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On a recent cruise on another cruise line, we asked the Cruise Director when he was talking about new ships coming out if he thought that a non-smoking ship might be in the cards...the answer was that smokers tend to drink more in the bars and go to the casino more....so don't hold your breath!

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On a recent cruise on another cruise line, we asked the Cruise Director when he was talking about new ships coming out if he thought that a non-smoking ship might be in the cards...the answer was that smokers tend to drink more in the bars and go to the casino more....so don't hold your breath!

 

It sounds like holding my breath is exactly what I must do. Either that or start patronizing lines that prohibit smoking. If they want to see the free market at work, now's the time. Did you ask the CD how much people who give up RCCL to sail on other lines spend in the casinos and bars?

 

 

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Does it matter whether or not people are allergic to smoke? It's nasty and foul and gives me a fierce headache. On our most recent cruise we were in an aft balcony on the top floor with the huge deck. We could not wait to sit and enjoy the sunshine and salt air. Guess what! The man on the deck right below us hung on the railing smoking a cigar blowing more smoke than I thought was possible. It reeked, blew right up to our balcony. He was out there so much puffing away that it was a real negative for us. He looked around, noticed all of the other people on their decks but kept right on smoking which told us that he wasn't going to curb his addiction even if requested to do so. (And, by the way, nicotine did give me a whelp the size of a quarter if not bigger when the allergy tests were done. I guess I'll have to tell my allergist that cigarette smoke doesn't cause wheezing, coughing or cancer.)

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the Smoking half of the casino with major AC on high, so the rest of us can enjoy ourselves. Cigars are to be enjoyed in the CIGAR BAR ONLY!

 

Amazing that they will see there are more nonsmokers than smokers & they deal with it! And save on insurance premiums for smoke free enviroment. Same with the bars too!

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the Smoking half of the casino with major AC on high, so the rest of us can enjoy ourselves. Cigars are to be enjoyed in the CIGAR BAR ONLY!

 

Amazing that they will see there are more nonsmokers than smokers & they deal with it! And save on insurance premiums for smoke free enviroment. Same with the bars too!

On our last GOS cruise there were a couple of men smoking cigars on the open deck. I was surprised they weren't told to put them out. It was kind of gross.

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***Pet peeve alert!***

 

It is VERY rare for a person to be "allergic" to smoke.

 

The United States Surgeon General estimates that less than .0001% of the population has a "smoke allergy". That would be 280 people in the US. People who actually have viable allergies to smoke often have severe immune system defects and rarely survive past a few months old, and only then under extreme circumstances. (Think: Plastic Bubble!)

 

Smoke is not an allergen. It is an irritant. An allergen must contain a protein. There are no proteins in cigarette smoke.

 

Irritating? Yes. Allergenic? No.

 

*** End Pet peeve alert***

 

AMEN to this! I have never understood the whole "allergy" excuse either. Why don't people just say it bothers them instead of insisting it's a medical condition....really super annoying.

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I would love the choice of a non-smoking cabin section on a cruise ship and I always indicate this on my post-cruise comment cards. When I have a choice to book a non-smoking hotel, I do so.

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You're right. I was in a rush and used the wrong words. By allergic, I meant to state that when I breath in smoke, my eyes, and stomach get irritated. My wife has asthma and she can get an attack from breathing in smoke.

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Does it matter whether or not people are allergic to smoke? It's nasty and foul and gives me a fierce headache. On our most recent cruise we were in an aft balcony on the top floor with the huge deck. We could not wait to sit and enjoy the sunshine and salt air. Guess what! The man on the deck right below us hung on the railing smoking a cigar blowing more smoke than I thought was possible. It reeked, blew right up to our balcony. He was out there so much puffing away that it was a real negative for us. He looked around, noticed all of the other people on their decks but kept right on smoking which told us that he wasn't going to curb his addiction even if requested to do so. (And, by the way, nicotine did give me a whelp the size of a quarter if not bigger when the allergy tests were done. I guess I'll have to tell my allergist that cigarette smoke doesn't cause wheezing, coughing or cancer.)

 

So why do you pay good money to put yourself in this position. I sure wouldn't pay out money to spend a week around irritants.

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I smoke. I smoke on the pool deck on the designated side. I smoke in the casino. I smoke on my balcony. I smoke in the designated lounge areas. I try hard to be considerate to those that don't smoke. Now if I could just light up while sipping my coffee, waiting for my dessert, I'd be a happy man. (just kidding) I did notice one RC ship that had the international sign for no smoking on the back. I made a mental note to never book a cruise on that ship. It would drive me nuts. I do agree that they should designate cabins for smokers.

