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For Explora, I'm going to continue to sit on the sideline and wait things out. Maybe in a few years when both of my kids and the brand are a bit older....

As far as I know, they are basically identical. The entrance door to the courtyard splits the area between those 2 staterooms but the door is closer to 17712. The door doesn't slam so that shouldn't be an issue.

How much of a price difference would getting 2 connecting Oceanview (OF) or 2 connecting Oceanview w/bigger window (OB) staterooms be?

YC vs YC for Seaside vs Seascape basically boils down to.... Seaside sundeck has 2 hot tubs in the front while Seascape has one large hot tub in front and another large hot tub on the starboard side. Seaside has cabanas while Seascape has pergolas that have a covered roof. Seaside pool is one depth while Seascape has a shallower end and a deeper end. Seascape has more pergolas than Seaside has cabanas but Seascape's pergolas are first come/first serve for the non-reserved ones. Seaside (I think) still rents non-reserved cabanas. Seascape's YC sundeck is larger than Seaside's YC sundeck. Seascape has 1 more deck of Yacht Club staterooms than Seaside so there are more YC guests on Seascape. The restaurant is roughly the same size for both but the different sizes/shapes of tables helps to allow most YC guests to avoid a wait for a table in both cases. Seascape has more stateroom choices such as the Owner's Suites and the Deluxe Grand Suites which aren't on Seaside. There are differences outside of the Yacht Club as Seashore/Seascape are EVOlved compared to Seaside/Seaview. They are all close enough to be familiar but the newer/larger ships are an improvement compared to the first two ships.

The app/website can be wonky. You can try to call or wait until you are on the ship (maybe using OBC).

The voucher that she receives for her status has different terms than the SDP.... "This benefit offers two dinners for two at a specialty restaurant for Platinum, Sapphire, Diamond, and Ambassador guests." ...so the friend can bring one of you twice while the 3rd wheel can just buy a 2SDP.

Husband should be able to make the change without penalty since his original name/guest number isn't changing. The phone rep might try and tell him that there is a fee or (even worse) might try to make it a cancel/rebook. If the rep gives him a hard time, your plan B of just adding a 2SDP for the teen will work smoothly.

Sail Length # Of Dining Package Meals Retail Value 20% Gratuities 3-6 Nights 1 Meal / Any Stateroom $59.00 per person $11.80 per package 7-11 Nights 1 Meal / Studio, Inside, Oceanview $59.00per person $11.80 per package 7-11 Nights 2 Meals / Balcony & Above $99.00per person $19.80 per package 12+ Nights 2 Meals / Studio, Inside, Oceanview $99.00per person $19.80 per package 12+ Nights 3 Meals / Balcony & Above $139.00per person $27.80 per package The number of meals per person can change depending on length of cruise and booked category.

Technically, you could be charged but realistically, the restaurant will probably ring up 4SDP meals + complimentary fries for both restaurants. Is it too late to make the older child as guest #2?

No, not needed. There are plenty of loungers and umbrellas on the beach. My family and I get one but most YC guests have no real desire for one. The cabanas don't always sell out. I've never used them but if a Yacht Club guest wants them, it'll get done. The pink floating mats are there for guest use.

Beach front is a straight walk to the ocean. In the photo, the cabanas are on the right. If facing the ocean, they are on the right side of Ocean House.

Adding a 2nd ship would be difficult. Things to consider like the current, underwater topography, environmental impact, etc. would be in addition to cost. Anything is possible when you consider the "before" and "after" of what they've done so far. Some of the rumors as far as what they have planned for the next few years are interesting. Some would love for the rumors to be true and some would hate for the rumors to be true.

I've done the smaller and the larger Sea**** ships and I've not experienced any of what you've described. I've sailed in summer and over Christmas/New Year's (full sailings) and never had to wait to sit and eat. Elevator waits can be a problem even for YC guests so I'd like to see an improvement to the elevator hijack system. We aren't 100% sure if changes will be made to Ocean House during the closure. Time will tell and I'll see for myself if World America YC is too much for the area...but I've already booked my cabana, just in case...😉

If you have any questions or concerns when comparing Yacht Club to Haven, feel free to ask. I've sailed Seashore out of Miami and out of Port Canaveral. 99% of Seascape info applies to Seashore so most Seascape reviews could also be helpful. Seaside/Seaview are a bit different than the 2 larger Sea***** ships but some of the Yacht Club info could help.

Does anyone know why the other....never mind. 🤐

Maybe NCL will start to proof-read their material when more guests start to actually read and understand the terms and conditions that they agree to. 😉

I've used an umbrella-type stroller with a 2 year-old and it was no problem on or off of the ship.

I'm not (currently) having any issues with any browser but most recently, trying Firefox worked when Chrome didn't. I regularly use both so it wasn't a big deal to try another one. I rarely use Safari but that's also an option. Photo and card registration is regularly problematic so I never bother. I just do both on embarkation day. The passport info usually works. One time, my expired passport information auto-filled and I didn't notice that it was the wrong one. I was able to get it fixed but it took some work.

Are you logged in with booking number or with MSC account?

All three would be better off if every individual decided for themselves what was right for them instead of worrying about what is right for others.

Just for clarification, the DSC can be adjusted/removed but the 20% gratuity/service charge on packages or individual meals/drinks cannot be removed as far as I know.

In many cases, NCL will use the same photo/rendering for different categories. Some categories have different configurations but NCL will use 1 photo/rendering to represent both. Joy seems to have more "issues" with deck plan inaccuracy than the other NCL ships. Nearly all of them have errors but Joy (because of so many changes and unique features) has the most.

Changing the hull art would also be nice. 😁 While they're at it, the feminine hygiene chandelier could also be replaced.

I think that it is more of a timing issue. The Haven restaurant can handle all Haven guests but cannot handle all Haven guests at the same time. During the course of a week, some will dine early, some in the middle, and some later. On the first night, there might be a rush of people that arrive early since there's usually nothing else to do or people haven't found ways to occupy themselves with other things. I've never been offered a specialty restaurant at dinner but even if it's an offer, anyone can always decline the offer and wait for the Haven restaurant.

It takes at least TWO (no pun intended) for it to continue. Is it your pride that causes you to continue posting or is it only mine? Because that is the subject. If the topic was NBA fouls and someone responded with "...in the NFL, you can...", it wouldn't make sense then, either. Your words were "...we really don't need you telling everyone else with another take (including myself and the OP)..." so in what way should that be interpreted? You can express your opinion a million times and even if I disagree, I wouldn't try to prevent or dissuade you from posting. You can post what you want. I will do the same. If you don't want to continue having your points refuted, don't post. It's up to you. If you want, refute mine. It doesn't bother me. On that, we can agree.