Health assessment

[kwbrad]

Those of you who had to answer on the health assessment that you had been around someone who tested positive for covid 19 in the past 14 days.... what happened? Assuming you still tested negative for covid, did they just do additional screening? Were you denied boarding? Etc.

Thanks

[tallnthensome]

29 minutes ago, kwbrad said:

Those of you who had to answer on the health assessment that you had been around someone who tested positive for covid 19 in the past 14 days.... what happened? 

The vast .... and I mean vast majority of people aren't going to answer yes to that question even if they have been . 

[kwbrad]

1 minute ago, tallnthensome said:

The vast .... and I mean vast majority of people aren't going to answer yes to that question even if they have been . 

Thanks. I understand.  But hubby was exposed and we are not going to lie on the question.  So just trying to figure out if anyone else who was exposed has been honest about it and what happened when they were.  Most likely no one has lmao. Fortunately we will test before leaving home, and will fill out the health assessment once it is available, so I will find out in a few days if we get immediately cancelled, but I am hoping someone has had this experience and a negative test and were still able to board. 

 

[tallnthensome]

Read through some of these search fuction results.  Some discuss when someone has done what you're saying. 

 

https://boards.cruisecritic.com/search/?&q=Health assessment &type=forums_topic&nodes=133&search_and_or=or&search_in=titles&start_after=year

[kwbrad]

1 minute ago, tallnthensome said:

Read through some of these search fuction results.  Some discuss when someone has done what you're saying. 

 

https://boards.cruisecritic.com/search/?&q=Health assessment &type=forums_topic&nodes=133&search_and_or=or&search_in=titles&start_after=year

Thanks I will re-read them.  I looked through them before I posted but everything seemed to be about answering yes to symptoms not exposure.  Maybe I missed one.  

[cruizergal70]

31 minutes ago, kwbrad said:

Thanks. I understand.  But hubby was exposed and we are not going to lie on the question.  So just trying to figure out if anyone else who was exposed has been honest about it and what happened when they were.  Most likely no one has lmao. Fortunately we will test before leaving home, and will fill out the health assessment once it is available, so I will find out in a few days if we get immediately cancelled, but I am hoping someone has had this experience and a negative test and were still able to board. 

 

Thank you for your integrity. 

[mz-s]

Other than the ethical duty that some may feel to answer truthfully, I can't see any reason to do so given you are asymptomatic and test negative. All it is going to do is delay boarding. Unless you're trying to get out of the cruise, in which case there are easier ways to accomplish that.

[kwbrad]

9 minutes ago, mz-s said:

Other than the ethical duty that some may feel to answer truthfully, I can't see any reason to do so given you are asymptomatic and test negative. All it is going to do is delay boarding. Unless you're trying to get out of the cruise, in which case there are easier ways to accomplish that.

 

Yeah this is an elite cruise (Casino cruise) so free shore excursion, free drinks all over the ship, etc, etc.  I have been looking forward to this trip for 6 months,  Definitely NOT trying to get out of it.  However, we choose not to lie about the exposure.  So we will answer truthfully.  I was just hoping that someone had the experience of still being able to board.  

[mz-s]

3 minutes ago, kwbrad said:

 

Yeah this is an elite cruise (Casino cruise) so free shore excursion, free drinks all over the ship, etc, etc.  I have been looking forward to this trip for 6 months,  Definitely NOT trying to get out of it.  However, we choose not to lie about the exposure.  So we will answer truthfully.  I was just hoping that someone had the experience of still being able to board.  

 

It's up to the ship's medical staff. There is no rule saying yes or no on boarding. They may deny boarding, require you to submit to a test at the pier, or just wave you along with no additional screening. It's up to their judgement.

[Colorado Beach Bum]

Last fall we answered a question that we had been out of the county in the last 14 days (not sure that’s still asked).  We had to go through secondary screening at embarkation.  Double checked our paperwork (negative test specifically) and sent us on in. 

