Advice required for Crown Princess Formal Night

[USCcruisecrazy]

I agree with you. I think it's appropriate to dress for the occasion. My personal preference is a tux. It doesn't take up any more room than a suit and based on Princess' suggested dress for formal nights in order to create the right atmosphere, I believe it appropriate. If other men want to wear a suit and tie, that's their choice and they look fine. However, I believe a gentleman should always dress to the level of his partner. I've been on many formal nights where the lady is dressed in an evening dress or formal gown and the man is wearing an open collar shirt, sometimes wrinkled, and slacks. IMHO, it's not very respectful to the lady.

 

I will third that recommendation. I do think it is disrespectful to go to the MDR on a Formal Night in very casual attire. And more so when your spouse is dressed to the nines in a nice gown. Does it hurt my feelings? Of course not. You pay the same rate I do. In that sense you can wear whatever you think you need to wear. I like to wear a Tux, because it looks sharp, feels sharp, and I don't get too many opportunities other than on a cruise ship formal night or a wedding! I guess if Princess ever changes the night from "Formal" than this discussion will cease to remain! That would be a good thing...until then I shall wear a Tux or nice suit.

[voljeep]

so, in what seems like you not so humble opinion, what is your standard and meaning for "very casual attire" for the mdr on forml night?:confused:

[USCcruisecrazy]

so, in what seems like you not so humble opinion, what is your standard and meaning for "very casual attire" for the mdr on forml night?:confused:

 

I assume you are talking to me...I'll ignore the snide remark as far as "not so humble opinion" and go with "my personal opinion"...anything less than kaki's with a nice button-up shirt (which I consider casual) is very casual attire. Again, you pay your fee...do what you want...I will accept your decision, but that doesn't mean I need to respect your decision!

[Kimba2]

I love the posts that say there is some sort of disrespect for people, dining room, spouse, yourself, (fill in the blank), etc. if you don't dress in a tux.

[Potstech]

Most do not realize that respect is earned and I see no reason to respect someone who obviouly does not respect others and their way of doing things.

[voljeep]

I assume you are talking to me...I'll ignore the snide remark as far as "not so humble opinion" and go with "my personal opinion"...anything less than kaki's with a nice button-up shirt (which I consider casual) is very casual attire. Again, you pay your fee...do what you want...I will accept your decision, but that doesn't mean I need to respect your decision!

 

oh, I totally agree, except my "kaki's" are a pair of linen pants ( black for formal night ) and a long sleeve button up shirt ( although I do occasionally wear a very nice long sleeved polo shirt )

 

that's for every night on ship , casual or formal, when we are planning on going to a specialty restaurant, mdr, vines, crooners, show, etc:cool:

[Kimba2]

oh, I totally agree, except my "kaki's" are a pair of linen pants ( black for formal night ) and a long sleeve button up shirt ( although I do occasionally wear a very nice long sleeved polo shirt )

 

that's for every night on ship , casual or formal, when we are planning on going to a specialty restaurant, mdr, vines, crooners, show, etc:cool:

I respect that. In fact, I wear that.

[USCcruisecrazy]

oh, I totally agree, except my "kaki's" are a pair of linen pants ( black for formal night ) and a long sleeve button up shirt ( although I do occasionally wear a very nice long sleeved polo shirt )

 

that's for every night on ship , casual or formal, when we are planning on going to a specialty restaurant, mdr, vines, crooners, show, etc:cool:

 

I'm good with that. Linen pants are awesome...especially in a warm climate. I usually wear something nice every night as well. We just enjoy dressing nice when on vacation because it's normally scrubs or jeans every day at work...makes us feel on vacation LOL!! It's just the few that try to push the limit and wear something less than that described above.

[Potstech]

Or those who push the everyone MUST dress in a tux or at least a suit and tie while the venue does not. Then insinuate everyone not conforning to this push are disrespecting them.

 

Princess has made the decission to allow a more relaxed dress attire different from their posted suggestions. As long as that is THEIR standard hen no one else matters.

[USCcruisecrazy]

Or those who push the everyone MUST dress in a tux or at least a suit and tie while the venue does not. Then insinuate everyone not conforning to this push are disrespecting them.

 

Princess has made the decission to allow a more relaxed dress attire different from their posted suggestions. As long as that is THEIR standard hen no one else matters.

