Oville Posted May 16, 2009 #26 Share Posted May 16, 2009 Don't you think the exchange rate has to come into play here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare kernow Posted May 16, 2009 #27 Share Posted May 16, 2009 Hi Julie If it was because of the VAT then why didnt they charge the higher drink prices when the Navigator first started sailing from Southampton a couple of years ago? :confused: Oh I hadn't thought of that! Perhaps it IS just RCL trying to make more money out of us Brits then. I don't understand why it should just be ships from Southampton though, Vision was definitely no more expensive. Just hope they don't do the same thing with Eclipse next year. Julie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peck Posted May 16, 2009 #28 Share Posted May 16, 2009 These are the bar prices for P&O and there is no 15% tip to add. Surely if they can sell and make profits at these prices then RCCL can. Its all of us RCCL are ripping off no matter which country you are from or region yoiu are cruising P&O are a similar class of line to RCCL and cruise worldwide with these bar prices. Cocktails & Mixed Drinks Pimms No 1 - £2.70 Pimms Misty - £3.05 Pimms Rose - £3.50 Pimms Turbo - £4.35 Bacardi Daiquiri - £3.00 Brandy Crusta - £3.00 John Collins - £3.00 Tom Collins - £3.00 Whiskey Sour - £3.00 Dry Martini - £3.10 Kir Classique - £3.10 Screwdriver - £3.10 White Lady - £3.10 Grasshopper - £3.25 Manhattan - £3.25 Sunshine - £3.25 Surfboard - £3.25 Black Russian - £3.45 Brandy Alexander - £3.45 Negroni - £3.45 Rob Roy - £3.45 Sidecar - £3.45 Bloody Mary - £3.75 Blue Lagoon - £3.75 Chi Chi - £3.75 Moscow Mule - £3.75 Snowball - £3.75 Kir Royale - £4.30 Mai Tai - £4.30 Oriana Peach Royale - £4.30 Yellow Bird - £4.30 Bucks Fizz - £3.25 (125 ml glass) Champagne NV Moet & Chandon Brut Imperial NV Bottle - £34.50 1/2 Bottle _ £17.25 Glass (12.5cl)- £5.75 House Wine Californian Red, White, Blush Glass (12.5cl) - £1.95 Glass (17.5cl) - £2.55 Spritzer Glass - £1.90 Whiskey Bells, Famous Grouse - £2.00 De Luxe J Walker Black Label - £2.30 J Walker Red Label - £2.30 Chivas Regal - £2.30 Malt Glenfiddich - £2.30 De Luxe malts Laphroaig - £2.50 Scapa - £2.50 Glendronach - £2.50 Glenmorangie - £2.50 Boubon Jim Beam - £2.05 Canadian Canadian Club - £2.05 Irish Jameson - £2.05 Premium Bourbon Jack Daniels - £2.20 Gin Gordon's - £2.00 Premium Gin Bombay Sapphire - £2.20 Vodka Smirnoff - £2.05 Premium Vodka Absolut Red - £2.25 Stolichnaya - £2.50 Rum Bacardi Carta Blana - £1.90 Lamb's Navy - £1.90 Bacardi reserva - £2.05 Aperitifs/Madeira/Port/Sherry Cinzano - £2.00 Martini - £2.00 Campari - £2.00 Pernod - £2.00 Cognac - £2.00 Cognac V.S.O.P. - £2.55 Hine Antique - £4.25 Hennessy XO - £5.25 Remy Martin XO - £5.50 Calvados - £1.95 Armagnac - £2.30 Taylor's Vintage Port - £4.15 Liquers & Speciality Spirits Drambuie - £2.25 Baileys - £2.25 Cointreau - £2.25 Grand Marnier - £2.25 Tia maria _ £2.25 Archers - £2.25 Southern Confort - £2.25 Tequila - £2.25 Beers & Lagers Becks non-alcoholic 330ml - £1.85 Becks 330ml - £2.25 Grolsch 330ml - £2.25 Stella Artois 330ml - £2.25 Budweisser 33oml - £2.25 Ale & Bitter Bass Pale 330ml - £1.75 Boddington's Draught 440ml - £2.00 Caffrey's Irish Ale - £2.00 John Smiths Extra Smooth 440ml - £2.00 Newcastle Brown Ale 440ml - £2.00 Marstons Pedigree 500ml - £2.25 Guiness Draught Can 440ml - £2.30 Strongbow Cider 440ml - £2.00 Draught Bitter Pint - £2.25 Draught Lager Pint - £2.50 Bitter Shandy Pint - £2.15 Lager Shandy Pint - £2.40 Underberg Bitters - £0.60 Bacardi Breezer 275 ml - £2.50 all measures 25 millilitres Soft Drinks Orange juice 330ml - £1.35 Ginger Beer 330ml - £1.10 Fruit Juices 330ml - £1.20 Apple drinks 330ml - £1.35 Diet Sprite 330ml - £1.10 Diet Fanta 330 ml - £1.10 Cranberry Presse 250ml - £1.35 Elderflower Presse 250ml - £1.35 Perrier Sparkling 330ml - £1.30 Still Mineral Water 330ml - £0.95 Still & Sparkling 1 1/2 litre - £1.55 Coke 150ml - £0.75 Mixers 150ml - £0.75 Soda Water 250ml - £0.40 lemonade & Lime 250ml - £1.15 __________________ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suzyluvs2cruise Posted May 16, 2009 #29 Share Posted May 16, 2009 We were just on the Radiance of the Seas cruise from Santiago, Chile to San Diego. Drink prices were higher than those we had on our Sept '08 b2b on the Jewel (Baltics and TA). The drink menu did note..........in small print at the bottom of the page.................that a 15% gratuity is included in the price of the drink. Prices I can confirm............