[cruizergal70]

1 hour ago, mz-s said:

Other than the ethical duty that some may feel to answer truthfully, I can't see any reason to do so given you are asymptomatic and test negative. All it is going to do is delay boarding. Unless you're trying to get out of the cruise, in which case there are easier ways to accomplish that.

Ethical (and physical and spiritual) duty should be enough to compel an honest response. 

[jsglow]

It's interesting to me that nobody has seemingly experienced this scenario.  OP, I might suggest you call Carnival and get clarification.  I sure would want to know my potential fate before boarding a plane only to get denied at the pier, not saying you will.

[kwbrad]

2 hours ago, jsglow said:

It's interesting to me that nobody has seemingly experienced this scenario.  OP, I might suggest you call Carnival and get clarification.  I sure would want to know my potential fate before boarding a plane only to get denied at the pier, not saying you will.

Right?  I find it hard to believe hubby is the first person to know for a fact he came in contact with a covid positive person within 14 days of the cruise.  

We are driving, not flying, and it is just a 4 hour drive from here.  Plan is to answer (truthfully) the health assessment, then when we get the uh oh screen with the phone number, call and talk to them.  Find out what the chances are of getting on and make a decision from there.  I am pretty sure they are going to say nope and we will get a future cruise credit.  

 

Thanks everyone for the input.  

[mz-s]

12 minutes ago, kwbrad said:

Right?  I find it hard to believe hubby is the first person to know for a fact he came in contact with a covid positive person within 14 days of the cruise.  

We are driving, not flying, and it is just a 4 hour drive from here.  Plan is to answer (truthfully) the health assessment, then when we get the uh oh screen with the phone number, call and talk to them.  Find out what the chances are of getting on and make a decision from there.  I am pretty sure they are going to say nope and we will get a future cruise credit.  

 

Thanks everyone for the input.  

 

Everyone is exposed to COVID within 14 days of their cruise embarkation date, especially since Omicron. Unless they just stay in bed for the 2 weeks before their cruise and arrive at the pier in a hyperbaric chamber I guess. It's just that it doesn't help anything by answering yes to that question. It just causes more work and stress for everyone involved.

 

The only reason to answer yes to that question is if you want to get out of the cruise. In which case there are easier ways to accomplish that.

Edited July 12, 2022 by mz-s

[kwbrad]

25 minutes ago, mz-s said:

 

Everyone is exposed to COVID within 14 days of their cruise embarkation date, especially since Omicron. Unless they just stay in bed for the 2 weeks before their cruise and arrive at the pier in a hyperbaric chamber I guess. It's just that it doesn't help anything by answering yes to that question. It just causes more work and stress for everyone involved.

 

The only reason to answer yes to that question is if you want to get out of the cruise. In which case there are easier ways to accomplish that.

 

Again, I am NOT trying to get out of the cruise.  I am pissed off I am going to miss it, and pissed at my hubby's friend that went to lunch knowing he felt bad but didn't tell anyone until he tested positive later that same day.  Hubby will answer yes to that question because he is an honest individual, and is going to get penalized for being honest.  But I cannot fault him for having integrity.  So please stop with the "if you want to get out of the cruise" nonsense because everyone that knows me knows I love cruising and want to be on board more than home lol.  

[Hoosierpop]

22 minutes ago, kwbrad said:

 

Again, I am NOT trying to get out of the cruise.  I am pissed off I am going to miss it, and pissed at my hubby's friend that went to lunch knowing he felt bad but didn't tell anyone until he tested positive later that same day.  Hubby will answer yes to that question because he is an honest individual, and is going to get penalized for being honest.  But I cannot fault him for having integrity.  So please stop with the "if you want to get out of the cruise" nonsense because everyone that knows me knows I love cruising and want to be on board more than home lol.  

Just so I understand, your husband will have a negative test result, has no symptoms, but you may not get to cruise because you said yes, he was exposed to someone within 14 days. 
 

I think the reason know one has an answer the question as to what happens if they say yes is, the percentage of people answering no is as close to 100% as you can get. And there is no scientific reason not to let your husband on that ship even with a yes answer. 
 

