grsnovi Posted July 10, 2018 #1 Share Posted July 10, 2018 Just as an airline seat over the wings evens out air turbulence, so too will a stateroom amidships even out rough seas. We been blessed with fair seas on all of our cruises - all of which have been on smaller ships than Bliss. I'm looking at an aft stateroom on Bliss for the 9/30 repo out of Vancouver. I've never sailed south along the west coast so I'm not certain what is typical but I'm wondering if an aft cabin on a 168 ton vessel is going to be affected much if seas are unusual. Not sure if I should opt for a cabin amidships or go with the aft. Thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zqvol Posted July 10, 2018 #2 Share Posted July 10, 2018 If there are large seas and wind it doesn't matter where you are the ship will be moving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1AL Posted July 10, 2018 #3 Share Posted July 10, 2018 Just as an airline seat over the wings evens out air turbulence, so too will a stateroom amidships even out rough seas. We been blessed with fair seas on all of our cruises - all of which have been on smaller ships than Bliss. I'm looking at an aft stateroom on Bliss for the 9/30 repo out of Vancouver. I've never sailed south along the west coast so I'm not certain what is typical but I'm wondering if an aft cabin on a 168 ton vessel is going to be affected much if seas are unusual. Not sure if I should opt for a cabin amidships or go with the aft. Thoughts? lmao....rofl...thanks for the laughs...are you sure on the first, let alone, perhaps you left a few ZEROS out on the second? lmao...lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Captain-John Posted July 10, 2018 #4 Share Posted July 10, 2018 Another thing to consider when aft is vibration from the props when docking etc. If this would bother you I'd avoid aft. But the ship will move regardless of its displacement depending on the sea state. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1AL Posted July 10, 2018 #5 Share Posted July 10, 2018 If there are large seas and wind it doesn't matter where you are the ship will be moving. This keeps getting better and better! Yes, the sea sometimes is small and sometimes it is large! :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:......lmao Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grsnovi Posted July 10, 2018 Author #6 Share Posted July 10, 2018 ...perhaps you left a few ZEROS out... You're indeed correct although I had intended to insert a "k" following the 168. Big ooops! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1AL Posted July 10, 2018 #7 Share Posted July 10, 2018 You're indeed correct although I had intended to insert a "k" following the 168. Big ooops! make that a Capital K..............lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david_sobe Posted July 10, 2018 #8 Share Posted July 10, 2018 When I saw this thread "Over the wings" I thought it was going to be a complaint about the chicken wings ;p Can you tell its dinner time and I'm hungry ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlayCousin Posted July 10, 2018 #9 Share Posted July 10, 2018 I also thought this was going to be a thread about chicken wings. Lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maniacal Cruiser Posted July 10, 2018 #10 Share Posted July 10, 2018 make that a Capital K..............lol. Lower case was actually correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare martincath Posted July 11, 2018 #11 Share Posted July 11, 2018 make that a Capital K..............lol. Interesting that you're mocking someone for using the common nautical term of 'large seas' but you want to measure the displacement of a vessel in degrees Kelvin, used for measuring temperature...? Maybe check your SI units before activating pedant mode again... OP - large seas/high wave amplitude/heavy weather/big waves or whatever you want to call them, fancy or simple, are very normal for any California Coastal cruise in fall. Even passing by the area of the Columbia Bar tends to make for a bouncy ride, let alone crossing it - we had a high forward cabin on a southbound late Sep coastal (free upgrade that in hindsight I wish I'd refused!) and passing the Bar was the worst nights sleep I've had on any vessel in my life (I slept like a baby through a force 9 gale on the Bay of Biscay on a much smaller ship without stabilizers). Since you seem to have the option, I'd be booking as low and central a cabin as you can get if ship movement is a concern for you. Bliss might be heavy, and I'm sure it's built legal, but it's a huge boxy beast rather than a cruise liner - once it gets rolling it will be very noticeable, especially high up and front or back! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chengkp75 Posted July 11, 2018 #12 Share Posted July 11, 2018 And regardless of which "k" you use to denote "thousand", just remember that that GT figure is not the "displacement" (or weight) of the ship, just a unitless measure of internal volume, that has no direct correlation to its actual enclosed volume. I would be surprised if Bliss' displacement was over 70,000 tons. Comparing airplane motion to ship motion is silly. Air turbulence does not travel in waves like the sea does, and most airplane motion is vibration or bouncing. Yes, midships will reduce the pitching motion, but the rolling will be the same. Aft cabins on ships with azipods may experience the "azipod shimmy", a side to side horizontal motion (not a rolling, more of a yaw), but this is dependent on course, speed, sea direction, sea period, wind, etc. It is caused by the azipods tracking back and forth to keep heading, causing "sweeping" of the water flow into/out of the propellers across the flat hull above the pods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
united retiree Posted July 11, 2018 #13 Share Posted July 11, 2018 And regardless of which "k" you use to denote "thousand", just remember that that GT figure is not the "displacement" (or weight) of the ship, just a unitless measure of internal volume, that has no direct correlation to its actual enclosed volume. I would be surprised if Bliss' displacement was over 70,000 tons. Comparing airplane motion to ship motion is silly. Air turbulence does not travel in waves like the sea does, and most airplane motion is vibration or bouncing. Yes, midships will reduce the pitching motion, but the rolling will be the same. Aft cabins on ships with azipods may experience the "azipod shimmy", a side to side horizontal motion (not a rolling, more of a yaw), but this is dependent on course, speed, sea direction, sea period, wind, etc. It is caused by the azipods tracking back and forth to keep heading, causing "sweeping" of the water flow into/out of the propellers across the flat hull above the pods. Is there an answer in there somewhere? Sent from my SM-J727T using Forums mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare BirdTravels Posted July 11, 2018 #14 Share Posted July 11, 2018 Another thing to consider when aft is vibration from the props when docking etc. If this would bother you I'd avoid aft. But the ship will move regardless of its displacement depending on the sea state. Sure. But it is a 5 day cruise with 2 port calls. A few minutes of vibration from the azipods is not a big factor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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