Oasis of the Seas Incident

[ColoradoGurl]

Is there dirt at bottom of ocean?

 

I figured it was sand and silt.

 

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It's like whale **** and crushed up bones from old pirates

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[constable145]

Are the doctors able to determine cause of death on a ship? I imagine not, and any determination would have to be performed by a coroner when the ship returned, meaning the cabin would need to be sealed regardless...

 

 

Cause of death is often not determined at the scene of the death but in a medical exam room.

 

Once the scene has been secured, photographed, evidence collected etc it can often be released.

[Big_G]

Are the doctors able to determine cause of death on a ship? I imagine not, and any determination would have to be performed by a coroner when the ship returned, meaning the cabin would need to be sealed regardless...

 

If the person has an extensive medical history or is being treated for a terminal disease, many jurisdictions will allow the person's treating physician to sign the death certificate if there are no suspicious circumstance thereby eliminating an examination by the personal physician, a coroner, or medical examiner. I suspect that the majority of on-board deaths fall into those categories but the procedure probably varies depending on where the deceased is off loaded. Maybe Aquahound could shed some light on that.

[JamesEM]

I was on a "sold out cruise" this past Nov and the cabin became uninhabitable due to a sewage spill and was move to another cabin of the sane category.

[Cuizer2]

I was on a "sold out cruise" this past Nov and the cabin became uninhabitable due to a sewage spill and was move to another cabin of the sane category.

 

A cruise can be sold out and still have empty cabins. A ship cannot exceed its lifeboat capacity. If all the beds in the three and four person cabins are filled, it is possible that the life boat capacity will be exceeded even if there are empty cabins.

[vamommyof3]

I read an interesting article about Oasis of the Sea's saying there are not enough life boats for a sold out ship + crew members. Apparently crew members would have to use this shute and go in to a raft not a boat :confused: The article was on the website we aren't allowed to talk about....the one that has the word law in it. ;p

[tatt2ed]

A cruise can be sold out and still have empty cabins. A ship cannot exceed its lifeboat capacity. If all the beds in the three and four person cabins are filled, it is possible that the life boat capacity will be exceeded even if there are empty cabins.

Completely false. The life boat quantitity is set with the ships max capacity. Max capacity is if every cabin and every bed is filled 100% of the time.

But the real question is how do they fit a buffet in a life boat ? People would freak out if they would have to go more than 2hrs without food.

[Flymia]

Every cruise ship does.

 

Even some long haul airliners have them too.

[Cuizer2]

Completely false. The life boat quantitity is set with the ships max capacity. Max capacity is if every cabin and every bed is filled 100% of the time.

But the real question is how do they fit a buffet in a life boat ? People would freak out if they would have to go more than 2hrs without food.

 

The rule is that the capacity of the lifeboats must exceed the number of people on board (not the number of beds).

[Thetrail]

I'm on oasis of the seas now and we had an emergency incident where both sides of floor 8 was closed. Does anyone know what happened?

We had heard something about a jumper. However, it seems to have been a inside balcony one level above Johnny Rockets. And now they have a padlock on the cabin. Since we are currently in the middle of the ocean, I assume the family was not escorted off the ship.

This sounds somewhat foolish....you are on the ship asking this why?.....:rolleyes:

[tatt2ed]

The rule is that the capacity of the lifeboats must exceed the number of people on board (not the number of beds).

So there are people that dont have beds but theres a lifeboat for them ? I kinda thought places to sleep and lifeboat spots went hand in hand. But then again vampires wouldnt need a bed since they could sleep in a closet or hang upside down from a pipe

 

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[Cuizer2]

So there are people that dont have beds but theres a lifeboat for them ? I kinda thought places to sleep and lifeboat spots went hand in hand. But then again vampires wouldnt need a bed since they could sleep in a closet or hang upside down from a pipe

 

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As I said, a ship can be sold out and still have an empty cabin because the passenger capacity of the lifeboats has been exceeded. There are not any passengers without beds, but there might be beds without passengers.

 

Another rule is that each side of the ship must have enough lifeboat capacity for at least 50% of the passengers (not 50% of the beds) and that the life raft capacity must exceed 50% of all the people on the ship (which includes the crew).

