sidari Posted January 24, 2018 #1 Share Posted January 24, 2018 Black card holders, here is the latest from the online terms and conditions via the UK website regarding the Spumante and Strawberries and also the complimentary meal. • Complimentary Speciality Restaurant “Tasting Menu” Dinner (no beverages)[black] per cabin. Members are entitled to enjoy a tasting menu dinner for 2 at aspeciality restaurant once during the cruise (beverages excluded). Members mayextend their invitation to one occupant of the same cabin only once and only if the cabin mate is not a black card member. Privilege and speciality restaurants may not be available on all ship classes. Privilege is not available if the members decidesto eat dinner at self-service buffet. Members under 18 must be accompanied inorder to enjoy the privilege.• Complimentary Spumante with chocolate-dipped fruit [black], per cabin andonce per cruise. Privilege not available for members under 18 years old.• Complimentary Dancing Class [black] All Black members can enjoy a free one-hour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calgaryhhr Posted January 24, 2018 #2 Share Posted January 24, 2018 That is a strange condition. Why would it matter what status the guest is? So if two black card members travel together only one person can go have a free dinner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Beamafar Posted January 24, 2018 #3 Share Posted January 24, 2018 That is a strange condition. Why would it matter what status the guest is? So if two black card members travel together only one person can go have a free dinner. No, both can go to dinner together. Neither are "extending the invitation" to the other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calgaryhhr Posted January 24, 2018 #4 Share Posted January 24, 2018 No, both can go to dinner together. Neither are "extending the invitation" to the other. But according to those terms it is one dinner for two per cabin and the member who redeems the dinner can not extend the invitation to another black card member. So in theory, a black card member would have to dine alone. The other statement that is in there is weird too. If you decide to dine in the buffet you can't use the black card dinner? Who comes up with these terms at MSC? I wonder if they put together the terms in Italian and the translation to English gets messed up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Beamafar Posted January 24, 2018 #5 Share Posted January 24, 2018 But according to those terms it is one dinner for two per cabin and the member who redeems the dinner can not extend the invitation to another black card member. So in theory, a black card member would have to dine alone. The other statement that is in there is weird too. If you decide to dine in the buffet you can't use the black card dinner? Who comes up with these terms at MSC? I wonder if they put together the terms in Italian and the translation to English gets messed up. Yeah ............. I can't, for the life of me, work out what the buffet has to do with it. :confused: We're descending further down the rabbit-hole, now. That's for sure! :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Beamafar Posted January 24, 2018 #6 Share Posted January 24, 2018 We're in for some serious fun n' games should a new, higher tier be introduced and the benefits on the lower tiers get further reduced as a result. :eek: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidari Posted January 24, 2018 Author #7 Share Posted January 24, 2018 So far no response from MSC UK on this latest MSC riddle me free ... :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Beamafar Posted January 24, 2018 #8 Share Posted January 24, 2018 Dave, I had to contact the clubcard section a couple of weeks ago to have the bonus points added to our accounts. It took them a couple of days to respond. Did you receive an automated email response? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidari Posted January 24, 2018 Author #9 Share Posted January 24, 2018 No auto response as I sent it to PP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Beamafar Posted January 24, 2018 #10 Share Posted January 24, 2018 No auto response as I sent it to PP. Enough said! I'd emailed her to follow up on a cock-up made by her on a booking I had. She passed the email from me on to Stuart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helenb Posted January 24, 2018 #11 Share Posted January 24, 2018 It sounds to me like MSC is restricting the free dinner to 1 per cabin, even if there are 2 black card passengers in the cabin. However, if there are others in the cabin (3rd and 4th passengers, such as children) they may come with the Black Card members for the free dinner. I believe that is the point of the 'guest may not be a Black Card member' language. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Beamafar Posted January 24, 2018 #12 Share Posted January 24, 2018 As I said on another thread, it's Jesuitical language to hide the fact that they are now restricting the benefit to 1 evening for 2 per cabin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidari Posted January 24, 2018 Author #13 Share Posted January 24, 2018 (edited) I think they have realised that it is costing them too much due to the status match at black card level and have decided to penalise everyone including those who have earned their Black card status. There is no other reason for this nonsense. The point is that points earned are per person and not per cabin! Edited January 24, 2018 by sidari Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nw_man Posted January 25, 2018 #14 Share Posted January 25, 2018 Hi guys, We are black card members and just got off Divina. We got 2 invitations for 2 people, so we chose to go to the speciality restaurant once and take 2 friends who are both NOT black card holders. We had zero problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Beamafar Posted January 25, 2018 #15 Share Posted January 25, 2018 Why was I not surprised that the ship in question is Divina?! How many bottles of bubbly did you get? (Sorry if it seems like there's a tone - I don't begrudge you in the least! :) Just p****d at the inconsistencies across the fleet). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Beamafar Posted January 25, 2018 #16 Share Posted January 25, 2018 The point is that points earned are per person and not per cabin! Well said, Dave! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidari Posted January 25, 2018 Author #17 Share Posted January 25, 2018 Bea ... I have pointed out this little missed issue to them, let's see how long it takes to respond, if in fact they do! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rojojacko Posted January 25, 2018 #18 Share Posted January 25, 2018 Just a thought! If I, as a black card holder, take my wife, also a black card holder, to a specialist restaurant with my invite and we enjoy our meal. What's to stop my wife taking me as her guest with her invite a few days later. On previous occasions I don't recall them checking both of our cards, just one when it came to settling the drinks bill, or not as we always upgrade to a drinks package. We're on Fantasia at the end of next month and will probably do that if we don't take our friends with us to dine. Rob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Beamafar Posted January 25, 2018 #19 Share Posted January 25, 2018 Apparently, there is only one invitation being issued per cabin. Once you use this, the ship's system will record that the benefit has been used by the cabin in question. I intend to find out more on my next cruise in 9 weeks time. Sent from my SM-G935F using Forums mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisterBill99 Posted January 26, 2018 #20 Share Posted January 26, 2018 Just a thought! If I, as a black card holder, take my wife, also a black card holder, to a specialist restaurant with my invite and we enjoy our meal. What's to stop my wife taking me as her guest with her invite a few days later. On previous occasions I don't recall them checking both of our cards, just one when it came to settling the drinks bill, or not as we always upgrade to a drinks package. We're on Fantasia at the end of next month and will probably do that if we don't take our friends with us to dine. Rob At least one person has reported that this worked on Seaside. Apparently the offer was on both cards, even if only a single card was given out. Of course, YMMV on it working. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suzyed Posted January 26, 2018 #21 Share Posted January 26, 2018 That is a strange condition. Why would it matter what status the guest is? So if two black card members travel together only one person can go have a free dinner. Yup! It used to be that you each got a free dinner and brought your cabin mate with you...2 dinners for 2! Now it says "one per cabin". That was not the case when we booked nor was it the case on Divina, and they changed it just recently. Not feeling good about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suzyed Posted January 26, 2018 #22 Share Posted January 26, 2018 Yeah ............. I can't, for the life of me, work out what the buffet has to do with it. :confused: We're descending further down the rabbit-hole, now. That's for sure! :rolleyes: No kidding! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisterBill99 Posted January 26, 2018 #23 Share Posted January 26, 2018 I think they have realised that it is costing them too much due to the status match at black card level and have decided to penalise everyone including those who have earned their Black card status. Yeah, they made a generous offer and got lots of frequent cruisers from other lines to take advantage of it AND book cruises that they might not have otherwise. Then they decide the offer was too sweet so they start chipping away at it. That's really going to make these new customers want to return to MSC for a second cruise (not). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asctony Posted January 26, 2018 #24 Share Posted January 26, 2018 Yup! It used to be that you each got a free dinner and brought your cabin mate with you...2 dinners for 2!Now it says "one per cabin". That was not the case when we booked nor was it the case on Divina, and they changed it just recently. Not feeling good about that. We were on the Divina in Nov 2017 and it was PER BLACK CARD (2 meals), not per cabin. So, we are both Black Card and went to 2 Specialty Restaurants and each had a free meal both times. Eataly Steakhouse and Galaxy. Will find out next week as we are back on Divina. Wish us luck. !!!! LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tallyho8 Posted January 26, 2018 #25 Share Posted January 26, 2018 This is what the US website has on it now: Complimentary Specialty Restaurant Dinner for two (no beverages) [One dinner per stateroom]Complimentary spumante with chocolate-dipped fruit in stateroom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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