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Hello all. My wife and I recently returned from an excellent cruise about Celebrity Silhouette and are hooked on cruising (her first, my 4th). While perusing options for our next hopefully this fall and next after that Feb in the Caribbean I started looking at some of the high end lines. Generally the prices seemed a bit on the high side but the current offer from Oceania seems very enticing (2 for 1 fare, free airfare, free gratuities, $500 OBC) and would cost us about what another Celebrity cruise would.

 

Personally I really liked the large ship experience, but am open to a mid sized ship. I hear so much about the service on these high end lines I was wondering what you experienced Oceania cruise have to say about your experience? And what you;d recommend for a high end "newbie"? Im almost afraid to make the step up since at normal prices 2 cruises like this would most likely not be in the discretionary budget and Id hate to be ruined for the likes of Celebrity, HAL or Princess! ;)

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Strengths

 

Food..food...food -4 speciality restaurants no extra charges (fusion, french, steak, italian)

 

Service...service- people recognize you and call you by name- especially if repeat guest

 

Mid-size ship experience....only 650-1500 people.......bigger is not always better.............. beauty wherever you look

 

Cabins... virtually all cabins the same size - about 266 sq ft -large bathroom with tub and shower.

 

Weaknesses:

 

Entertainment- low key; mostly soloist; modest productions

 

Excursions- high price; better off booking on shore or on roll call

 

Not chidren oriented- only one child on my last cruise

 

Transportation- book on your own

 

Bottomline: Having been on both Celebrity and Oceania several times, O is a step up from Celebrity depending upon what is important to you

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Lightngstv,

 

The one thing I would like to point out is the misconception many people have when they see two for one fares and actually think that's what they are getting. Two for one fares are a complete marketing gimmick found throughout the entire cruise industry. They all set an arbitrarily high price for a cruise, then cut it in half and hope you will fall for the ploy. Believe me, the two for one price is what they actually expect the cruise to cost. Think of going into a car dealership to look at a car which costs $40000. But the price sticker says $80000 and you can get two for one. That's what the cruise industry does.

 

I know most people are aware of this but it still sticks in my craw that they do it because it's completely misleading and some people think they're getting a deal when they're not.

 

Having said all that, there are many wonderful reasons to book and O cruise.s

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We just completed our first cruise on Oceania (Riviera), 24 day Caribbean/TA. This was our 48th cruise and best cruise experience ever. You can see a brief review on Holland America thread, " Jumping to Oceania"

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Lightngstv,

 

The one thing I would like to point out is the misconception many people have when they see two for one fares and actually think that's what they are getting. Two for one fares are a complete marketing gimmick found throughout the entire cruise industry. They all set an arbitrarily high price for a cruise, then cut it in half and hope you will fall for the ploy. Believe me, the two for one price is what they actually expect the cruise to cost. Think of going into a car dealership to look at a car which costs $40000. But the price sticker says $80000 and you can get two for one. That's what the cruise industry does.

 

I know most people are aware of this but it still sticks in my craw that they do it because it's completely misleading and some people think they're getting a deal when they're not.

 

Having said all that, there are many wonderful reasons to book and O cruise.s

 

+1

Just like "Free Air". It's not free but it's included. If you can get a better fare (or fly for miles) you will get an air credit (reduction) of the cruise fare.

That said, we too love Oceania for many reasons :)

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We also just finished our first Oceania trip after 30+ trips on other lines. My comment to my wife was "this was what cruising was when we first started". Yes the food is good and the shore trips cost a lot however what impressed me was the great service, the fact there was enough staff to give personalized service and the space ratio was such the ship never felt crowded, we could always find a seat where we wanted to sit.

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Hello all. My wife and I recently returned from an excellent cruise about Celebrity Silhouette and are hooked on cruising (her first, my 4th). While perusing options for our next hopefully this fall and next after that Feb in the Caribbean I started looking at some of the high end lines. Generally the prices seemed a bit on the high side but the current offer from Oceania seems very enticing (2 for 1 fare, free airfare, free gratuities, $500 OBC) and would cost us about what another Celebrity cruise would.

