Can't bring soda on board anymore

[SeaShark]

USA Today published their article on this at 7:55 this morning. So far, the comment count is at "4".

 

THAT is going to get NCL's attention for sure.

[AquaMarineFerret]

Next:

 

4 rolls of toilet paper $24.99 30% off

8 rolls 39.99 40% off

12 rolls (best value) 49.99 over 55% off

 

Note these are pre cruise prices and do not include 18% service charge for your convenience.

 

You are not permitted to bring your own on board as someone may try and use it to make a "dirty bomb".

 

Happy sailing

 

Prices quoted above are for 1 Ply . Prices for 2 ply - if you have to ask , you can't afford it .

 

(Sixth form schoolboy s******) Nice! :D

 

Another image that formed in my mind was the dark and nefarious black market activities in dim recesses of NCL ships as those with doctors' notes sell off surplus distilled water at a modest profit. Yes, I know, unworthy of me. I'll get my coat... :o

[Frick_&_Frack]

USA Today published their article on this at 7:55 this morning. So far, the comment count is at "4".

 

THAT is going to get NCL's attention for sure.

 

Not many people read USA Today. And, I did try to comment earlier today; but couldn't access it to comment. I figured that would be something to do tonight. :D

[WK-Orlando]

Most of the lines are good about the distilled water but, as a backup, I just repurpose a small water bottle, label it distilled, and put it in my carry on with the CPAP. Just enough for a night or two. By then, you will have it. The ships actually us a lot of distilled water in various departments so never been in a situation that it was not aboard.

 

Years ago, they did not get usual supplies and they brought it to me from the medical center supplies...

[takeadip]

this whole "no bringing water/ booze on board is gaining a ton of traction in the national news...i cant wait till the late night talk shows this week have some fun with it...its a big money grab...how dare they say its security related...that is a bunch of bullchip...

 

People have free choice and i feel this may make them choose a different cruise line...

[swedish weave]

USA Today published their article on this at 7:55 this morning. So far, the comment count is at "4".

 

THAT is going to get NCL's attention for sure.

 

Maybe one of the CC posters told USA Today that their article was the stupidest thing that had ever been printed (along with a line of HAHAHAHAHA's.)

 

I would quote the original of that comment if I could find it !!!! lol Bill

[denatravels]

No its not! Water is free. Just bring your own water bottle.

 

 

There are rumors that it isn't going to be allowed.

 

 

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[ano]

Cruise lines only pay attention to one thing: money. If you are unhappy with this policy switch to another line without this policy and tell your TA why. If their customers drop, and they can attribute it to this change, they may change their policy back. I for one have never paid for luggage on a plane, and you can probably guess which airline I fly. Complaining will do nothing but hitting them where it really counts, their wallets, and you may see change.

[takeadip]

the real news is how much they are charging passengers for a case of water...i think at last check it was like $78 dollars for a 24 pack of water that big box retailers charge $2.99 for.

 

I hope someone would alert the media!!!

[Zoey]

Just on principle, if I can find a substitute cruise out of MIA or FTL in November, I may just cancel my Getaway cruise for another cruise line altogether and tell the CS representative the reason. I already have air booked for a specific week so I can't cancel without a substitution. But then again, the more I think about it.......I wonder if the agents you cancel with even report the reasons for a cancellation? Probably not.

[RJ2002]

We bring wine onboard occasionally, but not non-alcoholic beverages. This decision would not impact us.

[gothicreader]

So I did some checking with my last cruise with PCL this past December. We bought the unlimited soda & more packages that includes mocktails, juices, and hot chocolate for $8.05 per day/per person. You know how much their 12 pack bottled water is ? $6 per person.

 

 

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[gothicreader]

never heard anything from my big name travel agent but I got my email directly from NCL yesterday informing me of this change. I will be requesting my TA to demand a bar credit since this change was made after final payment. I always take a sealed case of water and 1 sealed case of soda. This will be an interesting topic on formal night with the Captain.

 

 

 

We paid before we got our email too. Let me know how it goes since we'd like to do the same.

 

 

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[Crusin6]

never heard anything from my big name travel agent but I got my email directly from NCL yesterday informing me of this change. I will be requesting my TA to demand a bar credit since this change was made after final payment. I always take a sealed case of water and 1 sealed case of soda. This will be an interesting topic on formal night with the Captain.

 

 

And make sure the bar credit will cover ncls most expensive water package.

 

 

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[Crusin6]

We paid before we got our email too. Let me know how it goes since we'd like to do the same.

