Rare WriterOnDeck Posted December 15, 2011 #1 Share Posted December 15, 2011 During our just-completed 45-day cruise on the Maasdam, they came around one day and installed peepholes on our doors. They have a swinging cover for the inside, which nicely eliminates any light coming in. My only nitpick is that they installed them all on our deck so that the hole is at eye level for someone who is at least 5-foot 5-inches. At 5'3" I really had to get on my tiptoes to see out. Anyone much shorter would find it useless. I am somewhat amazed that they didn't take into account the large number of shorter people and install them a few inches lower -- tall people can always bend over to accommodate the lower level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sail7seas Posted December 15, 2011 #2 Share Posted December 15, 2011 I specifically noticed there was a peephole in our door on Nieuw Amsterdam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paganwoman Posted December 15, 2011 #3 Share Posted December 15, 2011 I hear you there. I am only 5'2" so I can relate. I am going on the Maasdam in May so I can check them out. I get so angry when I go the the supermarket, department store or anywhere that the shelves are higher than I can reach or the product to pushed way back so I can not reach it. I feel so helpless having to ask someone to get it for me. Luckily my husband is 6 ft so he can easily reach things. He has no idea what it is like at my level....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMLincoln Posted December 15, 2011 #4 Share Posted December 15, 2011 5'0" here! and short arms to boot! Not fair but it's a healthy body so I"m glad to have it! Peep holes in hotels are usually useless for me and these will probably be too. Oh well. Somehow I survived my cruises without a peephole and will continue to. I think they installed them becasue of a SOLAS requirement, and maybe it was their standard height they they used. It's funny because I'm not that short compared to many of the crew! m-- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwissMyst Posted December 15, 2011 #5 Share Posted December 15, 2011 Good points and I am surprised under ADA accommodation guidelines this would not also be made accessible to those in a wheel chair too if this is even a possible to look into this peephole from a wheelchair. On a similar note after hearing Ruth C's complaint about the inaccessibility of the electrical outlet high above the sink area, I checked it out because I did not know it even existed. It is designed to take the old same-sized plug prongs so if it could be reached by shorter people, it can't be used for most new dissimilar-sized pronged electrical appliances anyway. Net zero loss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeriatricNurse Posted December 15, 2011 #6 Share Posted December 15, 2011 During our just-completed 45-day cruise on the Maasdam, they came around one day and installed peepholes on our doors. They have a swinging cover for the inside, which nicely eliminates any light coming in. My only nitpick is that they installed them all on our deck so that the hole is at eye level for someone who is at least 5-foot 5-inches. At 5'3" I really had to get on my tiptoes to see out. Anyone much shorter would find it useless. I am somewhat amazed that they didn't take into account the large number of shorter people and install them a few inches lower -- tall people can always bend over to accommodate the lower level. And it's about time! The "peepholes" should have been installed during the construction of the ship! Hopefuly, they have now been installed, or soon will be, on all the other HAL ships! It is a security feature so that one is able to see who is knocking on the door before opening it! :) (Now could the installation of "interactive" T.V.'s be the next innovation)!:rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krazy Kruizers Posted December 15, 2011 #7 Share Posted December 15, 2011 The peepholes are on the Noordam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sail7seas Posted December 15, 2011 #8 Share Posted December 15, 2011 Yes, I remember from our March cruise on her. First I had noticed it on any of the ships for some reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dayenu Posted December 15, 2011 #9 Share Posted December 15, 2011 I think it's a recent law to have peep-holes on ships like in hotel rooms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkrislc Posted December 15, 2011 #10 Share Posted December 15, 2011 I could be wrong, but I don't recall peep holes on any of the ships I've traveled. I actually remembering being surprised when I saw them in photos on the new Disney ship. Could be poor memory, however. However, I just checked pictures of my cabin door from the Disney Wonder and don't see any peep holes. Unfortunately, I don't have door pictures from any other cabins to see if my memory is the issue or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IRL_Joanie Posted December 15, 2011 #11 Share Posted December 15, 2011 Zuiderdam has the peepholes also. Standard height which is to high for shorty me:( photo of one in door from the inside of SA 7054: http://joanjett2000.topcities.com/HAL/Zuiderdam/7054_shrimpboat123-4.jpg Joanie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donh1 Posted December 15, 2011 #12 Share Posted December 15, 2011 I hear you there. I am only 5'2" so I can relate. I am going on the Maasdam in May so I can check them out. I get so angry when I go the the supermarket, department store or anywhere that the shelves are higher than I can reach or the product to pushed way back so I can not reach it. I feel so helpless having to ask someone to get it for me. Luckily my husband is 6 ft so he can easily reach things. He has no idea what it is like at my level....... Maybe you can order two dozen lido trays