 

Personally I really liked the large ship experience, but am open to a mid sized ship. I hear so much about the service on these high end lines I was wondering what you experienced Oceania cruise have to say about your experience? And what you;d recommend for a high end "newbie"? Im almost afraid to make the step up since at normal prices 2 cruises like this would most likely not be in the discretionary budget and Id hate to be ruined for the likes of Celebrity, HAL or Princess! ;)

 

First, as mentioned by others, DON'T pay much attention to the advertizing gimmicks (2-for-1, free air, etc.)...When you compare cruise costs, look for the "apples for apples" comparison, bottom line cost...

What does each cruise cost, measuring the same things--cruise fare-same category of cabin, air cost (either include or don't), taxes and fees...Measuring all cruises on the same basis, you can get a good idea of comparative costs...

 

Remember also that sometimes a cruise line does offer a real "promotion"--like Celebrity's current "1-2-3"...but realize that even that isn't really "free"...it's hidden somewhere in the rate they charge you...NOTHING is ever really free--it's a business...

 

Also note that all of this pricing may vary itinerary to itinerary, sail date to sail date, even WHEN you book...

 

All you can do is compare the price of the cruise YOU want to take versus the price of whatever competing cruise YOU might want to take instead...

 

That said, cruising ANY cruise line should not "spoil" you from taking any other cruise line again--provided you were happy with that other cruise line...Sure, having been on a number of cruise lines myself, there are a few I am not rushing to go back to--but that has more to do with those cruise lines than it has to do with the ones I've really enjoyed...

 

BOTH Celebrity and Oceania are, in MY humble opinion, great products...

They have a number of similarities...as well as some notable differences...but, in the end, you can easily enjoy both...

 

I do not believe there is all that much difference, really, in the feel of the ship between the Oceania Marina/Riviera and the Celebrity S-class--even though the S-class is a bit bigger and carries more passengers...To me, it is a matter of SPACE, not of SIZE...Both are well proportioned for the number of passengers carried and therefore, feel roomy and comfortable (Want to feel a real difference? Try a cramped, crowded Carnival or NCL ship)...

 

The main differences you'll find on Oceania are that it's ALL open seating (though with Celebrity's Select seating, if you use that option, it won't be that much different) and the lack of formal nights is really nice for those of us who don't want to drag a second wardrobe onboard...

 

Entertainment is a bit better on Celebrity--though the new larger O ships now have a dedicated theater-style showroom with adequate facilities (something their older ships didn't have) and the entertainment on these ships has been much improved...

 

I think the food is a bit better on O, though I can't really find that much wrong with X's food either...(Food, of course, is very subjective). The lack of added charges for the specialty restaurants is a very nice feature.

 

Service on BOTH lines is pretty good...

 

I, for one, have no problem going back and forth between these two lines...I can enjoy a good cruise on either...

 

My advice to you is to go ahead and try Oceania...Enjoy your cruise...Next time, go ahead and book either--choose by the itinerary or the timing or the pricing ...or whatever sways you one way or another...After that, book either again...

 

I don't think you can go wrong (at least with these two ...just don't think it would be the same on Carnival or Costa!)

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I do not believe there is all that much difference, really, in the feel of the ship between the Oceania Marina/Riviera and the Celebrity S-class--even though the S-class is a bit bigger and carries more passengers...To me, it is a matter of SPACE, not of SIZE...Both are well proportioned for the number of passengers carried and therefore, feel roomy and comfortable (Want to feel a real difference? Try a cramped, crowded Carnival or NCL ship)...

 

Entertainment is a bit better on Celebrity--though the new larger O ships now have a dedicated theater-style showroom with adequate facilities (something their older ships didn't have) and the entertainment on these ships has been much improved...

 

Thank you for an informative post. My wife and I are veteran cruisers, maybe 50 or so, and have sailed a number of times on Celebrity's "S" class ships which we really enjoy. I'm looking at the Riviera for a 10 day Caribbean cruise next January, as well as suggesting it to another couple. Does the entertainment include production type shows such as on the S class ships? Everything I read about Oceania sounds great, I'm just a little concerned about the entertainment. Do they offer various types of entertainment such as jazz etc in the lounges?

