cei3 Posted May 9, 2016 #126 Share Posted May 9, 2016 And another in Puerto Vallarta a few years ago? http://todopuertovallarta.yuku.com/topic/12099/t/Cruise-ship-hits-the-dock.html#.Vy_6oTHmpZU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare LMaxwell Posted May 9, 2016 Author #127 Share Posted May 9, 2016 It didn't fail. Ship knocked it down. I did not say it failed. Sent from my B1-730HD using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skidawg79 Posted May 9, 2016 #128 Share Posted May 9, 2016 Progresso. The ramp to a Mexican navy ship fell in the water when the ship was pushed away from the pier by the thrusters on the Liberty. Thats ridiculous, the thrusters don't work on the liberty! :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorncroft Posted May 9, 2016 #129 Share Posted May 9, 2016 Thats ridiculous, the thrusters don't work on the liberty! :rolleyes: LOL. OK. :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aquahound Posted May 9, 2016 #130 Share Posted May 9, 2016 Maybe Carnival should send some people to remedial driving school.:p No kidding. Just when it seems like Carnival is getting their act together regarding ship crashing, they go and do it again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djzack67 Posted May 9, 2016 #131 Share Posted May 9, 2016 More information is slowly coming in. It appears the ship docking hit it Sent from my iPhone using Forums mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chengkp75 Posted May 9, 2016 #132 Share Posted May 9, 2016 More information is slowly coming in. It appears the ship docking hit it Sent from my iPhone using Forums mobile app Not much doubt about that. The electric motors on the ramp are designed to either electrically overload or break driveshaft shear pins when an obstruction is encountered. There isn't any way the ramp could have exerted enough force to tip itself over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hog Rider Posted May 9, 2016 #133 Share Posted May 9, 2016 Not much doubt about that. The electric motors on the ramp are designed to either electrically overload or break driveshaft shear pins when an obstruction is encountered. There isn't any way the ramp could have exerted enough force to tip itself over. The boys forgot to close the door on side of the boat. 100% captains fault. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chengkp75 Posted May 9, 2016 #134 Share Posted May 9, 2016 The boys forgot to close the door on side of the boat. 100% captains fault. That door is always open during docking and while at the dock. It is used for visual observation of the line handling, and the line tension while docked. It is the Captain's responsibility, and the ship is "at fault", but I will withhold judgement about whether the Captain is at fault until the USCG investigation is over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuthlessBoss Posted May 9, 2016 #135 Share Posted May 9, 2016 More information is slowly coming in. It appears the ship docking hit it Sent from my iPhone using Forums mobile app Of course the ship hit it or else the event wouldn't have occurred, but was the ramp in it's required position? Was the ship coming in at the correct way? Is there a standard location where it's supposed to be? It just seems strange the whole thing happened in the first place. I wonder if there were security cameras there that might have captured the event. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cr2zCr8zy Posted May 9, 2016 #136 Share Posted May 9, 2016 Praying that everyone is alright. Can you imagine the passengers waiting to get on?? Not the way you want to start your cruise vacation..:eek: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mistyinca Posted May 9, 2016 #137 Share Posted May 9, 2016 Wow! Scary stuff. I hate those gangways. If there's any type of line inside them I start to get really uneasy. Especially because it gets pretty warm in there with me being claustrophobic and all. I try not to think about it but in the back of my mind I am worried about it collapsing. It has happened before and I just don't like them. Hope no dock workers were hurt. I have never once even considered it. I probably will now... So glad no one was hurt though. I wonder how they got everyone off :confused: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinEnedy Posted May 9, 2016 #138 Share Posted May 9, 2016 The gangway had to have been extended too far. Funny. How the 4 cruises we took on the Pride didn't have the gangway set up until after the boat docked. Somebody goofed on shore I'd say. Glad nobody was hurt. They would have just docked from the lowest level with the dock like you do at some of the islands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coneyraven Posted May 9, 2016 #139 Share Posted May 9, 2016 All reports on local TV stations point to the Captain being at fault. Now what that means, I guess we'll see. Sent from my iPhone using Forums mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happy cruzin Posted May 9, 2016 #140 Share Posted May 9, 2016 I have never once even considered it. I probably will now... So glad no one was hurt though. I wonder how they got everyone off :confused: Right there with 'ya on this one!! :cool: :eek: :o Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ja_martin Posted May 9, 2016 #141 Share Posted May 9, 2016 So, who was actually "driving"? The Captain, the Staff Captain, or the Pilot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raxter54 Posted May 9, 2016 #142 Share Posted May 9, 2016 I have never once even considered it. I probably will now... So glad no one was hurt though. I wonder how they got everyone off :confused: Since I won't be on it until the ship is docked and moored, and the walkway extended and set in place. ..nope, probably not going to worry about it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maldenmusic Posted May 9, 2016 #143 Share Posted May 9, 2016 Now something else my friends who are afraid to cruise will add to their reasons why.:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare jimbo5544 Posted May 9, 2016 #144 Share Posted May 9, 2016 Now something else my friends who are afraid to cruise will add to their reasons why.:D Tell them as long as they are not standing on the gangway as the ship pulls in, all will be fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaniceB Posted May 9, 2016 #145 Share Posted May 9, 2016 Happy to hear no one was hurt. Saw this on the local news this morning. I had to stop by here to gather some more information. I guess it took a while to get everyone off through another exit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firemanbobswife Posted May 9, 2016 #146 Share Posted May 9, 2016 Tell them as long as they are not standing on the gangway as the ship pulls in, all will be fine. Well this is the one that I was referring to. I still hate them. http://www.cbsnews.com/news/luxury-liner-death-toll-hits-15/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aquahound Posted May 9, 2016 #147 Share Posted May 9, 2016 So, who was actually "driving"? The Captain, the Staff Captain, or the Pilot? The pilot does not drive the ship. The Captain is almost always at the controls when docking. Even if he's not, he's still the one responsible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare jimbo5544 Posted May 9, 2016 #148 Share Posted May 9, 2016 Well this is the one that I was referring to. I still hate them. http://www.cbsnews.com/news/luxury-liner-death-toll-hits-15/ Wow, I had forgotten about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raxter54 Posted May 9, 2016 #149 Share Posted May 9, 2016 Well this is the one that I was referring to. I still hate them. http://www.cbsnews.com/news/luxury-liner-death-toll-hits-15/ From reading the article, it seems to me what collapsed was a temporary gangway /gang plank built at the shipyard for workers to access the ship, not the more permanent gangway used at passenger cruise terminals. If someone can reference an incident where one of these collapsed, without the assistance of a multi-thousand ton cruise ship, then I might worry... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare jimbo5544 Posted May 9, 2016 #150 Share Posted May 9, 2016 From reading the article, it seems to me what collapsed was a temporary gangway /gang plank built at the shipyard for workers to access the ship, not the more permanent gangway used at passenger cruise terminals. If someone can reference an incident where one of these collapsed, without the assistance of a multi-thousand ton cruise ship, then I might worry... I believe you are correct, it was workers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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