Pre-purchase casino credits

[Wolffie89]

I just asked that question.  I'm not really sure how this benefits anyone if they are taking the promo chips of you win and just giving you the same amount in cash chips. You would be breaking even every hand you win and losing you money every time you lose. You would never be ahead..

[Wolffie89]

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Sorry about all the post.  I domt know how to upload multiple pictures to one post 

[Ourusualbeach]

1 hour ago, Wolffie89 said:

It's been confirmed by someone on the cruise ship now that all chips are indeed promo chips non chashable. 

 

Just as I suspected.  Thanks for confirming.

[RC_Cruisers]

1 hour ago, Wolffie89 said:

 

 

My question is if you win a hand on top of receiving real chips for the win do they replace your promotional chips with real chips or do they leave the promotional chips on the table.

 

If they leave the promotional chips on the table for your next hand then in reality you are playing through more than $2000 in promotional chips.  In order to only play through the original $2000 they should be replacing the promotional chips with real chips after each win.

Edited December 1, 2018 by RC_Cruisers
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[Wolffie89]

1 hour ago, RC_Cruisers said:

 

 

My question is if you win a hand on top of receiving real chips for the win do they replace your promotional chips with real chips or do they leave the promotional chips on the table.

 

If they leave the promotional chips on the table for your next hand then in reality you are playing through more than $2000 in promotional chips.  In order to only play through the original $2000 they should be replacing the promotional chips with real chips after each win.

 They pay you in real chips and leave the promotional chips on the table for your next hand if you win 

Edited December 1, 2018 by Wolffie89

[nolimits]

So that means your play thru is a lot more than purchased amount?

 

[nolimits]

And you have to win your purchase back.

if you have great run  gambling can’t do anything wrong from first bet. Last night settling up 10,000 cash still have 2200 in promo chips there useless but you payed 2000 real money for them 

[FireEMT978]

7 minutes ago, nolimits said:

And you have to win your purchase back.

if you have great run  gambling can’t do anything wrong from first bet. Last night settling up 10,000 cash still have 2200 in promo chips there useless but you payed 2000 real money for them 

I have a question, now.

If I were to have this happen, can I take the remaining promotional chips home with me?

Then, use them on my next Royal Caribbean cruise?

Food for thought.

[Ourusualbeach]

3 minutes ago, FireEMT978 said:

I have a question, now.

If I were to have this happen, can I take the remaining promotional chips home with me?

Then, use them on my next Royal Caribbean cruise?

Food for thought.

 

There was something in the fine print that they can only be played by the purchaser and that you had to show your seapass card.  Presumably that would mean that they  are checking that you purchased them for that cruise. 

Edited December 1, 2018 by Ourusualbeach

[FireEMT978]

1 hour ago, Ourusualbeach said:

 

There was something in the fine print that they can only be played by the purchaser and that you had to show your seapass card.  Presumably that would mean that they  are checking that you purchased them for that cruise. 

I just read where the offer states "value of Offer expires at the end of the cruise."

[nolimits]

I wonder if the dealers would appreciate a tip from the promotional rack 

[tekguy26]

2 hours ago, nolimits said:

And you have to win your purchase back.

if you have great run  gambling can’t do anything wrong from first bet. Last night settling up 10,000 cash still have 2200 in promo chips there useless but you payed 2000 real money for them 

Theres nothing wrong with that. Since you cant take the promo chips home, you might as well bet table max. You have nothing to lose at that point. You can only win. There's something flawed about this. I thought promo bets are one time wagers only. Once you bet it, shouldn't it be removed? 

[Wolffie89]

 

 

22 minutes ago, tekguy26 said:

Theres nothing wrong with that. Since you cant take the promo chips home, you might as well bet table max. You have nothing to lose at that point. You can only win. There's something flawed about this. I thought promo bets are one time wagers only. Once you bet it, shouldn't it be removed? 

I dont understand what you're saying. You ate paying for the promo chips with your own money. So if you get the $2000 in promo chips that you pay for and the $200 bonus in promo chips, $200 wouldn't be the table max. The other $2000 is your money you already spent. The promo stays if you win the hand and gets taken away if you lose. They expect you to spend hours in the casino to get rid of the $2000 promo chips you have. I guess if you had your 2000 promo chips the last night you would have to go all in and either get 2000 back in chashable chips or lose it all 

Edited December 2, 2018 by Wolffie89

[Nessa1dc]

On ‎11‎/‎24‎/‎2018 at 9:13 AM, Host Clarea said:

 

This capability is on older Royal ships?  I thought the machines had to print cashout tickets to move money to another machine.

Its available on the Grandeur.  I got an email too....I'm just not sure how it works...I normally play about $2000, but...can someone explain it to me like I'm a 4th grader?

