Smoking Policy. Is it really being enforced?

[1 HappyCruiser]

It should prove interesting to see just how effective they are at enforcing the new smoking rules. My guess is that there will be many violations especially at night when no one can detect where the smoke is coming from. ;)

 

[Mom33]

It should prove interesting to see just how effective they are at enforcing the new smoking rules. My guess is that there will be many violations especially at night when no one can detect where the smoke is coming from. ;)

 

 

The nose knows!:D

[Potstech]

Not everyone is a member of CC, or for that matter, has internet. I'm sure it will be stated in the 'Fine Print' of the Passage Contract... but how many people actually read it?? There will probably be a 'breaking in' period where they give warnings... so be prepared the first couple of cruises for it still to happen. Eventually people will learn. If non-smokers are as considerate as most smokers, everyone will be happy.

 

Your kidding right. If they were that considerate they would not smoke in public. Here is another smoker trying to see if the ruoles can be ignored. Sorry that is not considerate of those in cabins around them. Considerate Hardly they have been forced to be where they are not considerate.

[1 HappyCruiser]

The nose knows!:D

 

You are so right. :p

The OP should consider himself lucky as a smoker since it's one of the last Princess ships to sail under the old smoking rules & he can enjoy his smoking balcony.

[Vanilla]

One of my favorite areas on the Caribbean Princess has been the aft pool. Out of our 3 cruises on her, 2 of those times I have been unable to sit and watch the wake because of those that smoke and the close proximity of the chairs there (those of you who love the aft pool will know what I am talking about when I say the close proximity). I wish they would make this area non smoking also, or at least alternate days - M<W<F you can smoke there, T<TH<S you can't.... would help out both types of cruisers.

[vickie_bernie]

....and there are security cameras that monitor the balconies.....;)

 

yup there are lots of cameras around, say two on our last voyage from our balcony

 

 

 

this is no different than staying in a hotel in Canada now (don't know if the US is the same) but all hotels are non smoking... you see the group of smokers outside the doors smoking. Of course there is still the people who smoke in the stairways and rooms, and I guess Princess will have the same problems. But it is much easier to prove with cabin steward, passing in hallways, and your balcony neighbour.

 

I for one would take a pic (camera is always handy while sailing) and show security staff so they can be sure to notify the offender.

 

I do hope Princess enforces it and that the smokers comply with the rule. I now feel I can book a balcony and actual enjoy it - well I hope.

 

 

vickie

[Idratherbeatsea]

If only they would expand the policy to the casino.

[jpthomas27]

So, what I'm understanding is that if your husband can get away with it, he is willing to break the rules, go against policies that are put in place in order to protect other passengers' health, well being and least important, but still relevant..thier comfort in thier own cabin, all in order to fullfill his own selfish fetish.

 

Good to know!

 

When my asthmatic wife starts hacking and having troubles breathing because your husband's smoke is filling my cabin, I'll be sure to thank him personally.

[vickie_bernie]

So, what I'm understanding is that if your husband can get away with it, he is willing to break the rules, go against policies that are put in place in order to protect other passengers' health, well being and least important, but still relevant..thier comfort in thier own cabin, all in order to fullfill his own selfish fetish.

 

Good to know!

 

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well said

[Kim]

So, what I'm understanding is that if your husband can get away with it, he is willing to break the rules, go against policies that are put in place in order to protect other passengers' health, well being and least important, but still relevant..thier comfort in thier own cabin, all in order to fullfill his own selfish fetish.

 

Good to know!

 

When my asthmatic wife starts hacking and having troubles breathing because your husband's smoke is filling my cabin, I'll be sure to thank him personally.

 

I should have known that I would have been read the riot act for even touching this subject. Last I knew, these boards were a forum to ask questions and that's what I did. I don't smoke and wish my husband didn't, but the fact remains that he does and that's why I asked about the rules regarding our balcony and smoking on it.

 

Thanks for making me feel so welcome.