$10.25 for an appletini.......$9.25 for Fosters.........$5.25 for Coors Light.........$6.25 other beers. Plus another $3.25 if you wanted a souvenir glass. :eek: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJL58 Posted May 16, 2009 #30 Share Posted May 16, 2009 A bloody mary on Liberty was $5.75(£3.80), a straight up Martini was $8.75 with a 20% disc at happy hour. Note from your post that 25ml measures on P.O but on Liberty they are poured and get at least 75ml measures. Certain pubs are 35ml in Spirits. Cokes and sodas $2.75 a can. Any more info will gladly provide. As Liz has remarked many U.K`s are lacking in "tipping culture" and I think RCL has to build it into the cruise fare, to "disguise" the service charge if it is to contiue to subsidise the crew salaries this way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dutchess43 Posted May 16, 2009 #31 Share Posted May 16, 2009 I just returned fron NOS Ta Ft.Lauderdale-Barcelona. I bought cigarettes for a friend I was told not only was the the price going up as soon as we departed from the ship on cigarettes but also all of the booze including mix drinks, & beers. I do not understand why the increases when their prices are high enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taffygirl Posted May 16, 2009 #32 Share Posted May 16, 2009 Hi, are the drinks on Princess ships as expensive as RCCL. Taffygirl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djmutters Posted May 16, 2009 #33 Share Posted May 16, 2009 These are the bar prices for P&O and there is no 15% tip to add. Surely if they can sell and make profits at these prices then RCCL can.Its all of us RCCL are ripping off no matter which country you are from or region yoiu are cruising P&O are a similar class of line to RCCL and cruise worldwide with these bar prices. Cocktails & Mixed Drinks Pimms No 1 - £2.70 Pimms Misty - £3.05 Pimms Rose - £3.50 Pimms Turbo - £4.35 Bacardi Daiquiri - £3.00 Brandy Crusta - £3.00 John Collins - £3.00 Tom Collins - £3.00 Whiskey Sour - £3.00 Dry Martini - £3.10 Kir Classique - £3.10 Screwdriver - £3.10 White Lady - £3.10 Grasshopper - £3.25 Manhattan - £3.25 Sunshine - £3.25 Surfboard - £3.25 Black Russian - £3.45 Brandy Alexander - £3.45 Negroni - £3.45 Rob Roy - £3.45 Sidecar - £3.45 Bloody Mary - £3.75 Blue Lagoon - £3.75 Chi Chi - £3.75 Moscow Mule - £3.75 Snowball - £3.75 Kir Royale - £4.30 Mai Tai - £4.30 Oriana Peach Royale - £4.30 Yellow Bird - £4.30 Bucks Fizz - £3.25 (125 ml glass) Champagne NV Moet & Chandon Brut Imperial NV Bottle - £34.50 1/2 Bottle _ £17.25 Glass (12.5cl)- £5.75 House Wine Californian Red, White, Blush Glass (12.5cl) - £1.95 Glass (17.5cl) - £2.55 Spritzer Glass - £1.90 Whiskey Bells, Famous Grouse - £2.00 De Luxe J Walker Black Label - £2.30 J Walker Red Label - £2.30 Chivas Regal - £2.30 Malt Glenfiddich - £2.30 De Luxe malts Laphroaig - £2.50 Scapa - £2.50 Glendronach - £2.50 Glenmorangie - £2.50 Boubon Jim Beam - £2.05 Canadian Canadian Club - £2.05 Irish Jameson - £2.05 Premium Bourbon Jack Daniels - £2.20 Gin Gordon's - £2.00 Premium Gin Bombay Sapphire - £2.20 Vodka Smirnoff - £2.05 Premium Vodka Absolut Red - £2.25 Stolichnaya - £2.50 Rum Bacardi Carta Blana - £1.90 Lamb's Navy - £1.90 Bacardi reserva - £2.05 Aperitifs/Madeira/Port/Sherry Cinzano - £2.00 Martini - £2.00 Campari - £2.00 Pernod - £2.00 Cognac - £2.00 Cognac V.S.O.P. - £2.55 Hine Antique - £4.25 Hennessy XO - £5.25 Remy Martin XO - £5.50 Calvados - £1.95 Armagnac - £2.30 Taylor's Vintage Port - £4.15 Liquers & Speciality Spirits Drambuie - £2.25 Baileys - £2.25 Cointreau - £2.25 Grand Marnier - £2.25 Tia maria _ £2.25 Archers - £2.25 Southern Confort - £2.25 Tequila - £2.25 Beers & Lagers Becks non-alcoholic 330ml - £1.85 Becks 330ml - £2.25 Grolsch 330ml - £2.25 Stella Artois 330ml - £2.25 Budweisser 33oml - £2.25 Ale & Bitter Bass Pale 330ml - £1.75 Boddington's Draught 440ml - £2.00 Caffrey's Irish Ale - £2.00 John Smiths Extra Smooth 440ml - £2.00 Newcastle Brown Ale 440ml - £2.00 Marstons Pedigree 500ml - £2.25 Guiness Draught Can 440ml - £2.30 Strongbow Cider 440ml - £2.00 Draught Bitter Pint - £2.25 Draught Lager Pint - £2.50 Bitter Shandy Pint - £2.15 Lager Shandy Pint - £2.40 Underberg Bitters - £0.60 Bacardi Breezer 275 ml - £2.50 all measures 25 millilitres Soft Drinks Orange juice 330ml - £1.35 Ginger Beer 330ml - £1.10 Fruit Juices 330ml - £1.20 Apple drinks 330ml - £1.35 Diet Sprite 330ml - £1.10 Diet Fanta 330 ml - £1.10 Cranberry Presse 250ml - £1.35 Elderflower Presse 250ml - £1.35 Perrier Sparkling 330ml - £1.30 Still Mineral Water 330ml - £0.95 Still & Sparkling 1 1/2 litre - £1.55 Coke 150ml - £0.75 Mixers 150ml - £0.75 Soda Water 250ml - £0.40 lemonade & Lime 250ml - £1.15 __________________ Even though we are not big drinkers you have just confirmed who we shall be booking our Baltics cruise with next year Thank-You Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peck Posted May 16, 2009 #34 Share Posted May 16, 2009 You can put whatever twist you like on it, P&O a pint of beer £2.60 (Stella Artois a premium brand) RCCL a pint of beer £5.00 (approx dollar equivalent for cheap jack Heiniken) Both lines must stock up in the UK, both should pay the same tax. Now tell me which line is profitering anyone! But at the end of the day I will put up with the price because I prefer RCCL's cruise. But reserve the right to complain here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJL58 Posted May 16, 2009 #35 Share Posted May 16, 2009 You can put whatever twist you like on it,P&O a pint of beer £2.60 (Stella Artois a premium brand) RCCL a pint of beer £5.00 (approx dollar equivalent for cheap jack Heiniken) Both lines must stock up in the UK, both should pay the same tax. Now tell me which line is profitering anyone! But at the end of the day I will put up with the price because I prefer RCCL's cruise. But reserve the right to complain here. Just curios but does P.O charge in £ or $ on seapass account................?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobal Posted May 16, 2009 #36 Share Posted May 16, 2009 P&O a pint of beer £2.60 (Stella Artois a premium brand). Stella Artois - a premium brand - :eek: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-494149/Where-did-wrong-beer-wife-beater.html Sorry! But I have to say the list posted by Peck has really opened my eyes to how much RCCL are hiking up the prices of alcohol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEPHEN LARKIN Posted May 16, 2009 Author #37 Share Posted May 16, 2009 :cool:Hi Guys , I started this post just out of curiosity , it has brought out some very strong reactions and views . As always I do agree with most of them . The common theme seems to be that R.C.I. are ripping us off with very high alcohol prices when departing from the UK compared to other cruise lines that have very much reduced bar prices than Royal Caribbean . Lets not get into a slagging match about how bad Royal Caribbean are because in actual fact they are a very good cruiseline . My aim is to let them see and indeed read these posts ( Because they do ! ) and show them the feeling of the people who cruise fron Southampton . The cost of a pint will not stop us from booking a uk based cruise but it does hurt our pocket . Having said all of the above , I will be on Indy next Saturday with a pint in my hand at every oppertunity but will also be on Fred Olsen`s Boudicca in one months time . Where upon it will cost me only £2.60 for a pint , that will be a much more relaxed and pleasurable cruise . Thankyou to everyone who has put their views forward so far and keep on posting as Royal Caribbean have to know how we all feel . Power to the people ... :cool::cool::cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uksimonusa Posted May 16, 2009 #38 Share Posted May 16, 2009 I understand that it is the case that VAT has to be charged when cruising in Europe and it is at an average rate of the European countries. This is EU regulations. It was definitely charged when we sailed Brilliance out of Barcelona and was at a rate of 16%. This may explain the higher costs of drinks as the VAT will have already been added, so the price charged includes this. Unlike in the US where the sales tax is added at the register, in Europe the price already includes tax. When we were last on FOS out of Miami, sales tax of 7% was added before we sailed into international waters. Has this been reduced to 6% now? .. Sorry My misquote, Florida state sales tax is 6%, this is what is charged at PC, I forgot that Miami Dade county, Miami, adds a 1% county surcharge to the Florida tax, so yes, you're right it is 7% in Miami Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GEORGET Posted May 17, 2009 #39 Share Posted May 17, 2009 Last September RCCL increased drink prices by up to 30% the prices on the fleet in the Med EUROPE and Baltic was increased, to those mentioned in this thread. I was informed it was fleet wide This was because of the Dollar doing so badly against these currencies. What has happened now that the dollar have improved the prices have remained high. The competitiors P&O NCL & CUNARD are now cheaper because they did not increase as much. Out of the Southampton port the RCCL prices include the usual 15% tip in the price. So the staff still get there tip! Example Draught beer Navigator/Brilliance $6.50 plus 15% TIP = $7.48 On the Independance out of UK $7.50 Lava Flow $9.00 Ultimate Cocktail $12.00 Mango Mai tai $7.50 Pyrat's Hurricane $11.00 Glass house wine $6 .35 these price include the auto 15% tip. To the British these prices are nearly twice what they pay at home or on P&O AND 50% more than Cunard. It has nothing to do with UK not tipping or VAT just the fact that RCCL does not realise that Brits love to drink but will not be riped off. If they reduced the drink price to there competitors they would run out and not lose repeaters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GEORGET Posted May 17, 2009 #40 Share Posted May 17, 2009 These are the bar prices for P&O and there is no 15% tip to add. Surely if they can sell and make profits at these prices then RCCL can.Its all of us RCCL are ripping off no matter which country you are from or region yoiu are cruising P&O are a similar class of line to RCCL and cruise worldwide with these bar prices. Thank you for this been waiting for reply to confirm these prices. A Cruise critic did not believe these prices and thought $10 a drink was usual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GEORGET Posted May 17, 2009 #41 Share Posted May 17, 2009 Just curios but does P.O charge in £ or $ on seapass account................?? Pounds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peteukmcr Posted May 17, 2009 #42 Share Posted May 17, 2009 .. Sorry My misquote, Florida state sales tax is 6%, this is what is charged at PC, I forgot that Miami Dade county, Miami, adds a 1% county surcharge to the Florida tax, so yes, you're right it is 7% in Miami Thanks for the clarification. I just thought that the rate may have been reduced in this economic climate, just like our VAT has been reduced from 17.5% to 15%. Not that 1% makes much difference on the price of a drink before we get into international waters! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antsp Posted May 17, 2009 #43 Share Posted May 17, 2009 There is uk vat on all drinks on ships out of and returnins to southhapton, the reason is the ships are staying within europe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peck Posted May 17, 2009 #44 Share Posted May 17, 2009 Since when have the Baltic States been in Europe. Stop make excuses for this continuing rip off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panhandle52 Posted May 17, 2009 #45 Share Posted May 17, 2009 Can someone please explain why the fountain soda package is 2 prices, 1 price for children and a higher price for adults? I am sure it is the same drink so why a different price? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peck Posted May 17, 2009 #46 Share Posted May 17, 2009 This is a quote from the Cruise Critic news page. Is Jo Rzymowska on this planet! Or just so out of touch with his UK customers. Come on bring down your drink prices in line with P&O. "Royal Caribbean which has just signed up Independence of the Seas to sail year-round from Southampton in 2010, also has confidence in Europe. Jo Rzymowska, general manager and associate vice president for Royal Caribbean Cruises Ltd. in the U.K. and Ireland, says, "U.K. cruisers who face the unfriendly rate of the pound against the euro are finding that the onboard dollar currency makes for an easier-to-swallow exchange rate, and so their holiday pound goes further. " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peck Posted May 17, 2009 #47 Share Posted May 17, 2009 This is a quote from the Cruise Critic news page. "Royal Caribbean which has just signed up Independence of the Seas to sail year-round from Southampton in 2010, also has confidence in Europe. Jo Rzymowska, general manager and associate vice president for Royal Caribbean Cruises Ltd. in the U.K. and Ireland, says, "U.K. cruisers who face the unfriendly rate of the pound against the euro are finding that the onboard dollar currency makes for an easier-to-swallow exchange rate, and so their holiday pound goes further. " Is Jo Rzymowska on this planet! Or just so out of touch with his customers. Come on bring down your drink prices in line with P&O. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elizanessie Posted May 17, 2009 #48 Share Posted May 17, 2009 There is uk vat on all drinks on ships out of and returnins to southhapton, the reason is the ships are staying within europe If that were so then why are the drink prices on Vision not increased as she leaves from UK port also...same with the Jewel. It appears at the moment that the Indy is only one that has the much higher drink prices when sailing from Southampton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare kernow Posted May 17, 2009 #49 Share Posted May 17, 2009 Last September RCCL increased drink prices by up to 30% the prices on the fleet in the Med EUROPE and Baltic was increased, to those mentioned in this thread. I was informed it was fleet wide This was because of the Dollar doing so badly against these currencies. What has happened now that the dollar have improved the prices have remained high. The competitiors P&O NCL & CUNARD are now cheaper because they did not increase as much. Out of the Southampton port the RCCL prices include the usual 15% tip in the price. So the staff still get there tip! Example Draught beer Navigator/Brilliance $6.50 plus 15% TIP = $7.48 On the Independance out of UK $7.50 Lava Flow $9.00 Ultimate Cocktail $12.00 Mango Mai tai $7.50 Pyrat's Hurricane $11.00 Glass house wine $6 .35 these price include the auto 15% tip. To the British these prices are nearly twice what they pay at home or on P&O AND 50% more than Cunard. It has nothing to do with UK not tipping or VAT just the fact that RCCL does not realise that Brits love to drink but will not be riped off. If they reduced the drink price to there competitors they would run out and not lose repeaters I have just found my receipts from Independence last August and I was charged the exact prices that you are quoting here, so they must have increased before September. Of course at that time we were getting 2 dollars for a pound so they didn't seem so expensive then! I've also noticed that different bars charged different prices, an Appletini in Boleros was $10, one in Olive or Twist was $10.25. In April an Appletini on Explorer was $9.20 with tip. As you say, on Independence a tip is included in the price. I don't think RCL will ever reduce their prices in line with the others. We've noticed before that they are also more expensive than the other US lines (apart from Celebrity who charge even more), however we prefer their ships so think its a price worth paying. Julie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GEORGET Posted May 17, 2009 #50 Share Posted May 17, 2009 JULIE You are right. prices increased after our 3rd of august 2008 cruise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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