 

If that was directed at me, then I guess your inability to comprehend is something I should accept. I never said wear a Tux or suit and tie...I said I thought it was disrespectful to dress in "Very casual Attire" when the standard Princess gives is higher than that. And I explained what I thought very casual attire looked like. didn't insinuate anything...but hey, take it however you please. Appreciate you joining into the great conversation we were having!

[c-boy]

" if they don't intend you to use it, why do the tell you to pack it ? " ...

[jwattle]

I love that we have the perfect excuse and venue to dress up. It also tickles my fancy to no end when I'm in the casino after dinner on formal night (still in a formal gown) and a member of the waitstaff approaches me with a cocktail or glass of champagne, saying that it's from the gentleman at the bar, for the Countess. He then points to my husband, who smiles and winks at me.My husband likes to do that. :hearteyes::hearteyes::hearteyes:Obviously I enjoy it too, and the formalwear sets it off perfectly. :)

[Potstech]

If that was directed at me, then I guess your inability to comprehend is something I should accept. I never said wear a Tux or suit and tie...I said I thought it was disrespectful to dress in "Very casual Attire" when the standard Princess gives is higher than that. And I explained what I thought very casual attire looked like. didn't insinuate anything...but hey, take it however you please. Appreciate you joining into the great conversation we were having!

 

It was directed at all who push the agenda I mentioned. Not you in particular. Sounds like others have a comphrehension problem as well which I will accept also.

[USCcruisecrazy]

It was directed at all who push the agenda I mentioned. Not you in particular. Sounds like others have a comphrehension problem as well which I will accept also.

 

Touche' my friend!! Well done! :cool:

[tip]

Or those who push the everyone MUST dress in a tux or at least a suit and tie while the venue does not. Then insinuate everyone not confor(m)ing to this push are disrespecting them.

 

Princess has made the decission to allow a more relaxed dress attire different from their posted suggestions. As long as that is THEIR standard (t)hen no one else matters.

 

Very well-said!

[ksm77]

Or those who push the everyone MUST dress in a tux or at least a suit and tie while the venue does not. Then insinuate everyone not conforning to this push are disrespecting them.

 

Princess has made the decission to allow a more relaxed dress attire different from their posted suggestions. As long as that is THEIR standard hen no one else matters.

 

 

The venue is requesting a certain type of dress. If you go the Princess website under (Know before you go) You can scroll down to "What to pack" It says "When formal nights are being held, please observe the dress code in the MDR venues for the enjoyment of all our guests. Evening gowns and cocktail dresses for women. Tuxedos, dinner jackets or dark suits with a tie for men. This is also repeated in the Princess Patter on formal nights. Princess is requesting you dress a certain way, people are just refusing to do it.

 

The people who are following the "dress code" are only doing what Princess is asking them to do. I find the fault to be with Princess for allowing people to enter the dining room without the requested dress on. Why does Princess even have a dress code if they are not going to enforce it? I really wish they would get rid of the formal night dress code because it is very stupid for people to be in tuxes & evening gowns, cocktail dresses, suits & ties, sitting next to someone in casual pants & polo shirt. Princess should make one of the MDR formal for those who would like to dress up. Everyone else could go to the others. I think this would make everyone happy. We always dress for formal nights but we may just dress like we do on casual nights on our next cruise. It doesn't make it a "special evening" if about half of the MDR is not following the formal dress code. I will be wearing a dress or nice pants outfit. DH will be in dress pants & button down shirt.

Edited August 20, 2018 by ksm77

[Potstech]

Yes they are doing what Princess suggest they do. But in reality they are not requiring those suggestions to be followed. Agree Princess is at fault and have been for many years. They have decided not to change their suggestion or how it is enforced. Why do so many posters think they can enforce them while they call others "STUPID" for the way they dress. It solves nothing but does cause other to react to your name calling. Your problem is with Princess not other cruisers. Good Lick getting them to change.

[c-boy]

some one help me! I've read the posts twice and can't find the word "MUST" . Perhaps the poster/member has "most" confused with "MUST".

[ksm77]

Yes they are doing what Princess suggest they do. But in reality they are not requiring those suggestions to be followed. Agree Princess is at fault and have been for many years. They have decided not to change their suggestion or how it is enforced. Why do so many posters think they can enforce them while they call others "STUPID" for the way they dress. It solves nothing but does cause other to react to your name calling. Your problem is with Princess not other cruisers. Good Lick getting them to change.