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bt365 - if you are looking for the same entertainment on a 1200 passenger ship that you got on a 3000+ ship, you need to think twice. There is no room, never mind budget, for that kind of entertainment. I would dare to guess most Oceania passengers are more interested in food and ports, not entertainment, which is pleasant but not what you are looking for from your message. Perhaps you should stay with the big ships if that is important to you. If you can forego big entertainment, give O a try, but understand that it will be a very different experience.

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Everything I read about Oceania sounds great, I'm just a little concerned about the entertainment. Do they offer various types of entertainment such as jazz etc in the lounges?

 

On our last Solstice cruise I couldn't get used to the constant, loud noise (entertainment) in the atrium that carried throughout all the mid-ship floors. I just wanted to cover my ears. One night that went till MIDNIGHT and I could hear every word of every song in my mid-ship cabin (despite ear plugs). When I called the reception at 11:30 PM to complain about this noise I was assured it would last only till midnight :eek:

If that is what you like and expect - you won't get it on O. You will hear a quartet in the atrium that can only be heard if you are seated there and nowhere else. Other musical venues are offered as well but always in the appropriate lounge so that only people that wish to hear it will do so - not the whole ship.

Everything is much more understated and not "in your face".

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Thank you for an informative post. My wife and I are veteran cruisers, maybe 50 or so, and have sailed a number of times on Celebrity's "S" class ships which we really enjoy. I'm looking at the Riviera for a 10 day Caribbean cruise next January, as well as suggesting it to another couple. Does the entertainment include production type shows such as on the S class ships? Everything I read about Oceania sounds great, I'm just a little concerned about the entertainment. Do they offer various types of entertainment such as jazz etc in the lounges?

 

Rather than trying to write from memory, here's what I wrote of the entertainment on my Marina cruise a couple of years back:

 

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Entertainment: Food, of course, was the high point—and, as usual with Oceania, Entertainment was the most disappointing area—Although, it was actually a considerable improvement from our past Oceania cruises. With the dedicated stage and showroom, they now had a troupe of singers and dancers (four of each) putting on actual “production shows” with costume changes and some variety. Not quite up to the par of the production shows one sees on other cruise lines, but definitely a worthy bit of entertainment. We especially enjoyed Jennifer, from New Jersey-one of the young singers. They did the “Welcome” show and three other full productions plus participated in other activities around the ship.

The spotlight performers were a mixed bag:

Artur Banaskiewicz – Violinist: He did two shows before leaving mid-cruise. He was good at what it is he does, but two full shows of gypsy music on the violin is far too much for me. I think I found his manner of speaking and accent more entertaining than the music.

Danny Buckler – Magician/Comedian: As a magician, his act was fairly pedestrian. Small time magic starting with the trite and obvious “Indian Rope Trick”. But, as a comedian, this guy was clearly the most entertaining act on the ship. Great rapport with the crowd, quick delivery and reaction. Absolutely charming. Two shows.

Agata Sava – Soprano. Two shows. We missed her first show as we were in La Reserve for a long evening, but, after seeing her second show, we were more than happy that we missed the first. Absolutely excruciating—a soprano who had trouble hitting the high notes. And a style reminiscent of the Bride of Frankenstein in a full body cast. No movement, little expression—and an accent and delivery that made it sound as if she did not speak English—at all. Sounded as if she’d memorized the lyrics by sound or phonetics. The worst.

Bruce Parker “California Soul Man”: Two shows (we missed the second). He was actually quite good—very energetic. Sort of the Anti-Agata Sava. Moved around the stage, involved the audience. Really worked it. If there was a problem, it was in the material and the audience. This was, quite simply, not an R&B/Motown crowd. And, among all of the available R&B/Motown material, he tended to pick some of the more obscure songs—not good to do with a crowd who isn’t into that style of music and only knows the “big hits”.

