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There are two different discussions going on. The question was are suites available with a cruise only rate, which the answer to that question is no. The other discussion about an error isn't really related - however anyone in a suite as a result of a MoveUp bid would have classic drinks and basic Wifi unless they upgraded separately.

There is no such thing as a partial charter. It's a group booked under the usual rates or a full ship charter. No in-between. Full ship charter clients customize what they want to include or resale.

Eh, yes. There are group rates and discounted group rates. Two different things. To get the cruise only fare you would have to book the cruise on your own via Celebrity then transfer to an agent willing to add it to a group.

There are no suite rates that do not include drinks, Wifi and gratuities. It's totally normal for the TA to offer additional OBC. And before someone says it, they are not "sharing their commission". There are a number of offers from Celebrity that are specific to TA's that include extra OBC.

It’s a legal issue. There are all sorts of privacy laws, specific laws that pertain to children’s personal information, state specific laws, the need to be able to accept T&C’s, etc.

This isn't necessarily true for all circumstances or even for all tickets with this airline.I would not put any faith in what the FBC phone agents say. This sounds like one of two things. Either your flight is not ticketed yet which is likely since you are outside of final payment, or you have a fare like a Basic Economy fare that doesn't allow you to check in or select seats. From the Vueling website: If you choose the Basic Fare and don't add seat selection to your booking, you won’t have instant online check-in included. What does that mean? Will you have to pay to do it? No, it just means that you’ll have to wait until 7 days or 24 hours before the departure of your flight (check it at check-in) to check in online at no extra cost. Then you’ll be able to access your booking to check in online: you’ll be allocated random seats without having to pay extra, and you’ll get your boarding passes.

Prime Verandas are on deck 6 through 9. Concierge is on 9 through 12 so there is no way you would be any lower than deck 9. There are no Concierge cabins classed as an obstruction although you may prefer some locations over others. But that risk is of course why it is priced lower as a GTY. That sailing is teetering on sold out so whatever you do I would make a decision quickly.

They aren’t confused. You can tell by your rate outlined on your invoice. There aren’t ‘various tiers’. You either get Celebrity’s price by booking directly or you get a group rate the TA has secured. You can call around any decent volume agent and they can steer you in the right direction.

Short answer….yes. Almost all of them do. Although Celebrity’s program is one of the best IMO. This article is overly vague but it sort of explains how it works in general terms. https://www.cruisecritic.com/articles/secret-agent-deals-how-to-find-prices-cruise-lines-dont-offer

The long Caribbean (10 and 11 day) cruises on Beyond are looking like the best sellers for the Caribbean winter 2023-2024 season. I would not be surprised if many of those itineraries sell out fairly soon. If you are looking for a cheaper option on another ship I would keep an eye on the 3/14/24 Equinox 9 night ABC or the 3/25/24 Silhouette 10 night Southern Caribbean.

You aren't taking demand into consideration. In 2003 there were 12 million global cruise passengers, that number has since grown to almost 30 million in 2019 and projected at 39.5 million by 2027. Edge 1 was ordered in December 2014 only 28 months after Reflection was launched. It's pretty much a given the wheels are in motion for the next class. No. It's the same as Beyond. 163 Aqua, 299 Concierge, 570 in the other IV categories for a total of 1,032. Edge has 918, Apex has 926.

This is all CLIA cruise lines - again not Celebrity specific but with longer cruises I doubt there is any substantial difference in the overall age. Celebrity does say for the Caribbean specficially 75% are 60+ on long (8 night or more) sailings.

The financials are all RCG brands. They do not report brand by brand. The other graphs are CLIA member cruise lines. Point being, the passengers and the cruise days are largely spent in the Caribbean on seven night cruises by mostly North Americans. For Celebrity I only have insight to Caribbean info: New to cruise/new to brand is 50% on 7 nights, 35% on long and 66% on short. Loyalty is 49% on 7 nights, 67% on long, 34% on short. Average age 60+ is 51% on 7 night, 75% on long, 37% on short. Traveling w/ family is 10% on 7 night, 3% on long, 14% on short. Roughly even split on boomer/silent gen and everyone younger on 7 night cruises, almost 80% boomer/silent gen on long Caribbean. Short Caribbean has a fairly similar generational breakdown. The largest market for Caribbean cruises is still South Florida (Orlando south) with New York City in the top 5 for 7 night and short Caribbean.

