Question about smuggling alcohol and Carnival Contract

[ready2cruzagain]

Before anyone gets excited, I am not planning on smuggling alcohol. I never have and don't plan to start now but I have a question.

 

When I was reading the cruise contract it has a paragraph with the beverage policy. The last line of the paragraph states:

 

Guest agrees that Carnival has the right to disembark any guest who violates this policy and as well as any adults traveling with minors who violate this policy or any other shipboard regulation.

 

My question is, does this mean if they find your liquor they would or could kick you off the ship?

 

 

 

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[klfrodo]

Could they? Yes

If they find your under age kid drinking, they can kick off the entire family

[StolidCruiser]

Could? Absolutely.

 

Would? That depends on the violation. I'm for every smuggler being shown the door.

Edited January 5, 2016 by StolidCruiser

[Jimmy Geegitz]

If every smuggler were kicked off they would lose some serious money.

[StolidCruiser]

If every smuggler were kicked off they would lose some serious money.

 

Not really. Fare forfeited... win for Carnival. Non-revenue producing passenger off the ship... a wash for Carnival. No consumption of fixed passenger costs... win for Carnival.

 

The only loss would possibly be losing the smuggler as a returning guest. And that's not really a loss.

 

I don't understand why this policy isn't more widely enforced. Seems like an easy way to make money to me.

[thephillykid]

Not really. Fare forfeited... win for Carnival. Non-revenue producing passenger off the ship... a wash for Carnival. No consumption of fixed passenger costs... win for Carnival.

 

The only loss would possibly be losing the smuggler as a returning guest. And that's not really a loss.

 

I don't understand why this policy isn't more widely enforced. Seems like an easy way to make money to me.

 

Do you honestly think that someone who packs some alcohol in their luggage to drink in their stateroom doesn't buy any drinks on board? Gamble in the casino? Buy things in the shops? Buy excursions? Eat in pay restaurants?

How can you justify even thinking of putting them off the ship? Ever hear of selective enforcement?

[quickrate]

Not really. Fare forfeited... win for Carnival. Non-revenue producing passenger off the ship... a wash for Carnival. No consumption of fixed passenger costs... win for Carnival.

 

The only loss would possibly be losing the smuggler as a returning guest. And that's not really a loss.

 

I don't understand why this policy isn't more widely enforced. Seems like an easy way to make money to me.

Interestingly, most smugglers have larger bar bills than most and spend more money on the ship. In our smuggling days, our purpose was to have liquor in our room to fix drinks, not to avoid a bar bill. We loved fixing a cocktail and sit on the balcony and watch the sunset. Now we just order from Bon Voyage. The fare you pay to cruise is not where the cruiseline makes it's money-it's bar, excursions, pictures etc. It is not to Carnival's advantage to kick off revenue!!

Pat

[98Charlie]

As everyone has said: Could - Yes.. Would - No. (Talking smuggling and not underage drinking or over-consumption leading to disciplinary problems.)

 

if it's discovered as a carry on they will confiscate it. If it's not in its original container it will be disposed of. In the sealed original bottle it may or may not be held until the last day.

 

If it's found in your checked luggage you will get a note to come to the "naughty room" where your luggage will be opened in front of you. Then same scenario as with carry on.

 

Charlie

[evandbob]

I think that is more for Carnival enforcing their age limit for drinking. I've read threads on CC where a family had to leave the ship and fly home because they allowed one of their kids to drink and get trashed.

I haven't read any threads on rum runners being denied embarkation, just getting their booze taken away.

[DaytonCruiser]

if it's discovered as a carry on they will confiscate it. If it's not in its original container it will be disposed of. In the sealed original bottle it may or may not be held until the last day.

 

If it's found in your checked luggage you will get a note to come to the "naughty room" where your luggage will be opened in front of you. Then same scenario as with carry on.

 

Charlie

They changed the policy last summer to the following.

