Outerdog Posted December 30, 2021 #26 Share Posted December 30, 2021 CDC travel recommendations are not cruise line covid policies. That's why they keep getting pulled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare aubreyc1988 Posted December 30, 2021 #27 Share Posted December 30, 2021 1 hour ago, johnoj said: Which are pretty ridiculous to begin with...but that last topic was on point with nothing but great information. CC exists outside of our normal reality, no pandemic here, therefore no talk about covid and the pandemic, even as it relates to cruising. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roger001 Posted December 30, 2021 #28 Share Posted December 30, 2021 This CDC thing is about the most important cruise issue going right now. Very important to my planning. Ever time I try to check out what’s going on with it, it’s gone. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare BirdTravels Posted December 30, 2021 #29 Share Posted December 30, 2021 11 minutes ago, kfnesq said: From the NCL website: If, following a declaration of a Public Health Emergency, you cancel a booking for a cruise scheduled during the declared emergency or must cancel your booking because you are prohibited from traveling to the vessel due to a governmental travel restriction, but the cruise is not cancelled, you are entitled to a FCC for the amount paid to Norwegian. In all other cases our standard cancellation policy will apply, as set forth in the Cruise Ticket Contract for your cruise. Not sure if this is new language or not, but we are clearly still under a Public Health Emergency (at least, according to the Dept. of Health and Human Services), so it seems like FCC would be provided if you cancel at this point. At least, I plan to call tomorrow and find out. https://www.phe.gov/emergency/news/healthactions/phe/Pages/COVDI-15Oct21.aspx As a result of the continued consequences of the Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) pandemic, on this date and after consultation with public health officials as necessary, I, Xavier Becerra, Secretary of Health and Human Services, pursuant to the authority vested in me under section 319 of the Public Health Service Act, do hereby renew, effective October 18, 2021, the January 31, 2020, determination by former Secretary Alex M. Azar II, that he previously renewed on April 21, 2020, July 23, 2020, October 2, 2020, and January 7, 2021, and that I renewed on April 15, 2021 and July 19, 2021, that a public health emergency exists and has existed since January 27, 2020, nationwide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russiamomm Posted December 30, 2021 #30 Share Posted December 30, 2021 I hope this doesn’t goes pulled too, but just to let others know that I’ve heard from one other person that NCL allowed them to cancel next week’s cruise and get FCC. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n4w Posted December 30, 2021 #31 Share Posted December 30, 2021 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lou33 Posted December 30, 2021 #32 Share Posted December 30, 2021 9 minutes ago, Outerdog said: CDC travel recommendations are not cruise line covid policies. That's why they keep getting pulled. I don't understand? The whole point of that thread was to make people aware of the new Travel Health Notice direct from the CDC. And discuss how it affects the current "cruise line" COVID policy. Isn't that what these forums are for? 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outerdog Posted December 30, 2021 #33 Share Posted December 30, 2021 4 minutes ago, Lou33 said: I don't understand? The whole point of that thread was to make people aware of the new Travel Health Notice direct from the CDC. And discuss how it affects the current "cruise line" COVID policy. Isn't that what these forums are for? I don't disagree. I'm just telling you why I believe the threads are getting pulled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
japit Posted December 30, 2021 #34 Share Posted December 30, 2021 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Javajitterz Posted December 30, 2021 #35 Share Posted December 30, 2021 4 minutes ago, Outerdog said: I don't disagree. I'm just telling you why I believe the threads are getting pulled. It was MY thread and I wasn't informed why it was pulled either. I was careful, it was totally pertinent to all of us and not fear mongering or expressing an opinion and the replies were all on topic as well. I don't get it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TNcruising02 Posted December 30, 2021 #36 Share Posted December 30, 2021 (edited) I wonder why the mods don't just delete the offending posts instead of an entire thread. Edited December 30, 2021 by TNcruising02 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outerdog Posted December 30, 2021 #37 Share Posted December 30, 2021 1 minute ago, TNcruising02 said: I wonder why the mods don't just delete the offending posts instead of an entire thread. I fell like this has been pretty clearly