Edge announcement 2 crew positive

[Smmessineo]

At sailaway from Roatan today, the captain made another covid announcement. Unfortunately we were napping in our stateroom and couldn't clearly hear him. If i am able to get the info , i will post it.

[Fly and Sail]

59 minutes ago, Smmessineo said:

At sailaway from Roatan today, the captain made another covid announcement. Unfortunately we were napping in our stateroom and couldn't clearly hear him. If i am able to get the info , i will post it.

 

No info was given other than "More guests reported with flu like symptoms to medical and tested positive for Covid. They and their closed contact have been quarantined."

 

Considering how often this announcement was made now I'm fairly certain the 1% mark has been easily crossed considering the low passenger count on board.

 

And the more of these announcements are made the more paranoid people get regarding their own headaches, sniffles and coughs so even more folks will go to the med bay and get themselves tested.

 

[drakes2]

12 minutes ago, Fly and Sail said:

 

No info was given other than "More guests reported with flu like symptoms to medical and tested positive for Covid. They and their closed contact have been quarantined."

 

Considering how often this announcement was made now I'm fairly certain the 1% mark has been easily crossed considering the low passenger count on board.

 

And the more of these announcements are made the more paranoid people get regarding their own headaches, sniffles and coughs so even more folks will go to the med bay and get themselves tested.

 

Can you suggest some good cold cough meds to bring onboard?

[Fly and Sail]

21 minutes ago, drakes2 said:

Can you suggest some good cold cough meds to bring onboard?

 

I'm not a physician so no, not really. I do like Tylenol Severe Cold Night&Day for when I'm really sick. However that's likely not going to help if it's Covid related other than that the night (blue) pills make you sleep easier.

 

I had to deal with something down at Guest Relations and there were two guests who got quarantined as close contacts and they were pretty... let's say unhappy. I can't see how this remains manageable for the crew if numbers go up and they have to lock entire clusters away.

 

I was pretty positive that with proper procedures in place a cruise line could manage these sailings but having seen in action what it all entails and the reaction of affected guests... I give cruising 3-4 more weeks before things are being put into shutdown mode again. At least under the current circumstances which also include ports being cancelled (St Juan, Nassau etc). I'm also not sure how this whole testing on shore will play with Florida authorities because once off the ship I could almost bet that cases will move into the state count, not the cruise count. Are they (the Governors office) ok with that?

[wiredforflight]

There a total of number of passengers on this sailing? 

[Smmessineo]

1 hour ago, Fly and Sail said:

 

I'm not a physician so no, not really. I do like Tylenol Severe Cold Night&Day for when I'm really sick. However that's likely not going to help if it's Covid related other than that the night (blue) pills make you sleep easier.

 

I had to deal with something down at Guest Relations and there were two guests who got quarantined as close contacts and they were pretty... let's say unhappy. I can't see how this remains manageable for the crew if numbers go up and they have to lock entire clusters away.

 

I was pretty positive that with proper procedures in place a cruise line could manage these sailings but having seen in action what it all entails and the reaction of affected guests... I give cruising 3-4 more weeks before things are being put into shutdown mode again. At least under the current circumstances which also include ports being cancelled (St Juan, Nassau etc). I'm also not sure how this whole testing on shore will play with Florida authorities because once off the ship I could almost bet that cases will move into the state count, not the cruise count. Are they (the Governors office) ok with that?

Does Florida care about case counts?? Hahahahahaha . Nobody in Florida has covid! 

( this is sarcasm ....for anyone who doesn't know Florida's history of dealing with this horrible pandemic). 

Thanks for providing the info that i didn't hear, Fly and Sail. I hope your travels home go smoothly!

 

[Fly and Sail]

2 minutes ago, Smmessineo said:

Does Florida care about case counts?? Hahahahahaha . Nobody in Florida has covid! 

( this is sarcasm ....for anyone who doesn't know Florida's history of dealing with this horrible pandemic). 

Thanks for providing the info that i didn't hear, Fly and Sail. I hope your travels home go smoothly!

 

 

Probably not about the count itself but I bet they do care about problems being carried into the state and then Broward County / FL has to deal with them. I'd love to know where one is supposed to isolate if the on arrival test comes back positive (hours after leaving the terminal and having had contact with hundreds of others). I'll already be on a plane to LAX by the time my result comes back.

 

[Smmessineo]

6 minutes ago, Fly and Sail said:

 

Probably not about the count itself but I bet they do care about problems being carried into the state and then Broward County / FL has to deal with them. I'd love to know where one is supposed to isolate if the on arrival test comes back positive (hours after leaving the terminal and having had contact with hundreds of others). I'll already be on a plane to LAX by the time my result comes back.

 

No, Florida government at the highest level has welcomed every covid denier, anti vaxxer, untested tourist and resident since day 1, Id bet if it wasn't for getting on a flight, the Sunshine State wouldn't care if anyone got off a ship positve and spent a week visiting every tourist attraction here. The private companies have been the adults in the room here, or there would be no regulations.