 

First of all I didn't call people stupid. I said it is "stupid" for Princess to allow this to happen. If I asked you to dinner in my home and said "I would like you to dress a certain way, would you think to yourself I'm not going to do that, I am going to do what I want. I would not be happy but I would allow you to come in my home anyway. That is what Princess is doing.

Edited August 20, 2018 by ksm77

[ksm77]

some one help me! I've read the posts twice and can't find the word "MUST" . Perhaps the poster/member has "most" confused with "MUST".

 

 

You are right it doesn't say MUST. It says PLEASE observe the formal dress code. I guess I was raised to do what is requested of me especially when someone says PLEASE. I went on to say I wish Princess would do away with formal night it is not special anymore.

[Kimba2]

The venue is requesting a certain type of dress. If you go the Princess website under (Know before you go) You can scroll down to "What to pack" It says "When formal nights are being held, please observe the dress code in the MDR venues for the enjoyment of all our guests. Evening gowns and cocktail dresses for women. Tuxedos, dinner jackets or dark suits with a tie for men. This is also repeated in the Princess Patter on formal nights. Princess is requesting you dress a certain way, people are just refusing to do it.

 

The people who are following the "dress code" are only doing what Princess is asking them to do. I find the fault to be with Princess for allowing people to enter the dining room without the requested dress on. Why does Princess even have a dress code if they are not going to enforce it? I really wish they would get rid of the formal night dress code because it is very stupid for people to be in tuxes & evening gowns, cocktail dresses, suits & ties, sitting next to someone in casual pants & polo shirt. Princess should make one of the MDR formal for those who would like to dress up. Everyone else could go to the others. I think this would make everyone happy. We always dress for formal nights but we may just dress like we do on casual nights on our next cruise. It doesn't make it a "special evening" if about half of the MDR is not following the formal dress code. I will be wearing a dress or nice pants outfit. DH will be in dress pants & button down shirt.

Wait - so you dress up in formal Wear and I walk in the MDR dressed in casual pants & polo shirt - and suddenly it's no longer a "special evening"?

 

The only people who aren't happy with the suggested dress code are the people who feel that somehow their food tastes different and their special evening is ruined because of some guy who walked in with black slacks and a white polo shirt.

 

See I think that is very stupid.

 

Why are people so concerned with what other people are wearing?

[Kimba2]

First of all I didn't call people stupid. I said it is "stupid" for Princess to allow this to happen. If I asked you to dinner in my home and said "I would like you to dress a certain way, would you think to yourself I'm not going to do that, I am going to do what I want. I would not be happy but I would allow you to come in my home anyway. That is what Princess is doing.

See I disagree. I think that Princess is being purposely ambiguous.

 

They want the revenue from the pictures but they don't want to alienate those who prefer to dress casually on the optional formal nights on a vacation that they paid good money for.

 

But the reality is that if they started turning away the slacks & shirt crowd they would lose passengers.

 

My guess is that if Princess went formal only on those nights that the casual crowd books with another line. The formal crowd won't change lines and the percentage of those who would is much smaller than the percentage of the casually dressed who would bolt.

 

There's simply too much competition out there.

[Potstech]

First of all I didn't call people stupid. I said it is "stupid" for Princess to allow this to happen. If I asked you to dinner in my home and said "I would like you to dress a certain way, would you think to yourself I'm not going to do that, I am going to do what I want. I would not be happy but I would allow you to come in my home anyway. That is what Princess is doing.

 

If you asked me to dinner and asked me to dress a certian way I would probably not accept. But Princess is suggesting how people could dress. No where are they saying "You must dress a certain way" and allow many differentways to dress on any night in the MDR. In other words they do not insist you dress a certain way like some posters try to do.

[misterkevin]

On our last cruise on the Crown Princes, women wore long beaded gowns with tiaras or fascinators and fur stoles. Men wore white tie & tails with top hats, canes, and monacles.

[PrincessLuver]

On our last cruise on the Crown Princes, women wore long beaded gowns with tiaras or fascinators and fur stoles. Men wore white tie & tails with top hats, canes, and monacles.

 

Is it true they were not allowed in the MDR because they were not wearing the suggested white gloves and it would totally devastate everyone’s enjoyment of dinner :confused: