ldubs Posted October 20, 2023 #226 Share Posted October 20, 2023 On 10/18/2023 at 8:39 PM, Drew B 58 said: On my last cruise, I had a $70 bet. I had a pair of 8s against a dealer 4. I split, of course, and got a 3. So I doubled and got an 8 for a 19. Next card was another 8, so I split again. I got a face on the first one for an 18 and a 2 on the second. I doubled and got a ten for a 20. So I now had an 18, a 19, and a 20, and I had $350 up. The guy two after me decided to split his tens (!) and got two more tens for two 20s. The dealer had a face underneath his 4 and drew a 7, giving him 21. We all lost (and I lost a ton), when we all would have won if the guy had just stayed…. So he cost me $700! Those hands are literally the difference between leaving the cruise a winner and leaving a loser… Not a gambler. I guess the point here is 10's come up more often so by splitting his 10's the guy changed the odds the dealer would get a 10? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew B 58 Posted October 20, 2023 #227 Share Posted October 20, 2023 44 minutes ago, ldubs said: Not a gambler. I guess the point here is 10's come up more often so by splitting his 10's the guy changed the odds the dealer would get a 10? In reality, it could have gone the other way. His splitting could have saved my $350 bet. And if that had happened, I would have thanked him for doing the “wrong” thing. Because it did hurt me (and him and the rest of the table), though, I blamed him. However, if he had done the “right” thing and stayed, I wouldn’t have blamed him, whether it helped me or hurt me. I can’t fault people for playing smart… 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbrown84 Posted October 21, 2023 #228 Share Posted October 21, 2023 1 hour ago, Drew B 58 said: In reality, it could have gone the other way. His splitting could have saved my $350 bet. And if that had happened, I would have thanked him for doing the “wrong” thing. Because it did hurt me (and him and the rest of the table), though, I blamed him. However, if he had done the “right” thing and stayed, I wouldn’t have blamed him, whether it helped me or hurt me. I can’t fault people for playing smart… the worst is he had absolutely no respect for the big bet. You got $350 on the table, he probably had 10 bucks, but he had a feeling.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew B 58 Posted October 21, 2023 #229 Share Posted October 21, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, dbrown84 said: the worst is he had absolutely no respect for the big bet. You got $350 on the table, he probably had 10 bucks, but he had a feeling.... I think he had $25, the table minimum… edited to add he had $50 because he split… Edited October 21, 2023 by Drew B 58 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbrown84 Posted October 21, 2023 #230 Share Posted October 21, 2023 59 minutes ago, Drew B 58 said: I think he had $25, the table minimum… edited to add he had $50 because he split… wow. shocked to hear that someone at a $25 table would do such a thing. Oh well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew B 58 Posted October 21, 2023 #231 Share Posted October 21, 2023 (edited) 12 minutes ago, dbrown84 said: wow. shocked to hear that someone at a $25 table would do such a thing. Oh well I’ve seen terrible players betting $100+/hand and I’ve seen very good players at a $2 table (back in the day when those were a thing). Having money and having sense are not the same thing! 😉 Edited October 21, 2023 by Drew B 58 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare 1kaper Posted October 21, 2023 #232 Share Posted October 21, 2023 12 hours ago, davy jones said: My theory is that they use minimal amounts of sugar to keep costs low. Bread uses little or no sugar. BTW - I find this to be the case on many cruise lines. I have only sailed Carnival and MSC but before I even sailed MsC I have said it is amazing how Carnival can make a cake without flavour. I have rarely in my life met a cake I didn’t like but Carnival introduced me. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ldubs Posted October 21, 2023 #233 Share Posted October 21, 2023 (edited) 5 hours ago, Drew B 58 said: In reality, it could have gone the other way. His splitting could have saved my $350 bet. And if that had happened, I would have thanked him for doing the “wrong” thing. Because it did hurt me (and him and the rest of the table), though, I blamed him. However, if he had done the “right” thing and stayed, I wouldn’t have blamed him, whether it helped me or hurt me. I can’t fault people for playing smart… Deleted -- had a question about why it is bad to split 10s. Found a consensus on the internet. Thanks! Edited October 21, 2023 by ldubs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelkel2 Posted October 21, 2023 #234 Share Posted October 21, 2023 On 10/18/2023 at 9:51 PM, Illbcruzn4life said: I see what you mean. $56 more if you are a couple. I’m a family of 4. And my children pay full tips too. So yes it does add up for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rainbowflag Posted October 21, 2023 #235 Share Posted October 21, 2023 On 10/16/2023 at 6:00 PM, ldubs said: Hmmm, missing strawberries. Hopefully the captain got to the bottom of that. 