[nocl]

1 hour ago, Fly and Sail said:

 

Probably not about the count itself but I bet they do care about problems being carried into the state and then Broward County / FL has to deal with them. I'd love to know where one is supposed to isolate if the on arrival test comes back positive (hours after leaving the terminal and having had contact with hundreds of others). I'll already be on a plane to LAX by the time my result comes back.

 

Actually if they did do an on arrival test, one would only be allowed of after the results are known.  Very similar to how Princess did it for SF when they had to test 25% of passengers on the Ruby.

[Jim_Iain]

On 1/4/2022 at 6:27 PM, Arizona Wildcat said:

The CBC reported cases were skyrocketing.  Did something happen in the last week?

Hmmn...  When was Christmas and New Year Vacation and lots of people traveling home for the Holidays and returning are now testing positive.   It was always predicted we would see an uptick in cases due to the holidays.

[MamaFej]

46 minutes ago, nocl said:

Actually if they did do an on arrival test, one would only be allowed of after the results are known.  Very similar to how Princess did it for SF when they had to test 25% of passengers on the Ruby.

That's what I had thought the case would be when we went to French Polynesia last month. We had to test within 48 hours before leaving the US, and upon arrival. I had expected to be held in the Papeete airport until the test results were in, but we were free to go. Mind you, we had filled out paperwork detailing each of our accommodations for the entire stay. The arrivals part of the airport is fairly open. 

 

The next day, upon arrival at our cruise port, we were tested/screened in an outdoor area and had to await results before being allowed to embark.

 

Note, nocl, I am not at all attemting to be contrary, I'm merely relating my experience in a tangentially related circumstance. 

 

Personally, I'd love to see greater testing availability, and more circumstances where vaccines and tests are required. Of course, I want to see more vaccine equity worldwide, even if it means that certain locatons can't get the "frozen" vaccines. 

[nocl]

3 minutes ago, MamaFej said:

That's what I had thought the case would be when we went to French Polynesia last month. We had to test within 48 hours before leaving the US, and upon arrival. I had expected to be held in the Papeete airport until the test results were in, but we were free to go. Mind you, we had filled out paperwork detailing each of our accommodations for the entire stay. The arrivals part of the airport is fairly open. 

 

The next day, upon arrival at our cruise port, we were tested/screened in an outdoor area and had to await results before being allowed to embark.

 

Note, nocl, I am not at all attemting to be contrary, I'm merely relating my experience in a tangentially related circumstance. 

 

Personally, I'd love to see greater testing availability, and more circumstances where vaccines and tests are required. Of course, I want to see more vaccine equity worldwide, even if it means that certain locatons can't get the "frozen" vaccines. 

Papeete is a bit different.  With Papeete as you well know you have to test before you fly there (they recently changed to now require a PCR within 24 hours of the flight, instead of an antigen or PCR within 72 hours of flight.

 

In addition everyone has to do a PCR test upon arrival.  Since it is a PCR, instead of an antigen, it does take more time for processing.  Since everyone has to had an ETIS form completed before flying there so they know how to reach everyone when the results from the PCR are done up to 3 days later.

 

I went through the Papeete process so that is why I am familiar with it.  Going again in May.

 

 

Most of the tests being done by cruise ship prior to arrival, and in many countries that test upon arrival, are antigen and one only gets clearance after the results are available.  Just as wht you went through at the port.

[nocl]

1 hour ago, Jim_Iain said:

Hmmn...  When was Christmas and New Year Vacation and lots of people traveling home for the Holidays and returning are now testing positive.   It was always predicted we would see an uptick in cases due to the holidays.

We also expected the Omicron surge to be growing now,  even without the holidays.  Should peak near the end of Jan.

[MamaFej]

7 minutes ago, nocl said:

Papeete is a bit different.  With Papeete as you well know you have to test before you fly there (they recently changed to now require a PCR within 24 hours of the flight, instead of an antigen or PCR within 72 hours of flight.

 

In addition everyone has to do a PCR test upon arrival.  Since it is a PCR, instead of an antigen, it does take more time for processing.  Since everyone has to had an ETIS form completed before flying there so they know how to reach everyone when the results from the PCR are done up to 3 days later.

 

I went through the Papeete process so that is why I am familiar with it.  Going again in May.

 

 

Most of the tests being done by cruise ship prior to arrival, and in many countries that test upon arrival, are antigen and one only gets clearance after the results are available.  Just as wht you went through at the port.

I was very impressed with how the French Polynesian government handled things. At the time of booking, we needed a PCR test within 72 hours. It changed to 48 just days before we left. I was not aware that it is now 24 hours. That could be tricky for many folks. 

 

We sure felt safe there! Thanks for relaying your experiences.