Don Bryan – Ventriloquist: I’ve seen his act before—must have been on Nautica. Decent Ventriloquist, funny enough act with a couple of entertaining twists

The nights in Le Verdon, Cadiz and Livorno, there was no real show.

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Again, it is not Oceania's strong point, but, if you're just looking for a little something to keep you entertained and busy post-dinner, it's just fine...

And, as I said, the two newer ships have actual dedicated theater-type showrooms with fixed theater seats, backstage facilities, proper lighting and sound equipment--which allows them to put on actual shows, including production shows...

The smaller, older O ships have no showroom...They hold shows in a lounge...where the seating are cocktail tables and scattered bar seating...and the stage doubles as the dance floor for other uses and has no backstage--preventing them from doing anything more than simple solo acts...no costume changes, no effects, no great production values...

Still not quite to the level of Celebrity, but, does it matter that much to most?

 

IIRC, there, typically, is a piano bar offering some nighttime entertainment...and a disco which also offers up the occasional Karaoke...

 

Nightlife, overall, is a bit quieter on Oceania than on Celebrity--partly due to the older demographics...though it is a little improved on the bigger O ships...When I was last on Nautica, late night was a running joke...My wife and I befriended a young woman who was cruising with her mother and who liked to stay up late, dance, etc. My wife was always tired from the tours each day...but, since our friend pleaded, I would accompany her each night to the disco--with my wife's blessing. There was a "creepy" older guy there each night always trying to "hit" on her, so she wanted me along as "protection" (nothing creepy here, we sort of looked upon her as a daughter and my presence kept this guy away from her). Anyway, each night at the disco, the crew easily outnumbered the passengers...The crowd rarely had more than 6-10 passengers, us included, but all of the Cruise Director's staff, the entertainment acts, the folks who worked in the ship's stores, etc. I ended up making friends with the ship comedian, the piano guy, the guitar soloist from the main shows and the gemstone specialist...The Casino always had the gambling addicts up a little late, but the rest of the ship always seemed to be asleep by 10...

 

Yes, the Marina, likely due to the larger capacity, was a little livelier at night...still not as active as, say, a Celebrity ship...

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Oceania is a great cruise line, and others especially Princess could learn a lot from Oceania about how to get it right .

 

With OCEANIA :

 

- the food is sensational.

- At the buffet the food is served for you and there is waitered service to the tables . More like an informal cafe than the normal canteen on other cruise lines.

- Best of all NO SHIPS PHOTOGRAPHERS sticking their cameras up your nose at every opportunity (Princess please note your ships photographers are totally out of control)

- No loud blaring teenage music at all, just sensible low volume bands and music with the music well matched to the age profile on the ship .

- Low level promotion of retail outlets and the spa .

- Courteous efficient staff .

- No additional charges for bottled water or specialty coffees.

- Three R class ships within Oceania fleet - sensational .

- No outdoor video screens playing regae pop at excessive volumes to a totally disenterested poolside audience of 70 year olds .(Princess please NOTE.)

 

On board Regatta en route Miami - San Francisco Tues 23/04/13

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Oceania is a great cruise line, and others especially Princess could learn a lot from Oceania about how to get it right .

 

With OCEANIA :

 

- the food is sensational.

- At the buffet the food is served for you and there is waitered service to the tables . More like an informal cafe than the normal canteen on other cruise lines.

- Best of all NO SHIPS PHOTOGRAPHERS sticking their cameras up your nose at every opportunity (Princess please note your ships photographers are totally out of control)

- No loud blaring teenage music at all, just sensible low volume bands and music with the music well matched to the age profile on the ship .

- Low level promotion of retail outlets and the spa .

- Courteous efficient staff .

- No additional charges for bottled water or specialty coffees.

- Three R class ships within Oceania fleet - sensational .

- No outdoor video screens playing regae pop at excessive volumes to a totally disenterested poolside audience of 70 year olds .(Princess please NOTE.)

 

On board Regatta en route Miami - San Francisco Tues 23/04/13

 

kuldalai,

I am so glad you are enjoying your Oceania cruise (our favorite cruise line).

I am still thankful for all your help with our Star cruises a few years back.

