mufi Posted June 17, 2007 #1 Share Posted June 17, 2007 We will be aboard the QM2 when she sails in to Southampton for the first time after the UK smoking ban comes in on 1 July. I know that when a ship is in UK territorial waters and is docking in a UK port the regulations will apply. How long is she in UK waters before docking and will this affect smokers only on the final morning? It will be interesting to see how this is handled aboard. David. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norfolk Brit Posted June 17, 2007 #2 Share Posted June 17, 2007 We were recently in French territorial waters and their smoking legislation, which is similar to ours, had no impact on smoking regulations on board. Any idea why there is a discrepancy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kindlychap Posted June 17, 2007 #3 Share Posted June 17, 2007 We were recently in French territorial waters and their smoking legislation, which is similar to ours, had no impact on smoking regulations on board. Any idea why there is a discrepancy? Were you on a vessel flying the red ensign? If so, I would say that it was the duty of the Master to ignore such petty laws belonging to the French! Don't they recall who won Trafalgar? Matthew (half jesting) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travel-to-go Posted June 17, 2007 #4 Share Posted June 17, 2007 Were you on a vessel flying the red ensign? If so, I would say that it was the duty of the Master to ignore such petty laws belonging to the French! Don't they recall who won Trafalgar? Matthew (half jesting) Now, now, Matthew, We won the revolution, but we still let you have your silly little trifles and piffle! Karie, also half in jest! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kindlychap Posted June 17, 2007 #5 Share Posted June 17, 2007 Now, now, Matthew,We won the revolution, but we still let you have your silly little trifles and piffle! Karie, also half in jest! I think you'll find that we won the Revolution. Matthew (Deadly serious!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pnhmrk Posted June 17, 2007 #6 Share Posted June 17, 2007 Any idea why there is a discrepancy? I suspect that it's something to do with the ship being "in transit" and therefore not being part of France. If the ship had its home port in France it would be subject to the French regulations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare ollienbertsmum Posted June 17, 2007 #7 Share Posted June 17, 2007 [quote=pnhmrk; Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Rare ollienbertsmum Posted June 17, 2007 #9 Share Posted June 17, 2007 Oh no have I missed the revolution Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transatlantic fan Posted June 17, 2007 #10 Share Posted June 17, 2007 We were recently in French territorial waters and their smoking legislation, which is similar to ours, had no impact on smoking regulations on board. Any idea why there is a discrepancy? Having been to Paris only 2 weeks ago no one is taking any notice of any ban. All the bars we went in it was carry on smoking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ribble Posted June 18, 2007 #11 Share Posted June 18, 2007 test This comment ("Test") is disarmingly intuitive and wholly engaging. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken_W Posted June 18, 2007 #12 Share Posted June 18, 2007 I love trifles, I only wish I fresh gooseberries rather than the canned ones to make it with. Never had piffle, though; anyone have a good recipe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wadadli1 Posted June 18, 2007 #13 Share Posted June 18, 2007 test I would suggest this to you and sundry....when the message you post seems to have gone astray, try the Refesh button first. Often that gets things sorted out and you can tell for sure if your message went thru or not. Also, if you get a "you already posted this" message, trust it first. If it didn't go thru, have another go. This, obviously, means that if it seems the site is crawling along and may lose messages, if you've got a really good one, you might wish to copy it before you attempt to send it off. So you can paste it in a new message box if you need to repeat the effort. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pb82 Posted June 18, 2007 #14 Share Posted June 18, 2007 ... Never had piffle, though; anyone have a good recipe? Sometimes ignorance is bliss, and easier on the stomach. Don't believe any recipe from the othersiders; over there they make it with balderdash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wadadli1 Posted June 18, 2007 #15 Share Posted June 18, 2007 Sometimes ignorance is bliss, and easier on the stomach. Don't believe any recipe from the othersiders; over there they make it with balderdash. Where do I get this balderdash, of which you speak? Sounds tasty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ribble Posted June 18, 2007 #16 Share Posted June 18, 2007 I love trifles, I only wish I fresh gooseberries rather than the canned ones to make it with. Never had piffle, though; anyone have a good recipe? Never had piffle? That's Ok, it is insignificant and unworthy of discussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travel-to-go Posted June 18, 2007 #17 Share Posted June 18, 2007 Never had piffle? That's Ok, it is insignificant and unworthy of discussion. Am I suffering from Ignorance or apathy? I don't know and I don't care! Karie, who needs to go to bed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken_W Posted June 18, 2007 #18 Share Posted June 18, 2007 Of course I was joking, but after thinking about it for a few hours I'm rather surprised that there isn't a British dessert called "piffle"; I mean, considering what some of those other desserts got named (I'm looking directly at you, Spotted Dick) it just surprising, is all I'm saying, and me originally from Detroit. Meanwhile I made a steamed treacle sponge this weekend and served it with a choice of either golden syrup or warm home-made custard. It served eight, not a scrap left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pnhmrk Posted June 18, 2007 #19 Share Posted June 18, 2007 I made a steamed treacle sponge this weekend Sponge?What's wrong with a good suet dumpling?:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare 3rdGenCunarder Posted June 18, 2007 #20 Share Posted June 18, 2007 Sorry to interrupt the discussion of cholesterol-laden puds, but to get back to the original question...I believe it depends on the country in which the ship is registered. Last time I was on QE2, I was told that if England went no-smoking, QE2 would have to follow suit, as she is [until Nov 08 :( ] part of England. Don't know if that's true. QM isn't British-flagged, so I doubt the smoking ban will change her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Namvet4 Posted June 18, 2007 #21 Share Posted June 18, 2007 I believe it depends on the country in which the ship is registered. . . . . .QM isn't British-flagged, so I doubt the smoking ban will change her. Pardon my ignorance, :confused: but I thought that the Queen Mary 2 was registered in Great Britain and thereby "British flagged".... ?????? Am I incorrect in my understanding? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare 3rdGenCunarder Posted June 18, 2007 #22 Share Posted June 18, 2007 Is QM Brit-flagged? I thought she wasn't, because she was built after the Carnival purchase. If she is Brit-flagged, then I guess the ban will be in effect on her, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exlondoner Posted June 18, 2007 #23 Share Posted June 18, 2007 QM2 is in the British Registry, and flies the British Flag. Pause for cheers or not. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pnhmrk Posted June 18, 2007 #24 Share Posted June 18, 2007 If she is Brit-flagged, then I guess the ban will be in effect on her, too. Only whilst she's in British territorial waters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare 3rdGenCunarder Posted June 18, 2007 #25 Share Posted June 18, 2007 Only while in territorial waters? Then that just means at the very ends of the cruise. I was told that it would apply at all times. Don't remember who told me that, probably not a reliable source... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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