GadgetRick Posted April 15, 2013 #1 Share Posted April 15, 2013 So, leaving Jacksonville in July and will wind up in the Bahamas. I was told by the guy at Carnival, Passports aren't required when leaving and coming back to a US port. I'm good with a passport myself but my wife's is expired and our kids don't have them. I was told birth certificates (the official ones) would be enough along with photo ID for us adults. I have time to get passports but this is a birthday surprise for the wife and I won't be telling her until about a month before the cruise, which wouldn't really leave us enough time to get the passports taken care of without a lot of work. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruising Golfer Posted April 15, 2013 #2 Share Posted April 15, 2013 You are good with birth certs. and I.D.s Just go and have a good time... C.G. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul929207 Posted April 15, 2013 #3 Share Posted April 15, 2013 If you are all US citizens and if your cruise leaves from a US port and returns to the same port going to the Bahamas, a passport is not required. A Birth Certificate issued by the government (not hospital or church) and a government issued photo ID are acceptable. The Photo ID is for person 16 or older. Everyone needs BC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Keith1010 Posted April 15, 2013 #4 Share Posted April 15, 2013 The only issue is if for whatever reason you had to fly back home (illness, etc.) you would need a passport. If you think you will be traveling more outside the USA to places such as Europe consider getting a passport. Keith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GadgetRick Posted April 16, 2013 Author #5 Share Posted April 16, 2013 Thanks. As I said, it's not a question of whether a passport is good or not (my wife's is expired and my kids don't have one yet), rather of timing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare sprint180 Posted April 16, 2013 #6 Share Posted April 16, 2013 I would go with the passports. I know it is an expense but then there wouldn't be a problem is you had to fly and you'd have them for the next cruise. I got them for my family, 5 kids, and glad I did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Scrapnana Posted April 16, 2013 #7 Share Posted April 16, 2013 I would take yours and your wife's expired one. If the unforseen did happen it would make it a little easier. Also, when you return encourage your wife to renew hers ( if your wife's passport was issued within the last 15 years with no name changes, she can get a new one by mail). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krazy Kruizers Posted April 16, 2013 #8 Share Posted April 16, 2013 Get the passports. Always be prepared for the unexpected. What if something happened at home and you had to get back in a hurry? What if one of you becomes ill and you all have to leave the ship and then have to fly home? You need a passport to fly home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare sparks1093 Posted April 16, 2013 #9 Share Posted April 16, 2013 Thanks. As I said, it's not a question of whether a passport is good or not (my wife's is expired and my kids don't have one yet), rather of timing. A month is more than enough time to obtain passports, especially if you pay for the expdeited service. So if that is the only issue and you want to get them you can. (But as pointed out it is not required for your cruise.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GadgetRick Posted April 16, 2013 Author #10 Share Posted April 16, 2013 A month is more than enough time to obtain passports, especially if you pay for the expdeited service. So if that is the only issue and you want to get them you can. (But as pointed out it is not required for your cruise.) Right but paying the expedited service x4 is what I don't want to do. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
navybankerteacher Posted April 16, 2013 #11 Share Posted April 16, 2013 So, leaving Jacksonville in July and will wind up in the Bahamas. I was told by the guy at Carnival, Passports aren't required when leaving and coming back to a US port. I'm good with a passport myself but my wife's is expired and our kids don't have them. I was told birth certificates (the official ones) would be enough along with photo ID for us adults. I have time to get passports but this is a birthday surprise for the wife and I won't be telling her until about a month before the cruise, which wouldn't really leave us enough time to get the passports taken care of without a lot of work. Thanks. When you say "... wind up in the Bahamas..." , I assume you do not mean "wind uo in the Bahamas". Because if you do wind up in the Bahamas, you are not on a closed circuit, and you would need a passport if you ever wanted to get back from the Bahamas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noobcruiser Posted April 16, 2013 #12 Share Posted April 16, 2013 I know I may get flamed, but you will be on Carnival, which of late has had a run of bad luck. If it were me in your shoes, the money spent on the passports would be well worth it just in case something would force you to have to fly home. Even the Dpt of State website spells it out on their exit\entry requirements: Sea Travel: U.S. citizens traveling to The Bahamas by sea on private watercraft or most commercial vessels must have a valid passport. Those traveling by sea on an officially-designated “closed-loop cruise”, meaning that the port of entry is the same port as the port of re-entry upon return to the U.S., may enter using a passport, passport card, or other Western Hemisphere Travel Initiative (WHTI) compliant document, however, it is prudent to obtain a passport before travel in case of an unforeseen emergency that requires a cruise passenger to disembark and return by air. (Please verify with your cruise line if your intended cruise is designated a closed-loop cruise.) Travelers arriving via private watercraft are charged docking fees. We strongly encourage all U.S. citizens to apply for a passport book or passport card well in advance of anticipated travel. You can call 1-877-4USA-PPT (1-877-487-2778) for information on how to apply for passports. If you are planning on an extended stay, be prepared to present evidence of financial solvency upon entry to The Bahamas. Visit the Embassy of the Commonwealth of The Bahamas for the most current visa information. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George C Posted April 16, 2013 #13 Share Posted April 16, 2013 another vote for get a passport, there good for 10 years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GadgetRick Posted April 16, 2013 Author #14 Share Posted April 16, 2013 I understand all of the pros of a passport. However, since this is a surprise, I can't very well go to my wife and say, "Ok, we're renewing your passport and getting the kids passports!" She'll certainly be suspicious. I'm renewing mine anyway due to a trip to Costa Rica I'm taking later in the year. So I'll be covered (getting that taken care of this week actually). If it were me and my wife, I'd just wait and pay for the expedited service but, start adding charges and more charges with the kids and it starts to be unbearable. A trip which was reasonable quickly starts becoming much more than I'd like. But thanks for all of the info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkmom514 Posted April 17, 2013 #15 Share Posted April 17, 2013 I wouldn't worry about it. Just take the certified birth certificates and photo i.d. If something happened and you had to fly back, the U.S. would get you back. No worries and happy cruising! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chileancruiser Posted April 17, 2013 #16 Share Posted April 17, 2013 I understand all of the pros of a passport. However, since this is a surprise, I can't very well go to my wife and say, "Ok, we're renewing your passport and getting the kids passports!" She'll certainly be suspicious. I'm renewing mine anyway due to a trip to Costa Rica I'm taking later in the year. So I'll be covered (getting that taken care of this week actually). If it were me and my wife, I'd just wait and pay for the expedited service but, start adding charges and more charges with the kids and it starts to be unbearable. A trip which was reasonable quickly starts becoming much more than I'd like. But thanks for all of the info. Would it be possible to sell the idea of all of your passports to your wife in a different way. Just throwing it out there something like: "Hey Hun. I think it would be prudent for all of us to get our passports all set up in the same cycle. Kids will need to renew in 5 years but then they are back on ours 5 years after that." Its truthful, its not a lie, but rather just showing her the positives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare sparks1093 Posted April 17, 2013 #17 Share Posted April 17, 2013 I know I may get flamed, but you will be on Carnival, which of late has had a run of bad luck. If it were me in your shoes, the money spent on the passports would be well worth it just in case something would force you to have to fly home. Even the Dpt of State website spells it out on their exit\entry requirements: Everyone that sailed with CCL got back whether they had a passport or not. When the passengers left St Maarten they were given a letter from CBP which they could use in lieu of a passport. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amberlady34 Posted April 17, 2013 #18 Share Posted April 17, 2013 Would it be possible to sell the idea of all of your passports to your wife in a different way. Just throwing it out there something like: "Hey Hun. I think it would be prudent for all of us to get our passports all set up in the same cycle. Kids will need to renew in 5 years but then they are back on ours 5 years after that." Its truthful, its not a lie, but rather just showing her the positives. Sent from my SCH-I535 using Tapatalk 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GORDONCHICK Posted April 17, 2013 #19 Share Posted April 17, 2013 Are BCs enough? Yes. Personally, I don't recommend going without passports anyway. We will be flying to HI this summer, and I am packing our passports. Do we need them? No. But I'm taking them just in case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare sparks1093 Posted April 17, 2013 #20 Share Posted April 17, 2013 We will be flying to HI this summer, and I am packing our passports. Do we need them? No. But I'm taking them just in case. But if you didn't have them would you buy them for the trip? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m*u*g* Posted April 17, 2013 #21 Share Posted April 17, 2013 YES! Always. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
navybankerteacher Posted April 17, 2013 #22 Share Posted April 17, 2013 Everyone that sailed with CCL got back whether they had a passport or not. When the passengers left St Maarten they were given a letter from CBP which they could use in lieu of a passport. In cases where a whole shipload needs to be repatriated, the line will seek, and the Gov't will grant exceptions. If an individual needs to fly home because of emergency or missing the ship, they will have to play by existing rules. Citing mass cases to assure individuals is misleading. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare sparks1093 Posted April 17, 2013 #23 Share Posted April 17, 2013 In cases where a whole shipload needs to be repatriated, the line will seek, and the Gov't will grant exceptions. If an individual needs to fly home because of emergency or missing the ship, they will have to play by existing rules. Citing mass cases to assure individuals is misleading. The person I responded to is the one that brought it up and my response was only in clarification of theirs. Citing mass cases to scare people into getting a passport is misleading, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iheartbda Posted April 17, 2013 #24 Share Posted April 17, 2013 Everyone that sailed with CCL got back whether they had a passport or not. When the passengers left St Maarten they were given a letter from CBP which they could use in lieu of a passport. True, but that was a large amount of people. Would just a family by themselves be afforded the same? Retorical question.;) Not trying to scare anyone, just pointing out something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iheartbda Posted April 17, 2013 #25 Share Posted April 17, 2013 Oops Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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