I hope you will have a good time in San Francisco as well :D

Paul

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We also have a substantial amount of Crystal and several in almost all of the others, other than HAL. It really sticks in my craw that in the Penthouse Suite (the largest) on Celebrity they still charge for water! Wow!

 

Enough of that, our first Oceania was Regatta and it was a Christmas cruise. Elegantly decorated and we loved everything BUT THE SHOWER OVER THE TUB.

 

Our second Oceania was Riviera. I can hands down say this is the most elegant ship on the sea right now. The food it downright out of this world, service is really good, and what you will notice...1200 is SO GREAT COMPARED to over 2000. No lines, no crowds.

 

We are somewhat itinerary driven, but have covered our bucket list. Our next 7 segments will be Oceania Riviera...so one can completely fall in love. We did.

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Well, Carol,

 

Maybe not fair to compare ships built in the '90s to the new O-class ships!

 

And of course you choose to sail exclusively in owner's suites (or so I have gathered), so that is another question.

 

But having said that, I can't disagree with your conclusions. I personally don't mind the tub-shower combo, and I was in an OS on Regatta back in Nov '05 after destroying my knee in Barcelona. The jacuzzi was really important to me at the time and I didn't use the shower at all. It's nice to have the extra space on the new ships in the upper class suites to have separate jacuzzi and shower but the space just didn't exist on the older ships.

 

Maybe I should add that for people who have difficulty getting into a tub, considering that back in '05 I was on crutches or in a wheelchair, but I could get into the jacuzzi. So it does depend on your personal problems. (We wanted to take my BIL to Alaska on Regatta a couple of years ago but he was disabled by a stroke and there was no way he could have used a tub.)

 

From the complaints I have read here since Marina debuted, it would appear that lots of people prefer a big shower to a tub-shower. I guess they object to the tub-shower combo to the same extent that I object to the showers in the below-PH level on the "R" ships.

 

To each our own ...

 

Mura

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bt365 - if you are looking for the same entertainment on a 1200 passenger ship that you got on a 3000+ ship, you need to think twice. There is no room, never mind budget, for that kind of entertainment. I would dare to guess most Oceania passengers are more interested in food and ports, not entertainment, which is pleasant but not what you are looking for from your message. Perhaps you should stay with the big ships if that is important to you. If you can forego big entertainment, give O a try, but understand that it will be a very different experience.

 

 

Thank you Cape Codder. Certainly not looking to match the large format shows as on a large ship, as that is unrealistic. I am however looking for a variety of venues to enjoy throughout the evening after dinner. As I'm considering a Caribbean cruise as opposed to a European one for my first Oceania cruise the ports are secondary to the shipboard experience. Thanks so much for your feedback.

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Again, it is not Oceania's strong point, but, if you're just looking for a little something to keep you entertained and busy post-dinner, it's just fine...

And, as I said, the two newer ships have actual dedicated theater-type showrooms with fixed theater seats, backstage facilities, proper lighting and sound equipment--which allows them to put on actual shows, including production shows...

The smaller, older O ships have no showroom...They hold shows in a lounge...where the seating are cocktail tables and scattered bar seating...and the stage doubles as the dance floor for other uses and has no backstage--preventing them from doing anything more than simple solo acts...no costume changes, no effects, no great production values...

Still not quite to the level of Celebrity, but, does it matter that much to most?

 

IIRC, there, typically, is a piano bar offering some nighttime entertainment...and a disco which also offers up the occasional Karaoke...

 

Nightlife, overall, is a bit quieter on Oceania than on Celebrity--partly due to the older demographics...though it is a little improved on the bigger O ships...When I was last on Nautica, late night was a running joke...My wife and I befriended a young woman who was cruising with her mother and who liked to stay up late, dance, etc. My wife was always tired from the tours each day...but, since our friend pleaded, I would accompany her each night to the disco--with my wife's blessing. There was a "creepy" older guy there each night always trying to "hit" on her, so she wanted me along as "protection" (nothing creepy here, we sort of looked upon her as a daughter and my presence kept this guy away from her). Anyway, each night at the disco, the crew easily outnumbered the passengers...The crowd rarely had more than 6-10 passengers, us included, but all of the Cruise Director's staff, the entertainment acts, the folks who worked in the ship's stores, etc. I ended up making friends with the ship comedian, the piano guy, the guitar soloist from the main shows and the gemstone specialist...The Casino always had the gambling addicts up a little late, but the rest of the ship always seemed to be asleep by 10...