from their storage room to stand on. LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon1 Posted December 15, 2011 #13 Share Posted December 15, 2011 A convenient addition. Very welcome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveOKC Posted December 15, 2011 #14 Share Posted December 15, 2011 Good points and I am surprised under ADA accommodation guidelines this would not also be made accessible to those in a wheel chair too if this is even a possible to look into this peephole from a wheelchair. On a similar note after hearing Ruth C's complaint about the inaccessibility of the electrical outlet high above the sink area, I checked it out because I did not know it even existed. It is designed to take the old same-sized plug prongs so if it could be reached by shorter people, it can't be used for most new dissimilar-sized pronged electrical appliances anyway. Net zero loss. Be careful using that high outlet above the sink. Not only is it high up, but at least on the Maasdam the wording on the switch was in a light gold on a while background, so it is very difficult to read. I did not notice that the switch was in the 220 position and I burned up my electric razor (my fault for not checking of course) - just a word to the wise. DaveOKC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ33328 Posted December 16, 2011 #15 Share Posted December 16, 2011 Use the stool from the vanity if you are having a problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traveling Bob Posted December 16, 2011 #16 Share Posted December 16, 2011 During our just-completed 45-day cruise on the Maasdam, they came around one day and installed peepholes on our doors. They have a swinging cover for the inside, which nicely eliminates any light coming in. My only nitpick is that they installed them all on our deck so that the hole is at eye level for someone who is at least 5-foot 5-inches. At 5'3" I really had to get on my tiptoes to see out. Anyone much shorter would find it useless. I am somewhat amazed that they didn't take into account the large number of shorter people and install them a few inches lower -- tall people can always bend over to accommodate the lower level. I guess that you didn't hear that HAL hired Randy Newman as their new spokes person "Short People got no reason..." :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koshlong Posted December 16, 2011 #17 Share Posted December 16, 2011 The peepholes are on the Noordam. When did Noordam get them? I obviously need to cruise more often! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bishop84 Posted December 16, 2011 #18 Share Posted December 16, 2011 Good points and I am surprised under ADA accommodation guidelines this would not also be made accessible to those in a wheel chair too if this is even a possible to look into this peephole from a wheelchair. IIRC the designated wheelchair accessible cabins have a 2nd lower peephole so the occupant can see out. I think it's a recent law to have peep-holes on ships like in hotel rooms. It's one of the provisions of the US Cruise Ship Safety and Security Act 2010. The cabins, including crew cabins, have to have a peephole fitted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Himself Posted December 16, 2011 #19 Share Posted December 16, 2011 Peepholes are a good security feature and I am so glad HAL has seen fit to install them. I realize with height diffences, some will say they are too high or too low for me but since we are not all of equal height that is something one will have to deal with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bishop84 Posted December 16, 2011 #20 Share Posted December 16, 2011 And it's about time! The "peepholes" should have been installed during the construction of the ship! Hopefuly, they have now been installed, or soon will be, on all the other HAL ships! It is a security feature so that one is able to see who is knocking on the door before opening it! :) (Now could the installation of "interactive" T.V.'s be the next innovation)!:rolleyes: I thik all HAL ships since the Zuiderdam were built with them, at least in the guest cabins. It is the older ships which needed them fitted to comply with the new law. Agree with the interactive TV system - maybe one day it will be fitted! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sail7seas Posted December 16, 2011 #21 Share Posted December 16, 2011 Use the stool from the vanity if you are having a problem. I hope no one does that on a moving ship. Could be an accident waiting to happen for some of us. :eek: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
English_in_Spain Posted December 16, 2011 #22 Share Posted December 16, 2011 When did Noordam get them? I obviously need to cruise more often! They were there in April 2010 as you can see from this photo. And very high up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxoocruiser Posted December 16, 2011 #23 Share Posted December 16, 2011 Good points and I am surprised under ADA accommodation guidelines this would not also be made accessible to those in a wheel chair too if this is even a possible to look into this peephole from a wheelchair. quote] The peepholes have been added to all cruiseship cabins as a result of recent changes by US Federal Department of Transportation (DOT) to it's cruiseline guidelines. ADA accommodation guidines only apply to the accessible cabins and not all cruiseline cabins. Therefore the cruiselines under ADA law and the recent DOT changes only requires peepholes to be at wheelchair height for accessible cabins only. Under the DOT changes the accessible cabins would have had 2 peepholes installed .... 1 wheelchair height and 1 for able bodies which has been the case in the accessible cabins I have recently been in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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