kerrytens Posted February 14, 2010 #26 Share Posted February 14, 2010 Man, I shall NEVER pick another Carnival ship to travel on again - they break! Just kidding really but I was on the Destiny at her worst and now, I was seriously looking at the Legend. Ugh, me = jinx! ;) So sorry to those affected today! I do hope the engineers can get her fixed permanently (gee, wonder if Carnival will act quickly with this one??). Safe travels folks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waldocruiser1 Posted February 14, 2010 #27 Share Posted February 14, 2010 that distance is "air" miles, the legend is a seagoing vessel http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/distanceresult.html%3Fp1=410&p2=173 What do you mean, it is not going to FLY? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveaaaaa Posted February 14, 2010 #28 Share Posted February 14, 2010 that distance is "air" miles, the legend is a seagoing vessel http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/distanceresult.html%3Fp1=410&p2=173 So the following results are listing nautical miles but they are really air miles?:rolleyes: Steve Distance from Tampa to Key West Distance is 386 kilometers or 240 miles or 208 nautical miles Distance from Tampa to Nassau Distance is 619 kilometers or 385 miles or 334 nautical miles Distance from Tampa to Cozumel Distance is 935 kilometers or 581 miles or 505 nautical miles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveaaaaa Posted February 14, 2010 #29 Share Posted February 14, 2010 Steve, Pretty hard to fly the ship to Nassau. Sea miles, its much farther. Way south almost to Cuba, east across the width of Florida, north to north of Miami and then east and south to Nassau. More than 2 X the air miles.. So the following means what then? What does Nautical miles mean as shown below?Are they just converting the air to nautical?:confused: Steve Distance from Tampa to Cozumel Distance is 935 kilometers or 581 miles or 505 nautical miles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lillian marie Posted February 14, 2010 #30 Share Posted February 14, 2010 On the Holiday last fall at one point they had to close the back deck because sparks were flying out of the smoke stacks and black greasy looking smoke. At the buffet later a man who said he was a ship mechanic in Mobile said the movement that we could feel in the deck floor meant the engines weren't firing properly. CCL flew in engine mechanics and in the Bahamas the ship was full of guys in coveralls who worked for a local ship repair company. It was fixed and we got back to Mobile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrPete Posted February 14, 2010 #31 Share Posted February 14, 2010 Nassau is 334 Nautical miles and Coz is 505. Key west is 208 Steve Um. There's something called Florida in the way o' dat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JKJG3 Posted February 14, 2010 #32 Share Posted February 14, 2010 Anyone with any information please keep us all informed... I'm supposed to be getting on the Legend 2 weeks from today! This is our first cruise; and we sure don't want a slow ship that isn't going to the ports we planned for! Here's hoping it works out for the folks this week and gets fixed soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beltane Posted February 14, 2010 #33 Share Posted February 14, 2010 I'm typing this FROM the Legend... and it's broken for sure! We've been cruising at 9 knots for the past day. They have announced to us this morning not to expect to get off the ship until 3:30, and non-US citizens until 4:30 p.m.! They really haven't told us what's up... but clearly the engine isn't working. Most of us will miss our flights and so far Carnival is only offering us $200 in compensation to try to find a new flight out of here. Nobody is happy with that. The only later flight I have been able to find is $460 MORE than what I have already paid for my return ticket. So who knows how much money cruisers are losing on this! We are NOT happy that is for sure! There are lines for using the phones to call airlines, lines to use computers to try to find flights. I'm one of the fortunate ones who has a laptop... desperate cruisers have been begging to use my laptop, and others, to contact home to let their family know they are stuck on a ship in the gulf. We are doing what we can. The Cruise Director Jen just keeps coming on the overhead system encouraging us to spend our money in the gift shops and in the casino. Ya, that's a big help. Not sure what the next cruisers can expect this afternoon.... whether this thing will be sea-ready for tonight? I wouldn't bet on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ugh07 Posted February 14, 2010 #34 Share Posted February 14, 2010 So the following results are listing nautical miles but they are really air miles?:rolleyes:Steve Distance from Tampa to Key West Distance is 386 kilometers or 240 miles or 208 nautical miles Distance from Tampa to Nassau Distance is 619 kilometers or 385 miles or 334 nautical miles Distance from Tampa to Cozumel Distance is 935 kilometers or 581 miles or 505 nautical miles you are the one choosing to quote nautical miles, the link is stating the distance in km OR mi OR nm...the map clearly shows that the distance they are using is a straight shot or what they call air miles....wait, you didnt think that a nautical mile was something other than a unit of measure did you? you speak as if when something is listed in nautical miles that means distance by boat, you couldnt possible think that right?:rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrPete Posted February 14, 2010 #35 Share Posted February 14, 2010 I'm typing this FROM the Legend... and it's broken for sure! We've been cruising at 9 knots for the past day. They have announced to us this morning not to expect to get off the ship until 3:30, and non-US citizens until 4:30 p.m.! They really haven't told us what's up... but clearly the engine isn't working. Most of us will miss our flights and so far Carnival is only offering us $200 in compensation to try to find a new flight out of here. Nobody is happy with that. The only later flight I have been able to find is $460 MORE than what I have already paid for my return ticket. So who knows how much money cruisers are losing on this! We are NOT happy that is for sure! There are lines for using the phones to call airlines, lines to use computers to try to find flights. I'm one of the fortunate ones who has a laptop... desperate cruisers have been begging to use my laptop, and others, to contact home to let their family know they are stuck on a ship in the gulf. We are doing what we can. The Cruise Director Jen just keeps coming on the overhead system encouraging us to spend our money in the gift shops and in the casino. Ya, that's a big help. Not sure what the next cruisers can expect this afternoon.... whether this thing will be sea-ready for tonight? I wouldn't bet on it. I'm reminded when the same exact thing happened in Tampa for the Miracle (thank God I told my cousin I didn't want to sail on that ship again). They didn't even get on board until midnight!!!!! Good luck in your efforts to get home. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan40 Posted February 14, 2010 #36 Share Posted February 14, 2010 So the following means what then? What does Nautical miles mean as shown below?Are they just converting the air to nautical?:confused: Steve Distance from Tampa to Cozumel Distance is 935 kilometers or 581 miles or 505 nautical miles Rudimentary my dear Steven. Re-read your own source. You will see it says AIR MILES. Air miles may be stated in Nautical miles, US miles, or kilometers. If you would CLOSELY examine your own given source, you will find a map showing the distance from Tampa to Nassau as a straight line directly across the Florida peninsula. Not even using the intercoastal and the St. Lucie Waterway could a ship do that. And there could just as well be a shipping route across the Gulf that would make the distance for a ship a bit longer than the air miles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Carnival Posted February 14, 2010 #37 Share Posted February 14, 2010 I'm typing this FROM the Legend... and it's broken for sure! We've been cruising at 9 knots for the past day. They have announced to us this morning not to expect to get off the ship until 3:30, and non-US citizens until 4:30 p.m.! Not sure what the next cruisers can expect this afternoon.... whether this thing will be sea-ready for tonight? I wouldn't bet on it. I agree, sounds like a MAJOR drydock overhaul. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maggieworkman Posted February 14, 2010 #38 Share Posted February 14, 2010 Oh man. I hope they fix her before our cruise in June!!! We were really looking forward to Belize and Roatan! I guess I will keep in mind some backups in case we go to other ports. Best of luck to those cruising out today and the next couple of weeks. My heart is with you!!!! Maggie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carnival Platinum Cruiser Posted February 14, 2010 #39 Share Posted February 14, 2010 I'm typing this FROM the Legend... and it's broken for sure! We've been cruising at 9 knots for the past day. They have announced to us this morning not to expect to get off the ship until 3:30, and non-US citizens until 4:30 p.m.! They really haven't told us what's up... but clearly the engine isn't working. Most of us will miss our flights and so far Carnival is only offering us $200 in compensation to try to find a new flight out of here. Nobody is happy with that. The only later flight I have been able to find is $460 MORE than what I have already paid for my return ticket. So who knows how much money cruisers are losing on this! We are NOT happy that is for sure! There are lines for using the phones to call airlines, lines to use computers to try to find flights. I'm one of the fortunate ones who has a laptop... desperate cruisers have been begging to use my laptop, and others, to contact home to let their family know they are stuck on a ship in the gulf. We are doing what we can. The Cruise Director Jen just keeps coming on the overhead system encouraging us to spend our money in the gift shops and in the casino. Ya, that's a big help. Not sure what the next cruisers can expect this afternoon.... whether this thing will be sea-ready for tonight? I wouldn't bet on it. Well that is $200 more than what we were offered on a Glory cruise a year ago. I guess that is what insurance is for and glad we had it. As far as hawking sales by the CD when everyone is trying to make flight changes etc...... That reeks of Carnival. Grab every $$ they can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LHP Posted February 14, 2010 #40 Share Posted February 14, 2010 I'm typing this FROM the Legend... and it's broken for sure! We've been cruising at 9 knots for the past day. They have announced to us this morning not to expect to get off the ship until 3:30, and non-US citizens until 4:30 p.m.! They really haven't told us what's up... but clearly the engine isn't working. Most of us will miss our flights and so far