 

Yes, the Marina, likely due to the larger capacity, was a little livelier at night...still not as active as, say, a Celebrity ship...

 

Thank you Steve. It certainly seems from your review above that there is more than adequate evening entertainment to enjoy after dinner. I certainly appreciate & agree with your comment about "not being to the level of Celebrity, but does it really matter"? Thanks for a very helpful post

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Thank you Cape Codder. Certainly not looking to match the large format shows as on a large ship, as that is unrealistic. I am however looking for a variety of venues to enjoy throughout the evening after dinner. As I'm considering a Caribbean cruise as opposed to a European one for my first Oceania cruise the ports are secondary to the shipboard experience. Thanks so much for your feedback.

 

I must say that Oceania tries to goose up the entertainment in the Caribbean, but this is an area where the fabulous food works against them.

 

People tend to do an extended cocktail hour before a leisurely dinner, or linger with friends over an exotic entree and a bottle of wine as opposed to rushing to a show.

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We have two major requirements when we are cruising. We must have good lecturers and trivia. How does Oceania match up in this area?

 

We have most recently been sailing with Regent.

 

Thanks for this great topic. It is very timely for us.

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We have two major requirements when we are cruising. We must have good lecturers and trivia. How does Oceania match up in this area?

 

We have most recently been sailing with Regent.

 

Thanks for this great topic. It is very timely for us.

We have never gone to trivia but it seems to be very popular

As for good lecturers ...it is all a matter of your interests & perspective

We have been to some lectures we enjoyed very much & some that would put you to sleep

I do not think there is one answer for the question ...everyone has a different take on the speakers

 

If not having excellent speakers is a deal breaker then stick with what you know

If you can live with not all the speakers will be excellent then give O a try

 

JMO

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Trivia are very popular and enjoyable with O points being awarded to top 3 teams. These can be exchanged for O logo merchandise at the end of the cruise. The setting of trivia on O class ships (Marina/Riviera) is less than ideal as it is held in the theater.

The quality of the lectures and lecturers varies from cruise to cruise.

You'll be the judge in the end - enjoy :)

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On the Riviera they should pick a better place to have it than the theatre. When there are eight, and you can't gather around a table--other teams can hear what you are saying. There would be plenty of room upstairs in the lounge. I wish they would give this some consideration.

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Thank you for an informative post. My wife and I are veteran cruisers, maybe 50 or so, and have sailed a number of times on Celebrity's "S" class ships which we really enjoy. I'm looking at the Riviera for a 10 day Caribbean cruise next January, as well as suggesting it to another couple. Does the entertainment include production type shows such as on the S class ships? Everything I read about Oceania sounds great, I'm just a little concerned about the entertainment. Do they offer various types of entertainment such as jazz etc in the lounges?

 

Celebrity, from experience is a huge ship and has a go-go-go tempo with almost around the clock activities and all sorts of entertainment. Someone mentioned trivia .As I remember Celebrity had 6 different trivia sessions a day and huge production shows and almost a dozen different places/bars. Pool contests, late night discos, an activity around every corner It was to me a ship for people who want to be entertained in a floating resort.

 

That is the last thing I want from a cruise so I did not enjoy it as maybe another would.

 

Oceania, being 1/2 to 1/3 the size caters to people who can entertain themselves, much more subtle and subdued in character.

 

It is a matter of what you want. They are 2 very very different experiences

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Oceania, being 1/2 to 1/3 the size caters to people who can entertain themselves, much more subtle and subdued in character.

 

Dan - not our experience on Oceania. You seem to have the wrong idea about O cruisers :eek:.

 

Lou (not so subtle or subdued).

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