jimbo5544

LOL, not sure what other reason it could be…unless they are selling chicken to people in thoise lines…..😱

Last post on the topic from me. What I am saying is Carnival was the value option in the equation, which meant their prices were slightly lower than their equivalent competition. That is not the case anymore. Of course they charge what the market will bear. That said, nothing has changed (from a cruising comparison perspective) and they are clearly NOT the price leader. They could have done that at any time in the past and did not, we could discuss the whys or why nots but that is a different discussion. What I am really referring to is all the ancillary items that they are choosing significantly more for. While I cannot argue that basic economics play a factor here, it is clear from a historical basis that the company is doing things significantly different than they did in the past. You feel the reason for this is irrelevant, which is fine. I fell strongly it is, we can agree to disagree. The driver for all this is to answer to the stockholders, as it was, is now and will always be.

I cannot argue with your assessment, but those lines….do make a statement.

LOL, interesting problem.

History says otherwise. That must be a irrelevant fact, I will move on.

As it always does on pricing, and in a stock company, they respond to one entity, the stockholder. That said, it is not an exclusivity. Other factors have (in this case significant) implications.

I would totally disagree with your last point. History is the best example to that. Would they higher than they were…sure. Are they inflated due to their financial situation….100% they are.

LOL, trying to think of a reply where I can use the operative word twice in a small sentence. We can agree on the second sentence. Again, if price is the reason you do it, then go land. Pricing for cruising will come down as demand comes down.

Don’t get me going on airlines and loyalty. Delta threw me out with the trash.

But the swim to get there is so tiring….

Along for the ride as well.

Need a vacation from your vacation?

Heard they will be setting up tents in the lobby area and telling you get there 24 hours before.

First of all Carnival Corp is not bankrupt, so that analogy does not work. Next, the plan that Carnival Corp and CCL have to get out of the financial situation they are in (all COVID related) is working well beyond expectations. They have paid off more than 6 BILLION in one year, quite commendable in fact. Cruise rates are tied to pent up demand from cruisers who have not sailed in years due to above said problem, obviously higher with all the demand. Macro 101 in college. On that we agree. IF you think there are not factors in their pricing tied to the financial situation noted, you are…..wrong. Simply a fact.

While I am not sure, I believe the way that air tags work is to utilize signals not just from your phone but others. That said, in most situations, there will be enough on to reflect signals in most places on the ship.

Don’t you love those that leave the balcony lights on all night…..

We are considering trying HAL, have a good friend that used to work for CCL that now works for them and ahs been trying to get us to try it. Was just looking at last night.,

We are up north visiting family and we took two grand kids to Micky D for lunch (yuck) and the bill was fifty bucks…..

Did I suggest you were the problem? Facts are facts regardless of whom is to blame. If you think that the exposure (financially speaking) was the same as the cruise industry, the conversation should go no further. We could do the math, but we know the cruise industry was multi fold worse and that the start up dramatically harder, but as you said, it is not your problem. If you think you get a better deal (and that is the important arbiter for you) then go land, easy peasey.

Land resorts in the Caribbean were not 30 billion in the hole either.

Looks about right timing wise. I know there is something scheduled for August. Welcome back.

The wording is very interesting. While we have absolutely no insight into the inner working of the beards, especially in this case, there is def aa market there and they will not walk away from. That does not mean a swap or movement is not in the future. The first indication would be when they announce 26 dates and sailing later this year.

Each

True, but they did not cost 2.3 BILLION

The new ugly is not only NCL, I think the last two behemoth blunder of the seas take that title.