[happytalk44]

I should have known that I would have been read the riot act for even touching this subject. Last I knew, these boards were a forum to ask questions and that's what I did. I don't smoke and wish my husband didn't, but the fact remains that he does and that's why I asked about the rules regarding our balcony and smoking on it.

 

Thanks for making me feel so welcome.

 

I am sorry that folks went ballistic on you for asking a simple question. As you can tell these folks have won this battle and are still out to win the war. They will NEVER be happy until Princess is completely non-smoking. You notice they are now going after the casino and other smoking-allowed venues when the new policy is not even yet in effect. There will be no end to it now...

[Potstech]

Sorry you did not like the response you got but I think you suspected what it would be even before you asked. No one bad mouthed you or called you any names. Sorry you were not ready to hear the truth and please be kind enough to tell your husband the responses you recieved.

 

By the way I smoked for over 35 years and quit after my second heart attack and third cautherization. I still crave cigarettes after 13 years of not smoking. It is the worst thing in my life I had to do to keep my life.

 

Hopefully he will see the trend and do what needs to be done.

[Nukesailor]

On the 12/6 - 12/20 Coral Princess cruise, a page with the new smoking policy was inserted in the departure day Patter. That will probably be the final warning. They later admitted it was a mistake and that the smoking policy had not changed yet.

 

Based on our experience on that cruise, I wish it had been in force for the previous cruise on the Coral. Due to chainsmoking idiots who had our balcony cabin before us, it took 5 days to get rid of the heavy smoke odor. It was so bad, they not only washed down the cabin 3 times, but also had to shampoo the carpet, replace all linen and pillows, replace the mattresses, replace the curtains and nuked the place with Fabreeze (perhaps only slightly less bad than cigarette smoke). Even the lifejackets reeked of smoke. The steward admitted that he hated to even enter the cabin on the previous cruise. And then we discovered our upwind neighbor liked to smoke on the balcony.

 

I'm not feeling too charitable towards smokers at the moment.

 

Art

[Working 2 Cruise]

One of my favorite areas on the Caribbean Princess has been the aft pool. Out of our 3 cruises on her, 2 of those times I have been unable to sit and watch the wake because of those that smoke and the close proximity of the chairs there (those of you who love the aft pool will know what I am talking about when I say the close proximity). I wish they would make this area non smoking also, or at least alternate days - M<W<F you can smoke there, T<TH<S you can't.... would help out both types of cruisers.

 

Vanilla, guess what? Princess has gone as far as it is going to accommodating non-smokers... It should now make the aft pool unbearable for you! In a way, it is divine justice kicking non-smokers in the back... Now that non-smokers have gotten their way of having non-smoking balconies, where do you think smokers are going to go?

 

By the way, Vanilla... don't you think it greedy to ask for even more? Let the smokers in peace... Greed is never a good thing, in any shape or form.

[Working 2 Cruise]

I am sorry that folks went ballistic on you for asking a simple question. As you can tell these folks have won this battle and are still out to win the war. They will NEVER be happy until Princess is completely non-smoking. You notice they are now going after the casino and other smoking-allowed venues when the new policy is not even yet in effect. There will be no end to it now...

 

That will never happen... Smokers are a big revenue for Princess. It has been tried before and was an abject failure...:D

[happytalk44]

That will never happen... Smokers are a big revenue for Princess. It has been tried before and was an abject failure...:D

 

Hope you are right. Just seems like if you give them an inch they take a mile...on all their pet peeves. They are the only ones with rights, doncha know?

[Working 2 Cruise]

Hope you are right. Just seems like if you give them an inch they take a mile...on all their pet peeves. They are the only ones with rights, doncha know?

 

I absolutely agree. I am disappointed in Vickie Bernie's opinion, but what really got me is the person asking that the casino become non-smoking. Good luck with that! Yes, people do feel entitled to everything!