 

 

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As posted previously....you can always reduce the dsc by what they charge you for water if getting a credit doesn't work

 

 

As an added benefit....ncl will not only be dealing with disgruntled pax but disgruntled crew as well

 

Especially when the crew "incentives" are reduced due to reducing dsc....but somehow I don't think crew will lose anything

 

 

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[C&F]

Just found out my TA is kicking up more OBC as a result of water issue. I'm more than ok with ship water. He got me a mini suite for an outside cabin price. I'll shell out a few bucks for some water bottles. I only need bottled water on the islands. Probably cheaper in a store than getting off the ship.

 

 

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[pizzaman1343]

As a big Diet Coke and bottled water drinker, I made the cutoff by 5 days as I sail this Sunday. Most people drink coffee for breakfast but I drink a diet coke for breakfast.

[Crusin6]

Cruise lines only pay attention to one thing: money. If you are unhappy with this policy switch to another line without this policy and tell your TA why. If their customers drop, and they can attribute it to this change, they may change their policy back. I for one have never paid for luggage on a plane, and you can probably guess which airline I fly. Complaining will do nothing but hitting them where it really counts, their wallets, and you may see change.

 

 

Or reduce dsc ....ncl WILL notice that faster than they will know or care about where you book your 2018 cruise

 

 

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[xriva]

this whole "no bringing water/ booze on board is gaining a ton of traction in the national news...i cant wait till the late night talk shows this week have some fun with it...its a big money grab...how dare they say its security related...that is a bunch of bullchip...

 

People have free choice and i feel this may make them choose a different cruise line...

 

Two articles in different travel sections is hardly a "ton of traction." I really doubt anyone cares that much. Fox reported it because USA Today did - and Fox got it wrong ("You can't bring beer onboard any more".)

 

I would think the late night people would find some quotes funny:

 

"They don't have MY water available onboard, so now I can't cruise with them."

(this should be an entry for "Overheard in Whole Foods".)

 

They could also show people where are their "deleted" posts are located on FB since some can't seem to find the "Visitors Posts" link on the side of the page.

 

First-world problems are actually quite funny.

 

The reality is that you have:

• People who can't afford to cruise. (Doesn't affect them. Norwegian doesn't care.)
  
• People who can afford it, but choose not to cruise. (Doesn't affect them. Norwegian doesn't care.)
  
• People who have CAS or UBP and drink whatever (Doesn't affect them. Norwegian doesn't care.)
  
• People who drink the included beverages or just buy an occasional soda or bottled water. (Doesn't affect them. Norwegian doesn't care.)
  
• People who didn't know you could bring drinks onboard (Doesn't affect them. Norwegian doesn't care.)
  
• People who won't sail Norwegian because it sucks and want "proof". (Affects them. They're not customers. Norwegian doesn't care.)
  
• People who like complaining. (Affects them greatly. Norwegian doesn't care. They're going to find something to complain about.)
  
• People who don't like Pepsi, water, juices, coffee or tea. (Affects them. Norwegian doesn't care, unless it's a medical condition. Get a note. Problem solved.)
  
• People who won't drink tap water. (Affects them. Buy a $15 filtered, reusable water bottle. Fill it in the buffet. Fill it in your room. Problem solved. Norwegian doesn't care.)
  
• People who can only drink water bottled from the Ganges (or Mississippi, whatever.) (Affects them. Get a doctor's note. Problem solved.)
  
• People who can barely afford cruising, and need to bring cheap drinks with them. (Affects them. Norwegian doesn't care.)
  

 

So, for all the 50+ pages of ongoing discussion, there are very few groups that I see are actually impacted by the rule. Very few of those groups probably matter to Norwegian. I'm sure I'll get slammed for this, but it's the reality. If you can barely afford to cruise, I don't think any cruise line wants you onboard - they get you onboard so you can spend more money, and that's where their profit lies. (See Cruise, Inc.) That's why ships have casinos, bingo, bars and restaurants.

[triptolemus]

As posted previously....you can always reduce the dsc by what they charge you for water if getting a credit doesn't work

 

 

As an added benefit....ncl will not only be dealing with disgruntled pax but disgruntled crew as well

 

Especially when the crew "incentives" are reduced due to reducing dsc....but somehow I don't think crew will lose anything

 

 

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Are you high? That's like the fifth time you've posted that drivel. Why would the crew be disgruntled if they aren't losing anything. I don't care what you do with the DSC, but this statement you keep posting makes no sense.

[Crusin6]

Lately NCL has not exactly been the winner on price and after the last couple a yawn cruises, my family was not exactly making them a priority in our searches. After this little stunt, we are just going to drop them altogether. Def a $$$ issue with them. I do not drink alcohol or much soda, so the canned tea drinks (go Arizona!) I carry on are the only thing I have outside of water which I just take in the buffet. If this is enough money for them to play this game, will take my money elsewhere.

 

 

 

If everyone remembers the interview that their CEO did awhile back on the news (long story) he was very clear that the bar was a major revenue source and basically let it be known that non-power drinkers were not very desirable customers.

