why do you have to get new CAS card for each sailing?

[cacj]

When we were on the Sun last year, we got the CAS card. We brought it on the Dawn and found out that we had to reapply for one on the Dawn. This seemed odd to us, and just wondered, why? We asked the host and his reply was that he did not know why.

[che5904]

Excellent question. I'd love to know the answer to that as well. Has always puzzled me.

[Twelvevman]

My guess is because of the number of people that only cruise 1 time and never return or the number of people that only cruise 1x per every couple of years. The amount of data that would need to be stored in a centralized database that all ships could access would become very large. My guess is that NCL has found it easier to only maintain the data for each sailing. It is transmitted to corporate so the rated players can be tracked and the nickel and dime players are purged out.

[NLH Arizona]

I thought it was because your points don't automatically follow you from one cruise to the next; you have to request for them to be pulled over to the next cruise, so they give you a new card for each cruise.

 

It would be easier if there was one card and the point accumulated on that card, so you didn't have to ask for them to carry over to the next cruise. Or they could have just used the cabin keycards, like Celebrity does, which would save them the time and cost of having to use the cards at all.

[garycarla]

I would think the answer above about large databases would make sense.

 

If you are a regular player, and book through CAS, your card will be waiting for you in your cabin upon arrival.

[dgparent]

I would think the answer above about large databases would make sense.

 

If you are a regular player, and book through CAS, your card will be waiting for you in your cabin upon arrival.

 

 

I don't think that would be the reason, according to what I can find there are about 25,000,000 cruisers a year even if NCL had a 10% market share that is only 2.5 million cruisers [i think this is high], even if their were no repeat passengers and they all applied for a CAS card that would only be 2.5 million records a year, that is peanuts in terms of database sizes, databases today can be measured in TB.

[coscab]

I sailed on the Dawn Jan 2013 and had to get a new card, (hadn't sailed NCL since Dec. 2011) I was told it was because it was just over a year since my last cruise, I just sailed on the Sun Dec 1 2013 and was told I had to get the new card, the old cards were "vintage" now because of the new program, I noticed that my points from Jan 2013 were transferred to my new card so I figured that was because I had gambled on an NCL ship in Jan. and was doing it again within a 12 month period, I am sailing the Dawn in Mar. 2014, it will be interesting to see if now that I have the new CAS card if I have to get another one or just keep it because it will only be 3 months between cruises. I might be all wrong on this, but I thought it had something to do with the amount of time between using the card.

[Demonyte]

To my understanding only one registration per ship is required - there is no centralized database but each ship stores their own players data. My ancient player's data was found on Jade this summer and I didn't need to fill out the form again since I had already registered on her in 2009 but since our other cruises have almost every time been on a different ship (or we haven't bothered to play enough to get new card), we have almost always had to register.

Edited December 20, 2013 by Demonyte

[hladygirl]

When I was on the dawn in nov I got to 1500 points and went to get my free drink card. I was told that some of those points were earned on my last cruise on the dawn in July ( 3 1/2 months prior. That wasn't right because I did not even get a cas card on the cruise in July. It made no sense.

[sjbdtz]

that is peanuts in terms of database sizes, databases today can be measured in TB.

 

 

That's so cute. Last month we added an additional 3.2 Petabytes capacity.

 

 

;)

[garycarla]

Granted, the size of the database does not seem that high. But, keep in mind these are ships at sea. They tried to drag fiber optic cables behind then to manage all of this in the cloud, but it streched too much and snapped.

[Tralfie]

Since we're talking about CAS, let me ask this:

 

On my first cruise -- in October -- I was on the Gem. Got a CAS, played. When I go on Breakaway in March and get a new card, do they automatically transfer points earned or do I need to do something in particular to make that happen?

 

Thanks in advance for the info!

 

Richard/Tralfie

[OceanDreaming2]

Since we're talking about CAS, let me ask this:

 

On my first cruise -- in October -- I was on the Gem. Got a CAS, played. When I go on Breakaway in March and get a new card, do they automatically transfer points earned or do I need to do something in particular to make that happen?

 

Thanks in advance for the info!

 

Richard/Tralfie

 

The casino host will contact the Gem and the points will be transferred to your new card.

[Fishbait17]

The casino host will contact the Gem and the points will be transferred to your new card.

 

But you should make sure to ask them to transfer the points. It usually doesn't just happen automatically.

 

Robin

[VideoTech]

My understanding is that each ship's casino is basically a separate business operation. This probably has more to do with the way the ships are registered in different countries than anything else. I've been to some land-based casinos where you needed a new card in each casino, even though they were under the same brand (such as with some of the Indian casinos that Harrah's/Ceasar's operate).

