Rock_Dr Posted April 13, 2013 #1 Share Posted April 13, 2013 The HAL brochure says you board the "McKinley Explorer". Is this the same train as the Alaska Railroad "Denali Star"? Are they just HAL private cares on the train? If they are just private cars, what type are they? Domed? Double decker with domed uppers? No Domes? Are they equal to "Adventure Class" or "Gold Star Class" or something else? Still looking at options. Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwi_girl Posted April 13, 2013 #2 Share Posted April 13, 2013 If you go to the HAL web site there is more information and video of the train trip (and lots of other info on other stuff). I've found the HAL board here very helpful with any HAL specific questions I've had. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Budget Queen Posted April 13, 2013 #3 Share Posted April 13, 2013 Yes these are private cars, pulled behind the Alaska RR cars. HAL has all forward seating, and dome upper viewing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shmoo here Posted April 13, 2013 #4 Share Posted April 13, 2013 The HAL brochure says you board the "McKinley Explorer". Is this the same train as the Alaska Railroad "Denali Star"? Are they just HAL private cares on the train? If they are just private cars, what type are they? Domed? Double decker with domed uppers? No Domes? Are they equal to "Adventure Class" or "Gold Star Class" or something else? Still looking at options. Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PennyAgain Posted April 14, 2013 #5 Share Posted April 14, 2013 The general opinion is that the HAL rail cars are nicer than the Alaska Railroad cars. As with the tour buses the HAL and Princess rail cars vanish at the end of the tourist season, so most Alaskans don't get to try them out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agabbymama Posted April 15, 2013 #6 Share Posted April 15, 2013 Yes these are private cars, pulled behind the Alaska RR cars. HAL has all forward seating, and dome upper viewing. With really big areas between the cars to stand & smoke or get really great photos of the passing scenery. The dining area is on the lower level as are the restrooms. The seats are similar to airline seats, but no overhead) and as BQ states they all face forward and are assigned when you board. The food is a little different than what is offered on the Alaska RR website too, but it is excellent. Best prime rib I've ever had anywhere! Not sure what prices are now, Prime Rib Dinner was $28 in 2011. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shmoo here Posted April 15, 2013 #7 Share Posted April 15, 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Budget Queen Posted April 15, 2013 #8 Share Posted April 15, 2013 With really big areas between the cars to stand & smoke or get really great photos of the passing scenery. QUOTE] All the cars have vestibules. This is where you board on each end of the cars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freehike Posted April 17, 2013 #9 Share Posted April 17, 2013 (edited) We were on the McKinley Explorer last year. Incredibly good time. Very luxurious, smooth and easy ride. The Bloody Mary was the best I've ever had. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD Edited April 17, 2013 by Freehike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tasha99 Posted April 19, 2013 #10 Share Posted April 19, 2013 (edited) Oh wow! Those are much nicer cars than the regular Alaska Railway cars (can't say how they compare to Gold Star Service, though). The food sounds better too (think overpriced Amtrack quality sandwiches on the regular train.) Still, I bet you are getting what you pay for. I'm taking the train from Anchorage to Seward for our cruise. We went through the Alaska Railroad site, and mailed in coupons from the Northern Lights coupon book. They were less than $40 apiece, and HAL was charging $122 for their train ride. It's nice that there are both budget and deluxe options. Edited April 19, 2013 by tasha99 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shmoo here Posted April 19, 2013 #11 Share Posted April 19, 2013 Here's a picture of the dining room on the lower level of our car: And the menu for dinner: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Chew Posted April 20, 2013 #12 Share Posted April 20, 2013 oh wow! thanks for the pictures ... we've been wondering what to expect on our cruisetour this July! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StreakedBlonde Posted March 22, 2015 #13 Share Posted March 22, 2015 Lots of great info on the HAL rail section of their Denali excursion!!! I have been trying to find out something about this part of our tour ever since it was booked. Thanks so much for the wonderful pictures and information. Karen in Texas //Royal Caribbean/Carnival/HAL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rwams Posted March 22, 2015 #14 Share Posted March 22, 2015 Was on the train lasy year in May, such a beautiful trip and wonderful views. The dining section was very good. The train slowed down when we went past Mt. Mckinley allowed some good photo shots. I think that you will enjoy the train. Rick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hvsteve1 Posted March 28, 2015 #15 Share Posted March 28, 2015 If you're comparing this to Alaska Railroad cars, ARR did order new cars a few years back with which they compete with the cruise lines. The big difference in car design was the cruise line cars have observation platforms between the cars and the ARR cars have observation platforms on top of the cars. This is the gold level service which also has dining on those cars. I don't know if any of the cruise lines have bought new cars in recent years. We stayed at the Anchorage Hilton, a high rise overlooking the rail yard. Being a railfan, I was up early to shoot video of the ARR putting together their trains for the day. It was interesting seeing them moving around the flashy cars from the various cruise lines. All the cruise line cars head out on the same train. I was also at the station to tape the train leaving so I could catch each group of cars as they went by. I'll have to see if I can dig out those videos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donaldsc Posted March 28, 2015 #16 Share Posted March 28, 2015 With really big areas between the cars to stand & smoke or get really great photos of the passing scenery. The dining area is on the lower level as are the restrooms. The seats are similar to airline seats, but no overhead) and as BQ states they all face forward and are assigned when you board. The food is a little different than what is offered on the Alaska RR website too, but it is excellent. Best prime rib I've ever had anywhere! Not sure what prices are now, Prime Rib Dinner was $28 in 2011. This is a quote from the Alaska RR site - "Is there a smoking area, or designated smoking car, onboard the train? No. Smoking is not permitted on any Alaska Railroad train. Passengers may smoke in designated smoking areas outside the depots prior to boarding the train. Passengers traveling on board the Denali Star may disembark for a few minutes at the Talkeetna and/or Denali depots while we board new passengers. There are no such stops on the Coastal Classic or Glacier Discovery trains." Don't know about the cars owned by HAL or Princess but I would not want to stand in the vestibule trying to take pictures with someone next me blowing smoke all over me and my photo equipment. DON Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agabbymama Posted March 28, 2015 #17 Share Posted March 28, 2015 (edited) My cruisetour was a few years ago, so they may indeed have stopped the smoking on the train Since smoking is now so taboo. Sorry if my information is incorrect. Edited March 28, 2015 by agabbymama Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Summer Beaches Posted March 28, 2015 #18 Share Posted March 28, 2015 Is there room at your feet for a carry-on, or must it be sent ahead with the luggage? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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