 

 

[UniPac]

On 1/7/2022 at 12:59 PM, Antropos said:

We thought about doing that too, but I don't think it would help you.. sure, they test you and then tell you the results came back negative. But I don't think you would get anything in writing in such a form that is accepted by airlines

 

I was on the Apex in December and had a visit to the medical (not because of Covid, but because insects ate me in Belize and some of the bites were really nasty). I waited for the doctor in his office and there was a printed paper with PCR result from a fellow guest straight in front of my on his desk (no other papers, so pretty obvious). I am sure a copy of that would work for airlines.

[drakes2]

23 minutes ago, UniPac said:

 

I was on the Apex in December and had a visit to the medical (not because of Covid, but because insects ate me in Belize and some of the bites were really nasty). I waited for the doctor in his office and there was a printed paper with PCR result from a fellow guest straight in front of my on his desk (no other papers, so pretty obvious). I am sure a copy of that would work for airlines.

I would want to be 100% sure it was an approved copy don't want to get to check in at airport and denied boarding.

[Fly and Sail]

14 hours ago, nocl said:

Actually if they did do an on arrival test, one would only be allowed of after the results are known.  Very similar to how Princess did it for SF when they had to test 25% of passengers on the Ruby.

 

Not really. Remember these are voluntary tests and not mandated by the arrival country. They are done upon request of the passenger to be able to travel internationally at a later point.

[nocl]

2 minutes ago, Fly and Sail said:

 

Not really. Remember these are voluntary tests and not mandated by the arrival country. They are done upon request of the passenger to be able to travel internationally at a later point.

We are talking about two different things.

 

I am referring to the situation if one arrival testing is required.

 

Not a voluntary test 

 

Though there have been postings here on CC where people talked about the delays in getting to the airport because of the time in getting the test and waiting for results.

[canderson]

1 hour ago, drakes2 said:

I would want to be 100% sure it was an approved copy don't want to get to check in at airport and denied boarding.

The results we received on Connie included all of the requisite information.

[avp1234]

On 1/6/2022 at 4:39 PM, WonderMan3 said:

Huh??? The casino with everyone masked is a totally different and much safer experience than a dining room or dance party full of everyone unmasked both of those last scenarios having been proven multiple times through real life situations as easy spread for Covid. 

Yes, I agree. That's what I was saying. A casino with everyone wearing masks is safer than dining rooms, dance parties etc.

[Fly and Sail]

FYI: Tomorrows Edge sailing (9 JAN) has 1174 pax booked compared to 1192 on this trip.

[nocl]

On 1/7/2022 at 3:20 PM, Fly and Sail said:

 

I'm not a physician so no, not really. I do like Tylenol Severe Cold Night&Day for when I'm really sick. However that's likely not going to help if it's Covid related other than that the night (blue) pills make you sleep easier.

 

I had to deal with something down at Guest Relations and there were two guests who got quarantined as close contacts and they were pretty... let's say unhappy. I can't see how this remains manageable for the crew if numbers go up and they have to lock entire clusters away.

 

I was pretty positive that with proper procedures in place a cruise line could manage these sailings but having seen in action what it all entails and the reaction of affected guests... I give cruising 3-4 more weeks before things are being put into shutdown mode again. At least under the current circumstances which also include ports being cancelled (St Juan, Nassau etc). I'm also not sure how this whole testing on shore will play with Florida authorities because once off the ship I could almost bet that cases will move into the state count, not the cruise count. Are they (the Governors office) ok with that?

According to the models another 3-4 weeks and we will be pretty much down the back side of the slope.  Plus the crew which have been infected to date will be back on the job.

 

Were the guests supposed to be in quarantine as a close contact, but down at customer service instead?

Edited January 9, 2022 by nocl

[Fly and Sail]

1 hour ago, nocl said:

According to the models another 3-4 weeks and we will be pretty much down the back side of the slope.  Plus the crew which have been infected to date will be back on the job.

 

Were the guests supposed to be in quarantine as a close contact, but down at customer service instead?

 

No, they were released after a day following their negative test. I wonder who will reimburse them for their missed days, especially as people were apparently moved from their original cabin to a porthole cabin. So much for "I'm booking at least a balcony so if it hits the fan I have some fresh air".

 

Which is what also lead me to the decision that I'd never under any circumstances report to medical no matter how I feel (unless it's super serious).

Edited January 9, 2022 by Fly and Sail

[Ipeeinthepools]

5 hours ago, Fly and Sail said:

 

No, they were released after a day following their negative test. I wonder who will reimburse them for their missed days, especially as people were apparently moved from their original cabin to a porthole cabin. So much for "I'm booking at least a balcony so if it hits the fan I have some fresh air".

 

Which is what also lead me to the decision that I'd never under any circumstances report to medical no matter how I feel (unless it's super serious).

 

You only get moved if you test positive.  If you are identified as a close contact, you remain in your original cabin until you test negative after 24 hours. 

[UniPac]

8 hours ago, Fly and Sail said:

FYI: Tomorrows Edge sailing (9 JAN) has 1174 pax booked compared to 1192 on this trip.

 

Good that you say "booked" - I am pretty sure, there will be less once the ship sails away.