 

 

 

Think the other lines are going to watch the fall out on this to see if they will copy it. If you are sailing NCL anytime outside of the cancellation penalty window and can move to another line, DO IT, as a community service to all cruisers. Mass cancellations are the only message these companies understand. If enough people drop them, all of the lines will think twice about this BS. If the real reason is the concern over the employees slinging overly heavy bags full of bottled water (like these companies care about staff...), make the price of water on the ship reasonable. I would pay more onboard just to not have to mess with packing it but I will not pay 'bar' prices for water on a cruise. Should be able to pre-order a case of it for no more than double the supermarket price.

 

 

Yep...the interview was with Andy Stuart

 

He said they know down to the drink how many they need to sell to turn a profit

 

 

Not sure how free ubp plays in all of this other than the obvious increase in price when free ubp is offered and the 18% helps too

 

 

There are of course those that do pay for wine and alcohol of course

 

 

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[Crusin6]

Are you high? That's like the fifth time you've posted that drivel. Why would the crew be disgruntled if they aren't losing anything. I don't care what you do with the DSC, but this statement you keep posting makes no sense.

 

 

Nope you just won't ever agree with my posts...

 

 

Personally I don't think it will impact the crew at all....but....

 

To appease the bleeding hearts that are so worried about the crew....I throw out a bone....and if perhaps ncl does in fact reduce their "incentives" it will only help us the pax

 

 

But let me be clear for YOU.....I only post that because I know posters here are sooo concerned about crew getting stiffed...so I post that to make them feel warm and fuzzy

 

 

Fwiw....I don't believe reducing dsc affects anyone...from the steward to the knob polisher

 

 

But reducing dsc WILL get ncl to notice...BIG TIME....

 

Saying you will book elsewhere won't get them to notice because that's all hypothetical in the future

 

,asking ncl send you a $59 check back is real time....and they will notice

 

 

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[blackwing]

this whole "no bringing water/ booze on board is gaining a ton of traction in the national news...i cant wait till the late night talk shows this week have some fun with it...its a big money grab...how dare they say its security related...that is a bunch of bullchip...

 

People have free choice and i feel this may make them choose a different cruise line...

I googled and saw an article on USA Today, and one on Fox News. I wouldn't consider this traction at all and I doubt late night talk shows would even "have some fun" with this.

 

When I was a kid, I always thought taking a cruise was one of those things that only insanely wealthy people could afford. Now that I am old, I realise that it is actually a fairly affordable vacation. But I wouldn't exactly say it's common for middle America. For many families, a vacation is getting in the car and driving three hours to a relative's house.

 

If anything, late night talk show hosts would make fun of the hoity toity attitudes of cruisers who can't believe that a company is trying to make money.

[blackwing]

I just received a voice mail on my cell from someone at NCL responding to my email to Andy Stuart over the weekend.

 

The lady clearly did NOT read the contents of my email since she kept pausing throughout her message trying to figure out what to say and simply stated I can purchase the bottled water once I'm onboard.

 

Had they actually read my email, they would have seen that I advised them that I cannot drink just any bottled water due to medical reasons and why would they risk a passenger's health?

 

OK.... I'll bite. What kind of bottled water do you require? It never occurred to me that some bottled waters are undrinkable to some. Not trying to be rude, but I just didn't know if there's a difference between good old Ice Mountain / Poland Spring / Arrowhead or distilled water or Evian or Fiji or whatnot in terms of health reasons.

[restasured]

Interesting observation as the thread reaches 1,000 replies...

 

 

We all know that Cruise Critic Members represent a very small fraction of the cruising public....1,410,419 members at this time. Out of those 1.4m members, only 24,390 have cared enough to post anything on the forums. And of those 24,390 people who care enough to post, only 285 were moved to post on this thread.

 

285.

 

If we were all on the Escape right now, we would only represent 7% of the folks onboard. Really...a small minority of people complaining...yet, because we are on the same forum, we get the Internet provided illusion that "everyone" feels the same way we do.

 

285.

 

At this very moment there are probably 36,000+ guests actually onboard NCL ships.

 

 

NCL has to care about all of their shareholders...all of their guests...somehow I don't think a policy change that only irks 285 people is going to be the huge concern that we think it is. Too bad we weren't complaining about the "outrageous" price of water before this....:(

 

There was no real need to complain about the cost of water before. You could bring your own aboard. The numbers you cite are "statistically", probably, accurate, but you can be there will bet that there are a whole lot more people that will be complaining and will likely show there disliking the policy in not booking future cruises. I know I have cruised NCL, RCCL, CCL and Princess and none more than the others, but as long as this policy is in effect I will not be booking on NCL. I have seen way too many "changes" that cost the customer more and more and I will use my money for what I consider the better option.