answered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TNcruising02 Posted December 30, 2021 #38 Share Posted December 30, 2021 1 minute ago, Outerdog said: I fell like this has been pretty clearly answered. Not really. There are thousands of threads with different topics, so it makes no sense that the topic itself is not to be discussed. The topic was relevant to cruising at this time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outerdog Posted December 30, 2021 #39 Share Posted December 30, 2021 3 minutes ago, TNcruising02 said: Not really. There are thousands of threads with different topics, so it makes no sense that the topic itself is not to be discussed. The topic was relevant to cruising at this time. I guess I'm not seeing what's so confusing about CC's policy: Effective immediately, COVID-related discussion should be limited to actual policy on board ships https://boards.cruisecritic.com/announcement/473-please-read-covid-related-discussion/ CDC travel advisories are not cruise line policies. Pretty simple. There's a thread going over here which relates to changes in NCL's policies related to the CDC advisory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare mking8288 Posted December 30, 2021 #40 Share Posted December 30, 2021 (edited) Quick for those booked & might/should/plan/wish to sail and/or cancel, unsure of what to do next - just bookmark those URL links to your desktop, i/smart-phone, tablet/iPad, browser to save it. Then, you can reference it, assuming that there are no changes. Otherwise, do a screenshot to save a static image. This does nothing to help with a constructive discussion or chat, but it will at least preserve the information from sources external to CC itself ... it is "their" editorial and moderation prerogative, T&C. Not "ours" to question or judge and challenge. Mod(s) can delete what they considered offensive and posts that are in violation AND then lock it up, but ... Edited December 30, 2021 by mking8288 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare craig01020 Posted December 30, 2021 #41 Share Posted December 30, 2021 41 minutes ago, aubreyc1988 said: CC exists outside of our normal reality So much for being Cruise Critical. Maybe they should change the name to Cruise Cheerleaders. 3 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare craig01020 Posted December 30, 2021 #42 Share Posted December 30, 2021 7 minutes ago, mking8288 said: it is "their" editorial and moderation prerogative Sounds like a power trip to me. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare BermudaBound2014 Posted December 30, 2021 #43 Share Posted December 30, 2021 Cruise critic is owned by Trip Advisor. They are in the business of making money. Just saying 🙂 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare craig01020 Posted December 31, 2021 #44 Share Posted December 31, 2021 (edited) 32 minutes ago, BermudaBound2014 said: They are in the business of making money. What does that have to do with anything?! Although it explains why both of their websites are so crappy. Edited December 31, 2021 by craig01020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare BermudaBound2014 Posted December 31, 2021 #45 Share Posted December 31, 2021 (edited) 6 minutes ago, craig01020 said: What does that have to do with anything?! Although it explains why both of their websites are so crappy. I'm trying to answer this as politically correct as possible. Travel companies make money solely because people travel. If people stop traveling, they stop making money. The image of travel is important to keep people traveling. In the case of cruise companies, the image is in grave danger of reaching a tipping point. Hope that helps. Edited December 31, 2021 by BermudaBound2014 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Back to school Posted December 31, 2021 #46 Share Posted December 31, 2021 Cruise Critic, Terms of Use: “REVIEWS, COMMENTS AND USE OF OTHER INTERACTIVE AREAS We appreciate hearing from you.” Are you listening? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare craig01020 Posted December 31, 2021 #47 Share Posted December 31, 2021 15 minutes ago, BermudaBound2014 said: Travel companies make money solely because people travel. If people stop traveling, they stop making money. If they don't stop pissing off their readers, they'll just go elsewhere to a more robust site where they can actually message each other...and not get censored for being honest. Maybe like BaceFook? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare BermudaBound2014 Posted December 31, 2021 #48 Share Posted December 31, 2021 18 minutes ago, craig01020 said: If they don't stop pissing off their readers, they'll just go elsewhere to a more robust site where they can actually message each other...and not get censored for being honest. Maybe like BaceFook? Without a doubt. Plenty of social media conversations today regarding the CDC ruling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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