the evenings. I can't remember which night was which but I sailed on The Dawn back in January to the Caribbean😃 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinaincc Posted October 13, 2023 #789 Share Posted October 13, 2023 19 hours ago, Stumblefoot said: As Dr. Ron said, all SS Classic ships, other than Nova, still use the traditional nomenclature; formal, informal, and casual. Based on the Silver Nova graphic you posted, it’s clear there is no longer a formal “requirement” in any dining venue. I do like the clarity that your graphic provides. It certainly makes the minimal requirements expected of men clear. And, while the graphic probably won’t resolve the age old debate of why men should even be required to dress informally at certain times, we now know that on the Nova at least, men still need to wear a jacket on formal nights, even if they choose to dress accordingly as “Elegant Casual”, i.e. what SS used to refer to as informal dress. We also know that even if the night has been declared as casual ship wide, men will still need to wear a jacket in La Dame, should they wish to dine there. Coming from a super casual family who initially chose SS for the formality of its dress code, I, for one, applaud SS’s efforts to try and accommodate the wishes of many who would like to dress more casually for the entirety of their cruise, while still providing an opportunity to dress formally to those of us who like to to do so. I assume we’ll know soon enough, probably by the time Silver Ray enters the fleet, whether the attire test on the Nova was successful, or not. 🤞 Thanks, I pulled the graphic off another social media platform 😃 My mistake was linking this in my head to all ships, not just Nova. Now I have it straight and am grateful that our 12 day trip is on Ray (which I assume will take on the Nove dress code.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare ak1004 Posted October 13, 2023 #790 Share Posted October 13, 2023 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Lois R said: Hi, yes, Caribbean sailings still have a dress code. When you look at the Chronicle's (on boarding day), it tells you what the dress code is for all the evenings. I can't remember which night was which but I sailed on The Dawn back in January to the Caribbean😃 Thank you. What about the public areas other than the dining venues? I'm not talking about shorts or jeans, but specifically jackets? I assume nobody will turn you down from the show without a jacket? Edited October 13, 2023 by ak1004 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Lois R Posted October 13, 2023 #791 Share Posted October 13, 2023 15 minutes ago, ak1004 said: Thank you. What about the public areas other than the dining venues? I'm not talking about shorts or jeans, but specifically jackets? I assume nobody will turn you down from the show without a jacket? Trying to give you the best answer I can----I don't know if anyone has been turned away from entering the theater without a jacket on nights they are required. I just don't really take notice (unless someone is being totally outlandish) I would probably not notice. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Lois R Posted October 13, 2023 #792 Share Posted October 13, 2023 13 hours ago, drron29 said: And you are requested to wear a jacket on informal nights in Atlantide, SALT/Indochine and silver note. Hence the colourful jackets come out on informal nights. Formal I wear a dinner suit. There are the usual restaurants that allow the dress code to be relaxed so no jacket required. It does depend on the Maitre'D/restaurant manager enforcing the dress code. some don't but it is on this cruise. I saw 2 gentlemen without jackets and a lady wearing shorts and a T shirt being turned away from Atlantide last night. Shorts and t shirt for dinner in Atlantide?😮.......so did she go change her clothes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare drron29 Posted October 13, 2023 #793 Share Posted October 13, 2023 35 minutes ago, Lois R said: Shorts and t shirt for dinner in Atlantide?😮.......so did she go change her clothes? She did indeed. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare crusinbanjo Posted October 13, 2023 #794 Share Posted October 13, 2023 The other day one guy on our cruise came to Atlantide in jeans and what looked like a biker jacket…….. Well, at least he had a jacket on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Duchess Posted October 13, 2023 #795 Share Posted October 13, 2023 On 10/12/2023 at 2:46 PM, drron29 said: So the blue jacket makes it’s first appearance. And in other news the Maitre’D and Restaurant Manager are enforcing the dress code in Atlantide. Très chic! Easy to spot you now when boarding in a few days in Hongkong😊 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lincslady Posted October 14, 2023 #796 Share Posted October 14, 2023 18 hours ago, Lemorvan said: Probably better than the cheap looking blue jacket in the photo. Everything is subjective. Bit rude!! 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare drron29 Posted October 14, 2023 #797 Share Posted October 14, 2023 2 hours ago, lincslady said: Bit rude!! Not a problem. At dinner tonight a fellow wearing a very expensive designer outfit said he liked my jacket and was impressed when I told him the cost. So to each his own. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Lois R Posted October 14, 2023 #798 Share Posted October 14, 2023 3 hours ago, lincslady said: Bit rude!! Hi Lola, I thought the same thing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canderson Posted October 14, 2023 #799 Share Posted October 14, 2023 37 minutes ago, Lemorvan said: Ah, we have the same tailor. I got two pairs of trousers plus the jacket for my $35. Can’t beat a bit of Thai tailoring. Tailoring? The way that jacket fits across the fronts of the shoulders, it's definitely not bespoke work. Yikes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare FlyerTalker Posted October 14, 2023 #800 Share Posted October 14, 2023 My rule on BKK tailors: The sooner that price is brought up in the discussion, the lower the quality. And if a price is advertised on a sign, don't even bother. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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