Carnival is only offering us $200 in compensation to try to find a new flight out of here. Nobody is happy with that. The only later flight I have been able to find is $460 MORE than what I have already paid for my return ticket. So who knows how much money cruisers are losing on this! We are NOT happy that is for sure! There are lines for using the phones to call airlines, lines to use computers to try to find flights. I'm one of the fortunate ones who has a laptop... desperate cruisers have been begging to use my laptop, and others, to contact home to let their family know they are stuck on a ship in the gulf. We are doing what we can. The Cruise Director Jen just keeps coming on the overhead system encouraging us to spend our money in the gift shops and in the casino. Ya, that's a big help. Not sure what the next cruisers can expect this afternoon.... whether this thing will be sea-ready for tonight? I wouldn't bet on it. I would expect that Carnival stated the $200 ($100 per person) because this is usually all that the airlines charge as a change fee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marshhawk Posted February 14, 2010 #41 Share Posted February 14, 2010 Got off the Legend last Sunday. Some one told me at that time the stabilizers were not working. BUT! I have also read on this site, that the stabilizers slow down the efficiency of the ship, and the speed of the ship. And with Disney stuck down in the Bahamas due to gale force wind,,,,,maybe those stabilizers are trying to work overtime. My best to anyone sailing out on her today. I loved our trip, but we did not dock in Mahogany Bay either, and I had no back up:mad:. So look over other port options, and other excursions options here. Lesson learned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
conchead Posted February 14, 2010 #42 Share Posted February 14, 2010 Nassau is 334 Nautical miles and Coz is 505. Key west is 208 Steve Sorry, but that is not quite right. That website gives straight line mileage. ;) Sailing miles would be much different Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
albycruisin Posted February 14, 2010 Author #43 Share Posted February 14, 2010 I got a text from my friend that was sent at 11:56 that says they are in the channel now and expect to dock at 3:00pm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waldocruiser1 Posted February 14, 2010 #44 Share Posted February 14, 2010 Looking at http://www.marinetraffic.com/ais/ it looks like a tug is pushing or pulling her home. but they are going 12 k Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chadci Posted February 14, 2010 #45 Share Posted February 14, 2010 What's the SOP for Cruise ship troubles of this nature? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWolver672 Posted February 14, 2010 #46 Share Posted February 14, 2010 At the first port on our Glory cruise in 2005, we were late leaving Nassau. We were told that we had engine problems and that we would not go to St. Thomas or St. Maarten. We instead went to Freeport and Key West. On the way back, we slowed almost to a complete stop and waited near Miami for parts to be brought to the ship. We made it back to Port Canaveral on time. We stayed that day in Port Canaveral and saw the Glory leave on time that afternoon. So it does happen that they can fix it and stay on schedule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PTN96 Posted February 14, 2010 #47 Share Posted February 14, 2010 Fantastic! Just booked the Legend for Spring Break cruise in 5 weeks. This is making a little nervous. We have cruised before but only on Disney (4) and Princess (1). Looks like Disney had some issued this weekend too. We always purchase trip insurance but have no idea how it really works. We usually drive 10 hours to the port. I sure hope the Legend gets fixed! Mindi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yst347 Posted February 14, 2010 #48 Share Posted February 14, 2010 Aircraft measure travel distance in nautical miles and air speed in knots. http://www.ehow.com/facts_5730573_air-miles-vs_-land-miles.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curlydog Posted February 14, 2010 #49 Share Posted February 14, 2010 Looking at http://www.marinetraffic.com/ais/ it looks like a tug is pushing or pulling her home. but they are going 12 k http://cam01.hillsboroughcounty.org/user/JViewer.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveaaaaa Posted February 14, 2010 #50 Share Posted February 14, 2010 you are the one choosing to quote nautical miles, the link is stating the distance in km OR mi OR nm...the map clearly shows that the distance they are using is a straight shot or what they call air miles....wait, you didnt think that a nautical mile was something other than a unit of measure did you? you speak as if when something is listed in nautical miles that means distance by boat, you couldnt possible think that right?:rolleyes: SO this is an RCCL ship that sailed yesterday from Cozumel that I grabbed the statistics for..... Departure was 18 hrs 53 min ago. (at 19:00 h local time) Arrival will be in 16 hrs 7 min. (at 07:00 h local time) Traveled distance since Cozumel: 276.61 nm (512.29 km) Remaining distance to Tampa: 235.07 nm (435.34 km) So if I add the totals its 509.67NM So you are telling me that is wrong? Its not miles by ship? I don't think so,as it plots the ship even showing the underwater topo.Why would thay show nautical maps,even show a little ship on it and its not ship miles? Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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