 

Has an news source ever report how many beds were lost because a ship sunk?

[Cuizer2]

I was on the Explorer of the Seas when a rouge wave damaged two of the lifeboats ...

 

 

 

 

The cruise was allowed to continue because the ship had enough lifeboat capacity for all the passengers on the ship, even though with the loss of the two lifeboats the number of beds exceeded the lifeboat capacity.

[JDR1986]

I was on the Explorer of the Seas when a rouge wave damaged two of the lifeboats ...

 

 

 

 

The cruise was allowed to continue because the ship had enough lifeboat capacity for all the passengers on the ship, even though with the loss of the two lifeboats the number of beds exceeded the lifeboat capacity.

 

 

When did this happen?

[Clarea]

When did this happen?

I believe it was late 2014 when Explorer was re-positioning from Bayonne to Port Canaveral.

[Cuizer2]

When did this happen?

 

Early in the morning of November 2, 2014.

 

Bob is correct, is was the repo cruise. No people or bed were injured. However, some water came inside the ship via the nearby doors, and the elevators were taken out of service until the electricians could certify that the elevators were safe to operate.

[tatt2ed]

As I said, a ship can be sold out and still have an empty cabin because the passenger capacity of the lifeboats has been exceeded. There are not any passengers without beds, but there might be beds without passengers.

 

Another rule is that each side of the ship must have enough lifeboat capacity for at least 50% of the passengers (not 50% of the beds) and that the life raft capacity must exceed 50% of all the people on the ship (which includes the crew).

 

Has an news source ever report how many beds were lost because a ship sunk?

A ship will not be allowed to sail if there are more passengers than lifeboats. Do you work for white star or what ?

 

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[tatt2ed]

A ships max capacity is set by all berths being occupied , nothing is said about lifeboats but it sure as the day is long mention oasis of the seas.

 

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[tatt2ed]

Berth is a bed for all us landlubbers

 

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[voyager70]

Early in the morning of November 2, 2014.

 

Bob is correct, is was the repo cruise. No people or bed were injured. However, some water came inside the ship via the nearby doors, and the elevators were taken out of service until the electricians could certify that the elevators were safe to operate.

 

I wonder what would have happened if there hadn't been enough lifeboat capacity after the two were damaged? Would they have asked for volunteers to leave at the next port and get a full refund? End the cruise at the next port altogether? And what would happen if lifeboats were damaged while in the middle of the ocean (say TA or TP),days from land, not enough capacity left, and there was no alternative but to proceed at sea? I know this is highly unlikely but it could happen!

[Cuizer2]

A ship will not be allowed to sail if there are more passengers than lifeboats. Do you work for white star or what ?

 

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Read the post again. I said that the lifeboat capacity must exceed the number of passengers.

[Cuizer2]

A ships max capacity is set by all berths being occupied , nothing is said about lifeboats but it sure as the day is long mention oasis of the seas.

 

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Berth is a bed for all us landlubbers

 

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It is clear that you are not familiar with SOLIS. The ship many not carry more passengers than it has lifeboats for - period.

[Cuizer2]

I wonder what would have happened if there hadn't been enough lifeboat capacity after the two were damaged? Would they have asked for volunteers to leave at the next port and get a full refund? End the cruise at the next port altogether? And what would happen if lifeboats were damaged while in the middle of the ocean (say TA or TP),days from land, not enough capacity left, and there was no alternative but to proceed at sea? I know this is highly unlikely but it could happen!

 

The Explorer of the Seas left NJ on Nov 1, 2014. We did not arrive at our first port until Nov 5, 2014 (there were three full days at sea). We were in the middle of the Atlantic when the lifeboats were damaged. I assume the ship would have changed course and headed to the nearest port if the lifeboat capacity had dropped below the number of passengers.

[tatt2ed]

You stated the lifeboat capacity has been exceeded. That can and will NEVER happen, EVER. a ship will not be allowed to sail with more passengers than lifeboat capacity.

 

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[tatt2ed]

There are also life rafts too in addition to life boats for that very reason if a boat is damaged or cannot be accessed.

 

Im pretty sure we are agreeing on the fact a ship cant sail with out enough life safety measures in place

 

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