Milwaukee Eight Posted April 14, 2020 #76 Share Posted April 14, 2020 1 minute ago, Ocean Boy said: Every time I go to London one thing that strikes me is how many young people I see smoking. Makes me think health issues are not limited to the over 70's crowd there. Smoking seems to still be a thing in the U.K. and Europe. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ocean Boy Posted April 14, 2020 #77 Share Posted April 14, 2020 8 minutes ago, irzero said: It's worse in spain and italy. The reason london is bad is due to all the immigrants. They all seem to smoke smuggled tobacco. Smoking in the UK is generally in decline. £10 for 20 is likely the reason. Sent from my SM-N975F using Tapatalk I can tell a native Londoner from an immigrant. The natives are the ones that I can't understand when they speak english.😉😄 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ocean Boy Posted April 14, 2020 #78 Share Posted April 14, 2020 15 minutes ago, irzero said: On the whole I know less smokers now than I ever have. On the other hand there is a big cocaine problem in the UK. Well that should lead to less medical issues.😯😏 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milwaukee Eight Posted April 14, 2020 #79 Share Posted April 14, 2020 13 minutes ago, Ocean Boy said: Well that should lead to less medical issues.😯😏 Except when they OD and are revived after hypoxia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firefly333 Posted April 15, 2020 #80 Share Posted April 15, 2020 I'm feeling pretty healty, lol, still 69. Just wait until I hit the magic 70, it's all downhill from there. These boards are scary. Never dreaded a birthday or feared one before. A doctor giving permission for me to cruise, feels like being treated like a child. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mayleeman Posted April 15, 2020 #81 Share Posted April 15, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, firefly333 said: A doctor giving permission for me to cruise, feels like being treated like a child. Don't let it get to you. Here is an alternate perspective: NASA gives every astronaut a preflight physical, and the doc has to say okay before they sail off. Edited April 15, 2020 by mayleeman 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firefly333 Posted April 15, 2020 #82 Share Posted April 15, 2020 4 minutes ago, mayleeman said: Don't let it get to you. Here is an alternate perspective: NASA gives every astronaut a preflight physical, and the doc has to say okay before they sail off. Not even the same thing. They have a specific date, they know ahead of time. With this situation maybe cruises are resumed by January and I cruise, maybe we still need a doctors note, maybe maybe. Btw my dad worked for nasa, I'm a NASA kid, went to all the open houses, saw the wind tunnel, heard lectures on ions as a child that made no sense, got a piece of echo ii.. I'm not going into space. This uncertainty is different, ymmv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mayleeman Posted April 15, 2020 #83 Share Posted April 15, 2020 (edited) 14 minutes ago, firefly333 said: Not even the same thing. They have a specific date, they know ahead of time. With this situation maybe cruises are resumed by January and I cruise, maybe we still need a doctors note, maybe maybe. Btw my dad worked for nasa, I'm a NASA kid, went to all the open houses, saw the wind tunnel, heard lectures on ions as a child that made no sense, got a piece of echo ii.. I'm not going into space. This uncertainty is different, ymmv Okay, tried to offer a little light-hearted approach, and obviously failed. Or you might think I actually thought they were the same and needed instruction. Or maybe you want to get upset about the doctor's note. Whatever. Edited April 15, 2020 by mayleeman 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grapau27 Posted April 15, 2020 #84 Share Posted April 15, 2020 (edited) 8 hours ago, Milwaukee Eight said: And I got blasted for asking how many points you had. SMH. That’s a good number. In my opinion Thanks Rory,I never hide from a question and you have been a concerned friend which I appreciate. My health issues are heredity including NSTEMI in December 2019 where I had 1 stent fitted but my fitness and prompt action avoided any heart damage. BP was high 10 years ago and I was put on tablets for life even though it has been controlled successfully for several years I queried is it right at 63 to be banned from cruising for that condition. All my readings are low because I have tried to keep fit. BP 117-70 Pulse 60 BMI 26. Edited April 15, 2020 by grapau27 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grapau27 Posted April 15, 2020 #85 Share Posted April 15, 2020 8 hours ago, irzero said: Lol. There are a lot of social smokers in london though. Some people have a weird habit of only smoking when out for a drink. On the whole I know less smokers now than I ever have. On the other hand there is a big cocaine problem in the UK. Sent from my SM-N975F using Tapatalk Smoking is banned indoors in the UK which is great for us non smokers. I stopped smoking at 21 which was 42 years ago. Graham. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squadron Posted April 15, 2020 #86 Share Posted April 15, 2020 16 hours ago, irzero said: Most people. But the ones over 70 have all the health problems. Generally. Sent from my SM-N975F using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvufan Posted April 15, 2020 #87 Share Posted April 15, 2020 It seems this is a real confusing mess but it all boils down to a few things. First, we want to know when or if this policy will be rescinded or extended or amended. Also, part of the problem is determining fitness to sail-are people who are 70+ with diabetes or COPD ever going to be able to sail again even if their doc says they are fit to sail. I understand restrictions when covid is rampant, but what about later? If I am never going to be able to sail again (50 cruises) that is fine, but let me know so I can get refunds and make other plans. By CDC and the cruise lines waiting too long to make decisions it screws with final payment dates, refunds etc. I am almost to the point of cancelling 4 future cruises, taking my money, and going on road trips. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milwaukee Eight Posted April 15, 2020 #88 Share Posted April 15, 2020 8 hours ago, grapau27 said: Thanks Rory,I never hide from a question and you have been a concerned friend which I appreciate. My health issues are heredity including NSTEMI in December 2019 where I had 1 stent fitted but my fitness and prompt action avoided any heart damage. BP was high 10 years ago and I was put on tablets for life even though it has been controlled successfully for several years I queried is it right at 63 to be banned from cruising for that condition. All my readings are low because I have tried to keep fit. BP 117-70 Pulse 60 BMI 26. Glad you doing good. I just thought asking a persons BMI is a lot more personal than asking how many cruise points you have with Royal. In my opinion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grapau27 Posted April 15, 2020 #89 Share Posted April 15, 2020 3 minutes ago, Milwaukee Eight said: Glad you doing good. I just thought asking a persons BMI is a lot more personal than asking how many cruise points you have with Royal. In my opinion Thanks. Personally I don't mind answering questions but I can understand if someone else doesn't want to answer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milwaukee Eight Posted April 15, 2020 #90 Share Posted April 15, 2020 1 minute ago, grapau27 said: Thanks. Personally I don't mind answering questions but I can understand if someone else doesn't want to answer. You cover for them very well. Lol In my opinion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grapau27 Posted April 15, 2020 #91 Share Posted April 15, 2020 1 minute ago, Milwaukee Eight said: You cover for them very well. Lol In my opinion Thanks. I appreciate good friends. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
48traveler Posted April 15, 2020 #92 Share Posted April 15, 2020 17 hours ago, irzero said: Most people. But the ones over 70 have all the health problems. Generally. Sent from my SM-N975F using Tapatalk We don't at 71 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruisegirl1 Posted April 15, 2020 #93 Share Posted April 15, 2020 13 hours ago, mayleeman said: Don't let it get to you. Here is an alternate perspective: NASA gives every astronaut a preflight physical, and the doc has to say okay before they sail off. Seriously, you are comparing the physical strain of an astronaut to a guest getting on a cruise ship? The only similarity is they both leave from Port Canaveral Florida! m 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milwaukee Eight Posted April 15, 2020 #94 Share Posted April 15, 2020 Just now, cruisegirl1 said: The only similarity is they both leave from Port Canaveral Florida! Technically incorrect. Manned launches are from Kennedy Space Center. May again go from Cape Canaveral. The Port is different. I did enjoy the intended humor. I chuckled. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mayleeman Posted April 15, 2020 #95 Share Posted April 15, 2020 45 minutes ago, Milwaukee Eight said: I did enjoy the intended humor. I chuckled. Thank God someone did! Thank you. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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