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I would love the choice of a non-smoking cabin section on a cruise ship and I always indicate this on my post-cruise comment cards. When I have a choice to book a non-smoking hotel, I do so.

One of the differences between booking a hotel room and a stateroom on a cruiseship is that when you book a hotel room, you are pretty much at the mercy of the front desk as to what room you will be assigned. You can request a smoking or a non-smoking room, ocean or city view,perhaps a garden view, high or low floor location, and specific bed arrangements but you generally can't request a specific room as you do when you book a cruise. Many, if not most, cruisers choose a specific room when they seek to book their cruise. If they were now to designate certain rooms or decks as non-smoking, some people might find that when they want to book, they will be shut off from a particular side of the ship, a particular deck, or a particular location on the deck, or a particular category of room.

 

Until the cruiselines become convinced that offering non-smoking rooms won't limit their ability to fill their ships, it is probably not likely that they will decide to add another factor into the booking process. Carnival's decision to reverse their non-smoking policy on the Paradise, probably set the whole process back a number of years. Perhaps the recent decision by some major hotel chains to go totally non-smoking will help, but it will probably take a while.:)

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Yes, Bill is right.

 

It's never going to happen, folks.

 

People want to book the cabin they want. Once you start designating some cabins in each category, there will be people who want *that* cabin, but are in the other category, and there's nothing in *their* category that they want.

 

It becomes WAY too complicated in the execution. The theory sounds good, but it's just not workable.

 

Those ionizers work very well.

 

For the record, to respond to many of the different comments made so far:

 

I don't smoke. I have never smoked. I will never smoke. But I understand that there are people who do. Learn to get along with them.

 

My mother smoked three packs a day of unfiltered cigarettes from the age of 13 to the age of 52, including, obviously, while she was pregnant with me.

 

I don't have asthma. I'm as healthy as a horse. (well, I *do* have an allergy to cats, but because I love cats, I am cat-sitting my GrandKitty while my daughter is studying abroad this semester)

 

So, suck it up, people. That's life.

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Smoking is allowed on RCCL ships on all outside decks in the smoking areas (normally the starboard/ right side of the ship). Also allowed in smoking areas in most if not all onboard bars and the casinos, and in "all cabins and balconies." I am a smoker and only smoke in the allowed areas. We never book a cabin without a balcony so I do not smoke in my cabin but I do smoke on my balcony unless my neighbors are using theirs as I do not feel that it would be right to infringe on their space.

 

Tanker4

 

Thank you for your courtesy and I believe if all smokers were like you, there would be fewer smoking rules and laws.

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You're right. I was in a rush and used the wrong words. By allergic, I meant to state that when I breath in smoke, my eyes, and stomach get irritated. My wife has asthma and she can get an attack from breathing in smoke.

Not to mention cancer and other serious lung problems.

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Hi alwalaska,

 

Thank you for the kind comment. I do not smoke in my house nor any of my vehicles so I don't feel that I should do any different while cruising. We just got back from the Enchantment where I did smoke on my balcony and by the second day, our "neighbors" and I had a running joke going about taking turns on our balconies. They didn't smoke and I did, so we both respected each others life styles.

 

Happy cruising!!

 

Tanker4

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FYI, Disney prohibits smoking in their staterooms. You can smoke on balconies, but not in cabins :cool: Wonder why other lines can't do the same? I'm a cigar smoker myself but wouldn't dream of smoking one in the room, bet it would take an ionizer awhile to clear that air. As a poster stated earlier, I don't light up at home why need to in my cabin ;)

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I am a smoker, but appear to be an exception to the rules, like a previous poster. I agree they should designate smoking and non-smoking cabins. I never smoke in my cabin. Even as a smoker, I couldn't stand to be in such a small place filled with smoke. I like to think I'm a courteous smoker and take my non-smoker friends/companions into consideration. If I'm somewhere it's going to affect others, I just don't light up.

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Yes, Bill is right.

 

For the record, to respond to many of the different comments made so far:

 

I don't smoke. I have never smoked. I will never smoke. But I understand that there are people who do. Learn to get along with them.

 

My mother smoked three packs a day of unfiltered cigarettes from the age of 13 to the age of 52, including, obviously, while she was pregnant with me.