😄 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rainbowflag Posted October 21, 2023 #236 Share Posted October 21, 2023 On 10/13/2023 at 7:11 AM, staceyglow said: We always have a table for 2 because we get YTD and request it when we check in every night. Can you request a table for 2 using the Hub app or do you mean you walk-in, request and then begin your wait time? Thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rainbowflag Posted October 21, 2023 #237 Share Posted October 21, 2023 On 10/11/2023 at 4:16 PM, shiner6 said: The desserts looked fabulous, but the taste did not match up. Make less, but make them taste better. This is true with one exception: the FunFetti cheesecake served on embark day in the lido buffet on some, but not all, Carnival ships has a center layer of real cheesecake that has an exceptional sugary goodness to it. Later in the week, the buffet includes fake "cheesecake" that gelatin has been added to it to cut down on the amount of cream cheese used to save on food cost. We never touch those because the "cheesecake" bounces to the touch and there's never a jiggle to good cheesecake until it lands on the hips 🙂 6 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ldubs Posted October 21, 2023 #238 Share Posted October 21, 2023 We were on a Carnival cruise out of SF last year. I saw the wonderful looking cakes displayed during lunch. I went back after dinner and was disappointed they had been removed. I don't understand that approach. Maybe they fear people will want cake. 😃 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
havanadaydreaming Posted October 22, 2023 Author #239 Share Posted October 22, 2023 6 hours ago, ldubs said: We were on a Carnival cruise out of SF last year. I saw the wonderful looking cakes displayed during lunch. I went back after dinner and was disappointed they had been removed. I don't understand that approach. Maybe they fear people will want cake. 😃 Lunch cake is definitely > dinner cake. By a wide, wide margin. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
staceyglow Posted October 22, 2023 #240 Share Posted October 22, 2023 9 hours ago, rainbowflag said: Can you request a table for 2 using the Hub app or do you mean you walk-in, request and then begin your wait time? Thank you You can indicate that you don't want to be seated with other guests at the time you check in with the Hub app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazyank Posted October 22, 2023 #241 Share Posted October 22, 2023 On 10/21/2023 at 2:06 AM, dbrown84 said: the worst is he had absolutely no respect for the big bet. You got $350 on the table, he probably had 10 bucks, but he had a feeling.... Why should he respect the "big" bet? I couldn't care less what somebody else bets, I'm gonna play my hand the way I want to. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbrown84 Posted October 22, 2023 #242 Share Posted October 22, 2023 4 hours ago, crazyank said: Why should he respect the "big" bet? I couldn't care less what somebody else bets, I'm gonna play my hand the way I want to. hey, do you playa. Everyone can simply leave and find another table 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rainbowflag Posted October 22, 2023 #243 Share Posted October 22, 2023 11 hours ago, staceyglow said: You can indicate that you don't want to be seated with other guests at the time you check in with the Hub app We've seen that on the app and we asked about it and the maitre d' said it means "are you willing to sit at a shared table with others (like traditional seating) in order to be seated sooner." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngrund Posted October 22, 2023 #244 Share Posted October 22, 2023 (edited) 6 hours ago, crazyank said: Why should he respect the "big" bet? I couldn't care less what somebody else bets, I'm gonna play my hand the way I want to. In this case, the guy splitting 10s was making one of the worst possible plays, and all for the very remote possibility of getting an extra $25 if the dealer busts, and with the very likely outcome of costing the whole table their bets, including our hero with the large bet- If I was there, after trying to politely explain in $ terms, why he shouldn't split, I might even offer to just give him the $25 to stand. Blackjack success is about the proper play based on the math. I have also been on the other side, at 3rd base with a minimum bet, and another player had started with a larger bet, with several splits/doubles and I had a hand that wasn't pat, and about 50/50 if better for me to hit or stand (dealer had a bust card up), and have deferred to the other player on the decision. Edited October 22, 2023 by ngrund typo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
staceyglow Posted October 22, 2023 #245 Share Posted October 22, 2023 2 hours ago, rainbowflag said: We've seen that on the app and we asked about it and the maitre d' said it means "are you willing to sit at a shared table with others (like traditional seating) in order to be seated sooner." Correct. That's if you check the box. If you don't check the box, you will get your own table. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare 1kaper Posted October 22, 2023 #246 Share Posted October 22, 2023 My CCL pet peeve - John Heald. I’ve actually sailed with him before I even knew who he was. I initially liked him and his page on another social media. Maybe it was because I was following it closely during and post covid that I started noticing thing. I truly believe he either exaggerates the messages he receives in order to inflame people. Or he intentionally chooses to share the worst, knowing full well it doesn’t represent the majority. Or maybe both. I dislike the rage farming. But I guess it gets him read and clicks so who am I to criticize. I enjoyed the other posts with information, pictures from different trips and such. But I can’t follow it anymore because the baiting drives me crazy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbrown84 Posted October 22, 2023 #247 Share Posted October 22, 2023 3 hours ago, ngrund said: In this case, the guy splitting 10s was making one of the worst possible plays, and all for the very remote possibility of getting an extra $25 if the dealer busts, and with the very likely outcome of costing the whole table their bets, including our hero with the large bet- If I was there, after trying to politely explain in $ terms, why he shouldn't split, I might even offer to just give him the $25 to stand. Blackjack success is about the proper play based on the math. I have also been on the other side, at 3rd base with a minimum bet, and another player had started with a larger bet, with several splits/doubles and I had a hand that wasn't pat, and about 50/50 if better for me to hit or stand (dealer had a bust card up), and have deferred to the other player on the decision. excellent post. I was going to post the same, but given this person's answer, I felt it would fall on deaf ears. I have played with others with that attitude, and I've just cashed in my chips and went to another table. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VaTech8912 Posted October 22, 2023 #248 Share Posted October 22, 2023 (edited) -Individuals who stay all day in a hottub, never gettnig out, while drinking non-stop...who has a bladder that big? Nobody...😬 -People who insist on "joining" either the comedy show, magician, etc. with comments they think are either funny or cute. Let the performers do their job and be quiet, quit ruining the show for others☹️ Edited October 22, 2023 by VaTech8912 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew B 58 Posted October 22, 2023 #249 Share Posted October 22, 2023 15 hours ago, crazyank said: Why should he respect the "big" bet? I couldn't care less what somebody else bets, I'm gonna play my hand the way I want to. I completely agree. Every player has a right to play their hand(s) however they like, including poorly. The rest of us, though, have every right to complain when their poor play affects us adversely… 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew B 58 Posted October 22, 2023 #250 Share Posted October 22, 2023 9 hours ago, ngrund said: In this case, the guy splitting 10s was making one of the worst possible plays, and all for the very remote possibility of getting an extra $25 if the dealer busts, and with the very likely outcome of costing the whole table their bets, including our hero with the large bet- If I was there, after trying to politely explain in $ terms, why he shouldn't split, I might even offer to just give him the $25 to stand. Blackjack success is about the proper play based on the math. I have also been on the other side, at 3rd base with a minimum bet, and another player had started with a larger bet, with several splits/doubles and I had a hand that wasn't pat, and about 50/50 if better for me to hit or stand (dealer had a bust card up), and have deferred to the other player on the decision. It could always go either way. That’s why it’s called gambling. His poor choice could have saved the whole table. I’m not a statistician, so I can’t say whether playing “correctly” is more likely to harm or help others. I just know it is more likely to benefit the player him/herself in the long run. However, in a case like this where we could all see that it harmed the whole table (including that player himself), it’s only natural to feel upset that he didn’t choose differently… 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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