[IECalCruiser]

I absolutely agree. I am disappointed in Vickie Bernie's opinion, but what really got me is the person asking that the casino become non-smoking. Good luck with that! Yes, people do feel entitled to everything!

There are usually several non-smoking evenings in the Casino every week. Even smokers have to admit that you don't even need to light up to get your nicotine fix in the Casino most nights :eek: I am sensitive to smoke and I haven't had a problem by the Terrace Pool area on the Golden, Star and Sapphire because smoking is only allowed on the port side.

[qld cruiser]

Hi, P&O Australia has had it in force for some time regarding smoking in cabins etc

 

This is from their questionaire..

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Where can I smoke?Smoking is not permitted indoors on any of our ships. This includes your cabin and private balcony. For those who smoke, there are selected outdoor areas where smoking is permitted and this information will be communicated to you on board.

 

I don't smoke, and get sinus from breathing it in...but respect people's right to smoke in the designated areas....I just avoid walking anywhere near them.

 

kind regards, Lorraine:):)

[BuckeyeMark]

I absolutely agree. I am disappointed in Vickie Bernie's opinion, but what really got me is the person asking that the casino become non-smoking. Good luck with that! Yes, people do feel entitled to everything!

 

I can't believe people would feel entitled to clean air, the ability to breathe and that you keep cancer to yourself! Of all the nerve! :rolleyes:

[Cruisin' Chick]

Hope you are right. Just seems like if you give them an inch they take a mile...on all their pet peeves. They are the only ones with rights, doncha know?

 

Well, if non-smokers don't already outnumber smokers on cruises, they soon will as smokers die off. Sorry, but that's the truth. Just two years ago, we lost my MIL to lung cancer and she had even quit smoking years before.

[Aus Traveller]

Hi, P&O Australia has had it in force for some time regarding smoking in cabins etc

 

This is from their questionaire..

.

Where can I smoke?Smoking is not permitted indoors on any of our ships. This includes your cabin and private balcony. For those who smoke, there are selected outdoor areas where smoking is permitted and this information will be communicated to you on board.

 

I don't smoke, and get sinus from breathing it in...but respect people's right to smoke in the designated areas....I just avoid walking anywhere near them.

 

kind regards, Lorraine:):)

I don't mind people smoking if they want to, I just want to have the same right not to smoke. I also don't want to breathe in second-hand smoke that can trigger an asthma attack. I have been on a 28 night cruise (on Princess) with a balcony that we could only use when our next-door neighbour wasn't smoking.

 

The P&O policy seems to work well and seems to be a good compromise. I haven't heard many smokers complaining about not smoking in the casino or on their balconies. People who want to breathe in clean air soon learn which areas they have to avoid.

[windsor26]

As Princess would rather that the new rules were well known I would assume that assume that a No Smoking sign will be placed on all balconies - which will completely solve the ignorance problem

 

Australian Princess and other cruise lines based here have not found they get less money from the casino now they are completely non smoking they only lose when they sail around the Western Australian coast and have to close down for the duration.:)

[tequilasunrise]

I guarantee you if someone is smoking on the balcony next to mne that I will report it.

 

 

Me too...

 

I hate second hand smoke. When it was allowed, I didn't complain or bother the smokers---I simply booked inside cabins. Now, after years of inside cabins...it's OUR TURN. If I pay a huge difference in price for fresh air, and they tell me the balconies are all non-smoking, then they had BETTER enforce it or give me my money back! Otherwise they are not providing the product they are charging for.

[CruiserGuyWPB]

That will never happen... Smokers are a big revenue for Princess. It has been tried before and was an abject failure...:D

It seems as though the non smoker is a bigger revenue for Princess. IF the smoker was a bigger revenue then Princess would not be making the changes that they are. No business is going to make a decision that is going to make them lose money. Maybe 20 years ago when Carnival tried the non smoking ship it was a huge failure, but today may be a different story. All the changes the cruise lines are making are in favor of the non smoker not the smoker.....so it seems to me that the bigger revenue maker is the non smoker.