 

All liquor, beer, other forms of alcoholic and non-alcoholic beverages outside of the exceptions referenced above are strictly prohibited in both carry-on and checked luggage and such items will be confiscated and discarded and no compensation will be provided

[ajee622]

The smuggling definitely kept my tab down. Before there was the cheers program our tab was $1800 for a week vacation.

 

The thing about smuggling is you can only smuggle on booze. I like beer so I could only drink so much liquor that's why we still had a tab. Usually it was the buckets of beer.

 

 

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[Jimmy Geegitz]

We have smuggledin the past. Not since they started cheers tho. Our bar bill was still $500 WITH the smuggling. Plus shore excursions and gambling. It would cost them a lot more than the miniscule amount they would spend to feed us.

[JLee1973]

I use to smuggle but di cheers now. Bar bill abd everything else was always around $1000 even with smuggling. Buying cheers it is still around the same.

 

There are those that I know still smuggle and on my last cruise smuggling one still had a larger bar bill then myself. I don't buy the argument that smugglers don't spend money, thus that believe this have no clue.

 

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[RaiderFaninNM]

Interestingly, most smugglers have larger bar bills than most and spend more money on the ship. In our smuggling days, our purpose was to have liquor in our room to fix drinks, not to avoid a bar bill. We loved fixing a cocktail and sit on the balcony and watch the sunset. Now we just order from Bon Voyage. The fare you pay to cruise is not where the cruiseline makes it's money-it's bar, excursions, pictures etc. It is not to Carnival's advantage to kick off revenue!!

Pat

 

Now how in the heck would one know this?

[ready2cruzagain]

Thanks guys, I was wondering why someone would even take a chance at smuggling if there were a chance at getting kicked off the ship.

 

I paid way too much for my cruises to take a chance at getting kicked off of the ship for a cheap bottle of booze.

 

Just figuring if they "could" kick me off of the ship then I would be that one that "would" get kicked off of the ship for smuggling.:eek:

[hftmrock]

Thanks guys, I was wondering why someone would even take a chance at smuggling if there were a chance at getting kicked off the ship.

 

I paid way too much for my cruises to take a chance at getting kicked off of the ship for a cheap bottle of booze.

 

Just figuring if they "could" kick me off of the ship then I would be that one that "would" get kicked off of the ship for smuggling.:eek:

 

they could.... doubtful they will but the definitely could

[MCFTJCH2V]

Before anyone gets excited, I am not planning on smuggling alcohol. I never have and don't plan to start now but I have a question.

 

When I was reading the cruise contract it has a paragraph with the beverage policy. The last line of the paragraph states:

 

Guest agrees that Carnival has the right to disembark any guest who violates this policy and as well as any adults traveling with minors who violate this policy or any other shipboard regulation.

 

My question is, does this mean if they find your liquor they would or could kick you off the ship?

 

 

 

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They never have, or you would have heard about it by now.

 

I still have a 100% success rate. The biggest change allegedly is, if they find it, they will no longer give it back.

[quickrate]

Now how in the heck would one know this?

Which part? First part, I have a lot of booze smuggling friends!:D Second part, I know how much we all spend and have been in the service industry long enough to know where revenue comes from and it's not from your cruise fare.

Pat

[Havingfun2010]

If every smuggler were kicked off they would lose some serious money.

 

Not really. Carnival needs to make a certain amount of money per person, which includes the cruise cost, liquor sales and gambling. Each guest has a break even point. By kicking of those that to not pay their fair share, will leave room for those what will obey, and pay.

 

How many times on these boards to people brag that Carnival sails their ships full for every cruise? If that is the case, than a waiting line should be available to fill those slots of disgruntled people. In addition, by eliminating the smugglers and opening up those future slots, they will increase their revenue and keep the prices low for everyone else. Once word gets out, people will be a little more reluctant to break the contract. If by chance they do not fill empty rooms, than they will just raise the price. The faithful will continue to use them regardless.

[ready2cruzagain]

They never have, or you would have heard about it by now.