[WahtDa]

 

1 hour ago, Nessa1dc said:

Its available on the Grandeur.  I got an email too....I'm just not sure how it works...I normally play about $2000, but...can someone explain it to me like I'm a 4th grader?

 

No one knows yet - wait a week or so and everyone will know for SURE.

[Wolffie89]

The way its works is explained in my previous post from someone using the promotion right now on the ship

[Robinhill]

On December 1, 2018 at 8:09 PM, Wolffie89 said:

 

 

I dont understand what you're saying. You ate paying for the promo chips with your own money. So if you get the $2000 in promo chips that you pay for and the $200 bonus in promo chips, $200 wouldn't be the table max. The other $2000 is your money you already spent. The promo stays if you win the hand and gets taken away if you lose. They expect you to spend hours in the casino to get rid of the $2000 promo chips you have. I guess if you had your 2000 promo chips the last night you would have to go all in and either get 2000 back in chashable chips or lose it all 

when you win, they pay you in the real chips while you still keep the promotional ones that you just played (just like they do with real chips- you wager 10, you win, they pay you the ten and the ten you bet is still there on the table.  then the next hand you use the promotional ones again- you either win and get paid with the real chips again or you lose and they take the promotional chips.  What i would say is that you are better off purchasing the smaller package then what you normally spend i.e.if you normally spend 1000 maybe only purchase the 500 package.  if you normally spend 1500 then maybe only purchase the 1000 package etc.  so that you likely will use the promotional chips and hopefully win back in the real chips

Edited December 3, 2018 by Robinhill
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[Robinhill]

On November 23, 2018 at 10:32 PM, CruisingHusker said:

I just noticed this today too for my March sailing. I’ve never seen it before today. When we get money off of our sea pass at the casino they give us slot tickets or chips. You can’t turn those back in for cash. You have to cash them in the machine or change out your chips at the tables before getting cash in return. I’m assuming this would work the same way. 

it does work the same.

[Thorben-Hendrik]

On 12/2/2018 at 1:49 AM, tekguy26 said:

I thought promo bets are one time wagers only. Once you bet it, shouldn't it be removed? 

Yes it should be replaced with real money - the T+C say it has to be played (once) not until you loose it!

They are not honoring their T+C ( again! )

[Karlos1960]

All,

 

This is "freeplay" chips, and should not be redeemable for cash.  My big question is how are the chips replaced when I win or push.  If I win, is my freeplay chip replaced with a cashable chip.

 

Would highly recommend folks checking out the Wizard of Odds web site.  He describes different chips, and their value.  In this case, I believe he refers to these RCL freeplay chips as "non-negotiable":

 

https://wizardofodds.com/gambling/promotional-chips/

 

Final thoughts.  Years ago, I was able to buy chips on my seapass card, which went against the credit card.  The onboard casino's stopped this practice, since the extra 3% paid to the credit card companies ate into their profits/margin.  I think it unlikely that RCL would off up 5% profit (additional free play chips), plus incur the cost of the credit card when purchased ahead of time pre-cruise (on the credit cards).  These freeplay chips are definitely not as valuable as real cashable chips.

 

That said, I will be cruising on the Brilliance in 8 days out of Tampa, and will buy the smallest amount to better understand the ramifications.

 

[Ourusualbeach]

19 minutes ago, Karlos1960 said:

All,

 

This is "freeplay" chips, and should not be redeemable for cash.  My big question is how are the chips replaced when I win or push.  If I win, is my freeplay chip replaced with a cashable chip.

 

Would highly recommend folks checking out the Wizard of Odds web site.  He describes different chips, and their value.  In this case, I believe he refers to these RCL freeplay chips as "non-negotiable":

 

https://wizardofodds.com/gambling/promotional-chips/

 

Final thoughts.  Years ago, I was able to buy chips on my seapass card, which went against the credit card.  The onboard casino's stopped this practice, since the extra 3% paid to the credit card companies ate into their profits/margin.  I think it unlikely that RCL would off up 5% profit (additional free play chips), plus incur the cost of the credit card when purchased ahead of time pre-cruise (on the credit cards).  These freeplay chips are definitely not as valuable as real cashable chips.

 

That said, I will be cruising on the Brilliance in 8 days out of Tampa, and will buy the smallest amount to better understand the ramifications.

 

You can still get chips against your seapass card.  Royal charges a 5% fee unless your a club Royal member or have a cash account set up in which case they waive the fee. 

[Thorben-Hendrik]

1 minute ago, Ourusualbeach said:

You can still get chips against your seapass card.  Royal charges a 5% fee unless your a club Royal member or have a cash account set up in which case they waive the fee. 

I had some serious problems with that lately.....they wanted to give the promo chips - so no cash back on th leftovers!