yellowsnow Posted July 26, 2009 #1 Share Posted July 26, 2009 I just went on my first cruise on the Carnival Glory about a month ago, and now I can only think of taking another one. I have to make a trip to Colombia (I am Colombian, so that would probably make more sense to you now) to go to the dentist. It turns out it's a lot cheaper to travel and get stuff done there than doing it in the states without insurance. Anyway, I was thinking, since I also have the free time, I wouldn't mind paying a little bit extra and getting to Colombia in a cruise ship instead of a plane. I found a NCL ship that has a 14 day itinerary that docks in Cartagena, Colombia on the 12th day, which is perfect for me as I am going to Barranquilla, Colombia which is like two hours away and can have a relative come pick me up. The question is, can I do this? Obviously I'd notify the cruise line of my plans so they don't think I am lost or something, but since the itinerary originates and ends in the US, is there some type of penalty for not returning to the US in the boat? I'd be returning like 15 days later by plane. I assume it is a similar situation to when people miss their boat on a port day. Does anyone know anything about this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Travelcat2 Posted July 26, 2009 #2 Share Posted July 26, 2009 I have heard of many people who have done this. Suggest either calling your TA or the cruise line directly to find out the easiest way to accomplish this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aquahound Posted July 26, 2009 #3 Share Posted July 26, 2009 I believe this can be done. The problem is when you try to disembark in a U.S. port, other than the scheduled embark/disembark point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitty9 Posted July 26, 2009 #4 Share Posted July 26, 2009 You may be able to do this, but best to call the cruise line to find out the restrictions. Your only problem could be losing out on the cruise fare. They will not prorate your cruise and you'd have to pay for the entire trip and then lose the fare for the days you're not on board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ehfl Posted July 27, 2009 #5 Share Posted July 27, 2009 As long as you notify the cruise line, and clear it with the local authorities, it's fine. Remember, they can't keep you on board the ship against your will....that's Kidnapping! You can alway get off, except if you leave from a US port and are at another US port (in which case the US feds will go after you). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aquahound Posted July 27, 2009 #6 Share Posted July 27, 2009 You can alway get off, except if you leave from a US port and are at another US port (in which case the US feds will go after you). Well, not really. The cruise line is fined $350 for every person they disembark (knowingly or unknowingly) in another U.S. port. The fine is then passed on to the passenger from the cruise line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luannsimon Posted July 27, 2009 #7 Share Posted July 27, 2009 As long as you notify the cruise line, and clear it with the local authorities, it's fine. Remember, they can't keep you on board the ship against your will....that's Kidnapping! You can alway get off, except if you leave from a US port and are at another US port (in which case the US feds will go after you). Why can't you get off at a US port if you left from a US port? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gonzo70 Posted July 27, 2009 #8 Share Posted July 27, 2009 Why can't you get off at a US port if you left from a US port? There is a U.S. law prohibitting foreign flagged vessels from transporting people or cargo from one U.S. port directly to another U.S. port (i.e. to prevent competition with U.S. owned carriers). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luannsimon Posted July 27, 2009 #9 Share Posted July 27, 2009 There is a U.S. law prohibitting foreign flagged vessels from transporting people or cargo from one U.S. port directly to another U.S. port (i.e. to prevent competition with U.S. owned carriers). What cruise line has US owned cruise ships? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitty9 Posted July 27, 2009 #10 Share Posted July 27, 2009 What cruise line has US owned cruise ships? There's only one, NCL's ship that sail's Hawaii. Every other cruise ship is foreign flagged to avoid US laws. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ehfl Posted July 27, 2009 #11 Share Posted July 27, 2009 Well, not really. The cruise line is fined $350 for every person they disembark (knowingly or unknowingly) in another U.S. port. The fine is then passed on to the passenger from the cruise line. That's basically what I said...the federal government will go after the cruise line for the money, which will come after you for the money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ehfl Posted July 27, 2009 #12 Share Posted July 27, 2009 Why can't you get off at a US port if you left from a US port? Because of protectionist legislation. The intent was to promote US shipbuilders. Of course, the actual result, is just the opposite...no cruise ships are built in the US. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aunty Pat Posted July 27, 2009 #13 Share Posted July 27, 2009 Cruise West has US flagged ships that sail between US ports in Alaska, to the California wine country from San Francisco and on the Columbia River. Aunty Pat Barefoot Windjammer - Phantom ‘81 K&D German Rhine Line ‘84 NCL - Norway ’85, Pride of America ’05, Southward ’87, Star ’97 & ‘05, Starward ’92, Sun ’02 & Windward ’93 RCC - Song of America ‘89 American Hawaiian - Independence ‘98 HAL - Volendam ’99, Noordam ’06, Oosterdam ’07 & ‘09, Statendam ’02 & ‘08, Prinsendam ’03 & ’06, & Zuiderdam ’04, ’06 & ‘07 Carnival - Spirit ‘05 Celebrity – Summit ‘05 Cruise West - Yorktown Clipper ‘06 Princess - Golden Princess ‘07 A & K - East Queen ‘07 Cunard - QM2 ’08 Pending Cruises: HAL – Westerdam, September 6, 2009 Oceania – Insignia, June 17, 2010 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poisonangel514@aol.com Posted July 28, 2009 #14 Share Posted July 28, 2009 So if I went on a cruise that started in Miami, stopped in the Bahamas and Key West, I couldn't get off in Key West? I'm not planing on it just curious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K&RCurt Posted July 28, 2009 #15 Share Posted July 28, 2009 So if I went on a cruise that started in Miami, stopped in the Bahamas and Key West, I couldn't get off in Key West? I'm not planing on it just curious. You would have to reimburse the cruise line for the fine. To the OP: On our first cruise a couple at our dinner table were from the UK. They had sold their business, and just about all their other possesions, and disembarked at Tortola, BVI to start their retirement early! They were planning to open a beach bar/ restaraunt. They simply informed the cruise line ahead of time and it was no issue. They, of course, had to carry all of their luggage off the ship themselves, but that's a small price to pay IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceMuzz Posted July 28, 2009 #16 Share Posted July 28, 2009 Leaving a ship mid-cruise is not as simple as some would think. The cruise line rarely cares, but the country you are planning on entering just might. When you visit most foreign countries on a cruise ship, the cruise line makes an agreement with local immigration officials to grant you a temporary visa to enter that country. This visa is valid so long as the cruise ship is on port. If the cruise ship departs and you are not aboard, you are an illegal alien - unless you have made arrangements for a valid tourist visa for that country. Most of the time, if you tell the cruise line that you want/need to disembark before the end of the cruise, they can assist you in getting the proper visa. But there are exceptions to that idea as well. Some ports are too small to have immigration officers. No officers = no clearance = no permission to stay ashore. A good example is Newport Rhode Island. Many cruise ships stop there on their Canada / New England cruises. Newport has no US Immigration Office. If a non-US passenger or crewmember wants to permanently disembark the ship there, it cannot be done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hubofhockey Posted July 28, 2009 #17 Share Posted July 28, 2009 I think it was a year ago where I saw Carnival advertising in St Thomas for cruises. Do they let some passengers originate cruises from there or do they require people in St Thomas to fly to Florida? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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