 

I still have a 100% success rate. The biggest change allegedly is, if they find it, they will no longer give it back.

I have never heard of anyone getting kicked off for this, was just wondering if anyone had. I guess if they had I would have read about it somewhere by now.

Edited January 7, 2016 by ready2cruzagain

[SmittyCo]

Not really. Carnival needs to make a certain amount of money per person, which includes the cruise cost, liquor sales and gambling. Each guest has a break even point. By kicking of those that to not pay their fair share, will leave room for those what will obey, and pay.

 

How many times on these boards to people brag that Carnival sails their ships full for every cruise? If that is the case, than a waiting line should be available to fill those slots of disgruntled people. In addition, by eliminating the smugglers and opening up those future slots, they will increase their revenue and keep the prices low for everyone else. Once word gets out, people will be a little more reluctant to break the contract. If by chance they do not fill empty rooms, than they will just raise the price. The faithful will continue to use them regardless.

 

Well with that rationale ... carnival would keep the teetotalers and non-gamblers off their boats! They don't make carnival any money! :D

 

A friend had her alcohol taken once ... their bar bill was the smallest during that week than any other cruise (with smuggled goods) they had been on.

[RobertYeth]

Hello everyone going on Vista, question on the 1-750ml wine/champagne bottle per adult on debarkation day...

 

I enjoy Remy 1738 Champagne Cognac, would this brand be probhibited to bring on with carryon, I know policy states wine or champagne only , but technically bottles reads champagne Cognac, any thoughts? Don't want to buy 2 bottles and to try bring on board and lose out on $100+... should I contact carnival?

[PattBenatar]

Hello everyone going on Vista, question on the 1-750ml wine/champagne bottle per adult on debarkation day...

 

I enjoy Remy 1738 Champagne Cognac, would this brand be probhibited to bring on with carryon, I know policy states wine or champagne only , but technically bottles reads champagne Cognac, any thoughts? Don't want to buy 2 bottles and to try bring on board and lose out on $100+... should I contact carnival?

 

It should not be allowed, but a call to Carnival would not hurt, I caution you IF you are told you can bring it on board, get it in writing.

 

 

From the website:

This is an authentic cognac

[Ocean Dancer]

Hello everyone going on Vista, question on the 1-750ml wine/champagne bottle per adult on debarkation day...

 

I enjoy Remy 1738 Champagne Cognac, would this brand be probhibited to bring on with carryon, I know policy states wine or champagne only , but technically bottles reads champagne Cognac, any thoughts? Don't want to buy 2 bottles and to try bring on board and lose out on $100+... should I contact carnival?

 

 

 

It should not be allowed, but a call to Carnival would not hurt, I caution you IF you are told you can bring it on board, get it in writing.

 

 

From the website:

This is an authentic cognac

What is the proof? What is the shape of the bottle? If the shape of the bottle is like all other wines, they may never open up your carry on.

[NikkiJ1983]

Do you honestly think that someone who packs some alcohol in their luggage to drink in their stateroom doesn't buy any drinks on board? Gamble in the casino? Buy things in the shops? Buy excursions? Eat in pay restaurants?

 

How can you justify even thinking of putting them off the ship? Ever hear of selective enforcement?

 

 

 

I couldn't agree with you more. We have in the past brought on some Titos Vodka however we don't drink it on the ship. We will bring it to the islands for my husband to sip on at beach clubs with his lemonade, even when drinks are included. This is because he is a Vodka snob and has a hard time drinking Shelf Vodka. I can drink shelf and/or beer so not a problem on my end. We are loyal carnival cruisers, buy the drink package, are extremely polite to other cruisers and staff, spend way too much in the casino and are over tippers. Other then bringing a bottle of Titos we are great cruisers. I don't bring wine on because I really like the stuff they have available to buy. I wish we could bring a small amount of other stuff on board. I will stop bringing Titos if we can ban the people who save 12 chairs up front at the pool and use 2 all day!!!

 

 

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