Karma5 Posted September 7, 2013 #451 Share Posted September 7, 2013 How will the smoking ban pan out ? Wonderful............... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiessa Posted September 7, 2013 #452 Share Posted September 7, 2013 FYI, smoking is banned in the Casino on all Australian & New Zealand Cruises including the TP from Sydney to Hawaii. This is due to Australia's very stringent no smoking laws in all enclosed spaces.About time that RCL caught up with the rest of the world. Remember when you could smoke in aircraft. Can't now but I bet you still fly. Your comparison is not valid but that's beside the point. It is a business decision and that is what will make the decision. I think they would have banned it in the casino by now if they were going to. They seem to go with local laws on their cruises because that is what people are used to and expect. They allow smoking inside the ships on many Asian trips. i'm surprised no one has complained about the lingering smell since it is such a problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRUISEFAN0001 Posted September 7, 2013 #453 Share Posted September 7, 2013 Banning smoking in all sorts of locations has been court tested for years. It's a business decision, not a constitutional right. Smokers need to get over it and spend their energies on quitting the deadly habit rather than criticizing those who apparently have more sense and discipline in managing their own health. P.S. Non smokers have the same or more rights NOT to smell that filthy smoke when enjoying a cruise. There - somebody had to say it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRUZBUDS Posted September 7, 2013 #454 Share Posted September 7, 2013 Banning smoking in all sorts of locations has been court tested for years. It's a business decision, not a constitutional right. Smokers need to get over it and spend their energies on quitting the deadly habit rather than criticizing those who apparently have more sense and discipline in managing their own health. P.S. Non smokers have the same or more rights NOT to smell that filthy smoke when enjoying a cruise. There - somebody had to say it. You mean smokers don't actually have the "freedom" to pollute my breathing space? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niko40 Posted September 7, 2013 #455 Share Posted September 7, 2013 This is funny...I was searching my cruise to see if I could snag a OS since they were all sold out and so many smokers are canceling but nothing has opened up yet. hmmm I wonder why ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donoiv11 Posted September 7, 2013 #456 Share Posted September 7, 2013 I agree with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinkerme1 Posted September 7, 2013 #457 Share Posted September 7, 2013 Was talking to a reliable source today regarding this topic. He stated that RCI is taking a lot of heat for this total balcony ban. He also stated that some modifications to the recent smoking policy change is going to be made. He didn't want to be any more specific at this time. But he did say their is going to be some kind of stay of execution. I would be very disappointed in RCI if they back peddle on their new Smoking Policy! Certainly they knew there would be backlash for a while from the smokers. This policy is not only about health but safety at sea. I would give a big "FAIL" to RCI if they cower to the low percentage of smokers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aurora2143 Posted September 7, 2013 #458 Share Posted September 7, 2013 hmmm I wonder why ;) Either they're occupied by non-smokers or the smokers have not been notified. I didn't get a notice from RCI or my TA, but after reading about it on here last night I emailed my TA and cancelled our SG and 2 GS for December 14 on Quantum. I haven't received a confirmation from him yet so keep an eye out for it if you want it. Have at it. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles4515 Posted September 7, 2013 #459 Share Posted September 7, 2013 It's going to get awfully smoky up on the pool deck if that is the only outside area for smoking. I hope they put up big signs so the non smokers will know which area is for smoking, otherwise they & their children could be walking through a long tunnel of smoke at times, far far worse than some smoke on the balcony. If it gets too smoky on the pool deck they are not going to reinstitute indoor smoking. They will get rid of smoking on the pool deck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRUZBUDS Posted September 7, 2013 #460 Share Posted September 7, 2013 We just booked a balcony for a B2B on the Serenade of the Seas 2015 -- we got one of the big ones by the hump. The smoking policy tipped the scales for us! :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donoiv11 Posted September 7, 2013 #461 Share Posted September 7, 2013 Just emailed RC to complain about the smoking ban. I feel they sold me the balcony stateroom under false pretenses. I booked a balcony so that I could smoke. Otherwise, I could have saved some money.:( Interestingly enough, I booked an inside room so I didn't have to sit on my balcony and smell your bad habit! I am going to complain as well and let them know that I would have bought a balcony and now they are all gone. FALSE PRETENSES! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elizanessie Posted September 7, 2013 #462 Share Posted September 7, 2013 If it gets too smoky on the pool deck they are not going to reinstitute indoor smoking. They will get rid of smoking on the pool deck. If they get rid of smoking on the pool deck then the ship becomes a non smoking ship (apart from the casino)....I can't see that working out too well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRUISEFAN0001 Posted September 7, 2013 #463 Share Posted September 7, 2013 Was talking to a reliable source today regarding this topic. He stated that RCI is taking a lot of heat for this total balcony ban. He also stated that some modifications to the recent smoking policy change is going to be made. He didn't want to be any more specific at this time. But he did say their is going to be some kind of stay of execution. Highly unlikely. This is the type of decision that has gone through extensive vetting at high levels before finalizing. There will be just as many people who now consider a cruise because of the balcony ban as there are those cancelling because of it. Kudos for the overdue, bold, and right decision by RCI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruising89143 Posted September 7, 2013 #464 Share Posted September 7, 2013 Your comparison is not valid but that's beside the point. It is a business decision and that is what will make the decision. I think they would have banned it in the casino by now if they were going to. They seem to go with local laws on their cruises because that is what people are used to and expect. They allow smoking inside the ships on many Asian trips. i'm surprised no one has complained about the lingering smell since it is such a problem. Celebrity did not ban smoking in the casinos at first. They started with a policy similar to the one RCI is implementing. The casino will be next. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donoiv11 Posted September 7, 2013 #465 Share Posted September 7, 2013 May I assume that you are a constitutional attorney, Supreme Court Justice, or some other legal "MAVEN" as the basis for your opinion? The constitution is a living document that is subject to change and interpretation. That's reaching a little bit isn't it? Not sure you have to be a Supreme Court justice to understand that smoking isn't covered anywhere in the constitution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles4515 Posted September 7, 2013 #466 Share Posted September 7, 2013 If they get rid of smoking on the pool deck then the ship becomes a non smoking ship (apart from the casino)....I can't see that working out too well. There are outside areas that are not on the pool deck that are not high traffic that could be utilized if need be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruising89143 Posted September 7, 2013 #467 Share Posted September 7, 2013 Highly unlikely. This is the type of decision that has gone through extensive vetting at high levels before finalizing. There will be just as many people who now consider a cruise because of the balcony ban as there are those cancelling because of it. Kudos for the overdue, bold, and right decision by RCI. I agree. As has been posted on this thread, we saw and read the same complaints when RCI implemented the no smoking policy in the staterooms. There was the foot stomping and announcements that people were going to cancel and move to the other cruise lines. RCI didn't flinch. It worked out well for them then and it will work out well this time. I still predict a few more cruise lines will move to this policy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zigggypup Posted September 7, 2013 #468 Share Posted September 7, 2013 The casino will be next. No way. Too much cash at stake. $$$$ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zigggypup Posted September 7, 2013 #469 Share Posted September 7, 2013 Highly unlikely. This is the type of decision that has gone through extensive vetting at high levels before finalizing. You wait and see. If Obama can change his mind about bombing Syria, RCI can surely modify a smoking policy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruising89143 Posted September 7, 2013 #470 Share Posted September 7, 2013 There are outside areas that are not on the pool deck that are not high traffic that could be utilized if need be. On the Reflection they had four outdoor areas that I'm aware of. May have been more. Deck five they had nice comfortable chairs and ashtrays on the port side which was covered. They had a section on the pool deck port side that was covered. They had an area in the sunset bar on the port side that was nice and large and they had a smoking area starboard at the Mast Bar on the deck above the pool. There were plenty of places. What we have here is dramatics which does not surprise me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigeagle12 Posted September 7, 2013 #471 Share Posted September 7, 2013 No way. Too much cash at stake. $$$$ Good try. Those that gamble will still gamble .. it is as big an addiction as smoking. It would also get more non-smokers into the casino. And best of all it would get the smokers that are only there to smoke out of the casino. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elizanessie Posted September 7, 2013 #472 Share Posted September 7, 2013 There are outside areas that are not on the pool deck that are not high traffic that could be utilized if need be. Can't remember any areas off hand ...I guess the sky bar on Oasis Class :confused: Oh just imagine if the weather is bad and the decks are closed....oooh casino here I come....along with hundreds of others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruising89143 Posted September 7, 2013 #473 Share Posted September 7, 2013 No way. Too much cash at stake. $$$$ Didn't hurt Celebrity. Give it time.;) baby steps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zigggypup Posted September 7, 2013 #474 Share Posted September 7, 2013 Good try. Those that gamble will still gamble .. it is as big an addiction as smoking. It would also get more non-smokers into the casino. And best of all it would get the smokers that are only there to smoke out of the casino. Ain't happening. If they were going to do that, it would have been much easier just to incorporate it into this latest policy change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aquahound Posted September 7, 2013 #475 Share Posted September 7, 2013 I agree. As has been posted on this thread, we saw and read the same complaints when RCI implemented the no smoking policy in the staterooms. There was the foot stomping and announcements that people were going to cancel and move to the other cruise lines. RCI didn't flinch. It worked out well for them then and it will work out well this time. I still predict a few more cruise lines will move to this policy. Exactly. And lets face it, not all smokers book balconies. Narrow it down to the ones who do book balconies and would actually cancel this unique cruise line because of an inconvenience, I have a feeling the cancelations arent as inflated as some make it seem on this forum. JMHO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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