Last post on the topic from me. What I am saying is Carnival was the value option in the equation, which meant their prices were slightly lower than their equivalent competition. That is not the case anymore. Of course they charge what the market will bear. That said, nothing has changed (from a cruising comparison perspective) and they are clearly NOT the price leader. They could have done that at any time in the past and did not, we could discuss the whys or why nots but that is a different discussion. What I am really referring to is all the ancillary items that they are choosing significantly more for. While I cannot argue that basic economics play a factor here, it is clear from a historical basis that the company is doing things significantly different than they did in the past. You feel the reason for this is irrelevant, which is fine. I fell strongly it is, we can agree to disagree. The driver for all this is to answer to the stockholders, as it was, is now and will always be.