 

I don't have asthma. I'm as healthy as a horse. (well, I *do* have an allergy to cats, but because I love cats, I am cat-sitting my GrandKitty while my daughter is studying abroad this semester)

 

So, suck it up, people. That's life.

 

I know this off the topic of non-smoking cabins, but I have to say it: I am glad to hear you are as healthy as a horse, but you are the exception to the rule. There is plenty of evidence to support that smoking during pregnancy and around children does cause adverse health effects including asthma. Now that we know this information, I think parents should behave responsibly and all smokers should be considerate of their fellow non-smokers. It's not "life" to knowingly cause harm to people around you, it's negligence.

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Agreed . Although I think that is pretty common, unfortunately...

 

Still, you don't know, rsail203 COULD just be one of those 280 in the US...

 

My peeve is smokers and my mother STILL smokes - grrrr! The worst is when she stands in my kitchen "smoking" out of the French doors - apparently that counts as "smoking outdoors" (despite the smell wafting through the rest of the house ). Must have words about that - haven't found a diplomatic way to put it yet...

 

Boo

 

Reminds me of a story! ;) About 15 years ago, my wife had a great aunt die, and since she had no children or other relatives, I got sent over to take a few items from her. My MIL wanted the player piano and a few personal items, and my wife said, that she had a new Sears refrigerator, that we could use in the garage. The little old lady had basically lived as a shut in for the last 20 years of her life, smoking and ordering food brought in. So, anyway we get to her little house, and the smell was powerful. So, I load up the few items that I was sent to get, a harvest gold piano to match the harvest gold refrigerator and the harvest gold drapes, and the harvest gold cabinets. The refrigerator was a bit of a manhandling job, and it was a hot day, and I was perspiring a bit, and after we loaded it into the truck I noticed that I had a big smear of yellow on my t shirt. Noticed that the "paint" job on the fridge was no longer uniform. Didn't think much about it until I unloaded it in the garage, when I put a wash cloth to it and the harvest gold came right off. The items were all white. She didn't buy anything in harvest gold. It was the result of years of closed windows and cigarette smoke. BLLLEEEECCHHH!!!:eek: :D

 

<end of story and beginning of soap box>

That said, smoking is legal and I get really tired of all the doo-gooders in the world telling business how they have to run their private property. Nobody has a right to tell others how they should operate their business. Nobody has a right to go into a private business and expect them to offer them a non smoking experience. You do have the right to not support the restaurant and to support another that provides an atmosphere that pleases you. Yes, I wish the cruiselines would offer non smoking rooms if they want to. I hope to heck no country tries to write laws to force them. 2nd hand smoke is a lot less dangerous than most people believe and act. Of course, since we live in a world of fake fears, none of this surprises me it only saddens me.

<end of soap box>:D

 

jc

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FYI, Disney prohibits smoking in their staterooms. You can smoke on balconies, but not in cabins :cool: Wonder why other lines can't do the same? I'm a cigar smoker myself but wouldn't dream of smoking one in the room, bet it would take an ionizer awhile to clear that air. As a poster stated earlier, I don't light up at home why need to in my cabin ;)

 

Although I agree, Disney tends to do things differently in several ways...

 

Disney also does not have a Casino like other cruise lines (which is usually a very heavy smoking area) so maybe they have decided to make their money in other ways.

 

Disney cruises seem to be some of the most expensive ones out there.

 

Disney includes unlimited pop and other beverages at a drink station outside of the buffet.

 

Their kids clubs are usually open for more hours than the others I have seen.

 

I think the power of their name and reputation sometimes allows them to do things that others do not.

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My husband and I smoke. We book an inside room but we don't smoke in it because the room is just too small and one lit cigarette can actually set off the smoke detector (as we found out on our Sovereign cruise).

 

We always smoke in the designated areas.

 

There are many pet peeves that we must all learn to deal with when cruising. To paraphrase Merion Mom - that's life and we all just have to learn to get along.

 

I wish they could designate certain cabins as smoking. But I understand why it's just not possible from a practical standpoint. Maybe if they did that, you would then be faced with this dilemna... To get the exact cabin you want, you may have to accept that it is a smoking cabin, one that was previously smoked in. If you're fine with that, then you get the cabin and if not, you book another cabin. Sure would be an incentive to book early to insure you got a cabin that was truly smoke-free.

 

You may not like our habit but that doesn't mean we are bad people or not courteous.

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