They aren't going to release profitability by sailing. But you can see revenue by geographic region. For RCG as a whole Europe and Asia combined aren't even close to Caribbean revenue. There are still two E class ships in Europe next summer and two S class ships.

I gave you solid data. Actual data from Celebrity. No speculation. Short Caribbean cruises and 7 day Caribbean are where the money is and where the people are. If long cruises were the money makers, why do they not sell them? It's obvious.

They do not release those figures but the writing is on the wall. The longest European cruise for next summer and 12 day. There have been no 14 day Caribbean cruises in several years. Similar to the Caribbean numbers, long cruisers have older more experienced passengers who don't spend as much and book much earlier. There are very few cruises longer than 12 days anywhere in the world and that is done purposefully.

Very simple. Money and market share. Why did they first move Equinox year round Caribbean in summer of 2017? Follow the $$$. Edge class ships generate a lot of buzz. This puts access to an E class in all major markets of the cruising world. Northern Europe, Mediterranean, Caribbean and Alaska as well as Australia. This allows two different customer types to enter the Caribbean market in the summer. Short Caribbean cruisers are typically new. 66% are new to the brand or new to cruising and 34% have Celebrity loyalty. 7 night cruises are 49% new to brand or new to cruising and similarly, roughly half have Celebrity loyalty. As far as families with kids, 10% travel with kids on a 7 night cruise, 14% on a Short Caribbean, and 3% on Long Caribbean. On Short and 7 night Caribbean cruise, just shy of 50% are now younger than Boomers+. That share continues to grow as Boomers and the Silent Gen no longer cruise. There are new markets that needs tapped and the number one way to do that is with ships people are excited about and with short cruises. They are trying to make a muddy distinction between cruising with kids and cruising for kids and outright encouraging those who are cruising for their kids to remain focused on Royal Caribbean. These are the one where the kids are the number one consideration and the parents are going despite it not being their ideal vacation. The cruise with kids group are those that want to cruise but entertaining the kids is not the priority. They may cruise for the ports, for the food, etc. but are dragging the kids along anyway. I'm honestly not sure how to market this differentiation effectively but we will see. The window in which people are booking is also shifting. The number of bookings made <6 months from the sail date has increased significantly. 77% of pax on 3-4 night cruises book the cruise within 6 months of the sail date whereas 50% of the pax on a Long Caribbean book within 6 months of sailing. This may be due to multiple thing like people's resistance to book cruises 18-24 months ago when COVID was still a big concern. US citizens are much more likely to book Caribbean on short notice than Europe. And as the rule typically goes, shorter lead time means higher prices.

The kettlebell collection is small. It's pictured in several YouTube videos. Looks like it only goes up to maybe 12kg. No proper pull up bar. There are a few lat/back pulldown machines. You might be able to use the smith machine if you're shorter. Otherwise you may hit your head on the ceiling. You can log in to your Peloton account. You do need a reservation. Apparently reservations take priority so they will ask that someone without a reservation gets off if they are using it at your time slot.

Ohh a good dress code debate. Celebrity was listening and decided to clear it up?

It will look just like this: There is a second corridor that leads to the suite that contains the door to the suite and the door to the connecting cabin. They are really quiet. We've been in an end S3 (8220 I believe) and were really happy with the setup.

It's just quirky because of the sailing dates. You're the second cruise after the TA which is followed by an 8 day, then an 12 day, then a 9 day before getting into the normal 10 and 11 day rotation. I would bet all of the menus for those for 3 cruises after the TA are not completely firmed up.

That may be tough, if not impossible, to find since so few people travel with a 3rd or 4th in a suite. It's really not going to look that much different than balcony cabin setup in the same way.

Already posting 107 inbound cancelations and 14% of remaining inbound flights being delayed.

Youre not going to see much variety in Caribbean summer season. I’m almost positive summer 2019 was limited to alternating 7 night eastern and western routes. Prior to 2017 there were no summer Caribbean sailings at all. 2021 was an oddity with the restart. To keep turnarounds on the weekend the 7/7 or 6/8 rotation is really all that works.

This gets posted a lot and it is not true. TA’s do not hold specific cabins. Any group space that they held but did not sell is turned back over to the cruise line far in advance of the sail date. If you are two weeks from sailing and a cabin is showing unavailable…it’s booked.