 

Granted, in this day and age of computerized systems, it doesn't make much sense that the casinos on the ships aren't linked together, with one card for all and your points from previous cruises automatically available on each ship.

Edited December 21, 2013 by VideoTech

[NLH Arizona]

My understanding is that each ship's casino is basically a separate business operation. This probably has more to do with the way the ships are registered in different countries than anything else. I've been to some land-based casinos where you needed a new card in each casino, even though they were under the same brand (such as with some of the Indian casinos that Harrah's/Ceasar's operate).

 

Granted, in this day and age of computerized systems, it doesn't make much sense that the casinos on the ships aren't linked together, with one card for all and your points from previous cruises automatically available on each ship.

I didn't know that about Harrah's/Ceasars, I've always used the same card at all the ones I've gone to, even the Indian owned ones. Which ones do you have to get new cards in?

[NMLady]

My guess is because of the number of people that only cruise 1 time and never return or the number of people that only cruise 1x per every couple of years. The amount of data that would need to be stored in a centralized database that all ships could access would become very large. My guess is that NCL has found it easier to only maintain the data for each sailing. It is transmitted to corporate so the rated players can be tracked and the nickel and dime players are purged out.

 

Logical, but I don't think that's the answer because eVen though we have to get a new card for each cruise it is always the same CAS number. So, even though we are 'nickel and dime' players and only cruise about every three years, evidently our names/numbers are not purged.

[NMLady]

I didn't know that about Harrah's/Ceasars, I've always used the same card at all the ones I've gone to, even the Indian owned ones. Which ones do you have to get new cards in?

 

I was wondering that too since we use our Harrah's card at Ak Chin near Phoenix, at Sandia in Albuquerque and at the Indian one near San Diego, the same card at all of them.

[TruckerDave]

That's so cute. Last month we added an additional 3.2 Petabytes capacity.

 

 

;)

 

How big is a Petabyte?

 

 

Sent using a small piece of fruit.

[VideoTech]

I was wondering that too since we use our Harrah's card at Ak Chin near Phoenix, at Sandia in Albuquerque and at the Indian one near San Diego, the same card at all of them.

 

I actually thought I remembered having to get a different card at Ak Chin or Rincon, even though it was still tied to my Harrah's TR account...but maybe I was mistaken?

[NLH Arizona]

I actually thought I remembered having to get a different card at Ak Chin or Rincon, even though it was still tied to my Harrah's TR account...but maybe I was mistaken?

Maybe Rincon, I'll let you know, I am planning a trip there this spring, but I know for a fact you can use your regular card at Ak Chin, I go there quite often. Thanks.

[Fishbait17]

Maybe Rincon, I'll let you know, I am planning a trip there this spring, but I know for a fact you can use your regular card at Ak Chin, I go there quite often. Thanks.

 

I know for a fact that my regular Diamond card works at Rincon as well. It has for at least three years. (I have a home In San Diego where I spend several months a year).

 

Robin

Edited December 21, 2013 by Fishbait17

[snorkelgirlca]

Maybe Rincon, I'll let you know, I am planning a trip there this spring, but I know for a fact you can use your regular card at Ak Chin, I go there quite often. Thanks.

 

You can use your harah's total rewards at rincon. I go to both Caesars and rincon frequently and use the same card.

 

Rincon has a little different rewards system in that they have certain days of the week which give you seven to ten times rewards credits mostly on Mondays Wednesday and Thursday and more "free food or spa credit" if you are repeat customers than caesar's Las Vegas but otherwise pretty much same point system.

[sjbdtz]

How big is a Petabyte?

 

 

Sent using a small piece of fruit.

 

 

1 petabyte = 1,000 terabytes

1 terabyte = 1,000 Gigabytes

1 Gigabyte = 1,000 Megabytes

1 Megabyte = 1,000 Kilobytes

1 Kilobyte = 1,000 bytes

 

 

It's astounding how storage capacity has expanded, and so has the need for that capacity.

[TruckerDave]

1 petabyte = 1,000 terabytes

1 terabyte = 1,000 Gigabytes

1 Gigabyte = 1,000 Megabytes

1 Megabyte = 1,000 Kilobytes

1 Kilobyte = 1,000 bytes

 

 

It's astounding how storage capacity has expanded, and so has the need for that capacity.

 

Yikes, and I just bought a portable 1TB external HD for my laptop and thought that was a lot of storage.

 

 

Sent using a small piece of fruit.