We all have to make decisions in life. There is a 100% chance I would be on that cruise. 

[mz-s]

28 minutes ago, kwbrad said:

 

Again, I am NOT trying to get out of the cruise.  I am pissed off I am going to miss it, and pissed at my hubby's friend that went to lunch knowing he felt bad but didn't tell anyone until he tested positive later that same day.  Hubby will answer yes to that question because he is an honest individual, and is going to get penalized for being honest.  But I cannot fault him for having integrity.  So please stop with the "if you want to get out of the cruise" nonsense because everyone that knows me knows I love cruising and want to be on board more than home lol.  

 

I am saying we are all exposed to COVID every day. It is everywhere. Unless you stay at home and arrive to the pier in a hyperbaric chamber anyway. There is absolutely no benefit to answering truthfully to that question. You're not going to get brownie points for answering truthfully. All you are doing is causing stress and additional paperwork. You may get to see the ship leave from the pier, that is always a wonderful view. Carnival asks the question because the government tells them to. It's just bureaucracy. It's not a useful public health tool.

 

But everyone has to make these kinds of decisions for themselves.

[Hoosierpop]

Also, this is 100% my personal opinion but I think you’ll get on even answering yes. You have a negative test, asymptomatic, so it just seems weird that Carnival would give up that revenue just because of that one answer. Which is why I, personally, wouldn’t risk it. But I understand the desire for accuracy. 

[mz-s]

Just now, Hoosierpop said:

Also, this is 100% my personal opinion but I think you’ll get on even answering yes. You have a negative test, asymptomatic, so it just seems weird that Carnival would give up that revenue just because of that one answer. Which is why I, personally, wouldn’t risk it. But I understand the desire for accuracy. 

 

I think so too, I'd assume that given a negative test and asymptomatic they'll be allowed to board. They might have to take a rapid test at the pier if the ship's medical staff sees it as necessary. And they could be denied boarding. But I'd say it's unlikely.

[wemjam]

1 hour ago, mz-s said:

 

I am saying we are all exposed to COVID every day. It is everywhere. Unless you stay at home and arrive to the pier in a hyperbaric chamber anyway. There is absolutely no benefit to answering truthfully to that question. You're not going to get brownie points for answering truthfully. All you are doing is causing stress and additional paperwork. You may get to see the ship leave from the pier, that is always a wonderful view. Carnival asks the question because the government tells them to. It's just bureaucracy. It's not a useful public health tool.

 

But everyone has to make these kinds of decisions for themselves.

So because you insist that EVERYONE is exposed then they should just lie about it?  The difference is while we all likely may be exposed in our everyday life, no one - not even you - can just assume that everyone is exposed.  The question isn't do you "think" you were exposed, it is "were you" exposed.  The point of the questionnaire is to determine if you know you have exposure, as the OP hubby does.  Answering honestly is the right thing to do for the "greater" good of everyone on the ship, isn't that the point? 

 

I too am sure that most people will not answer yes to this question even if they know they were exposed because they are thinking only of themselves and missing out on their vacation.  I get it, that's a tough thing to happen.  But you know what - it also isn't right of you to assume the worst of someone that is in reality doing the right thing.  You immediately jump on them that they must be trying to get out of their cruise why else would someone do something so foolish?   In reality the OP's husband is just a man of the highest integrity that likely answers to a higher power in his heart.  I commend him.  The world is coming to what it is because most people think only of themselves... its the me, me, me syndrome.

 

If the OP's hubby has his convictions then I say answer yes.  Carnival may or may not deny boarding, they may just be required to go through additional testing which may delay their boarding a little.  Again big deal, the ship isn't leaving without them (again the me, me, me syndrome - got to beat everyone on the ship).  And worse case, if they can't go, at least he can sleep at night knowing he did the right thing and didn't sell out over a few bobbles.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[mz-s]

10 minutes ago, wemjam said:

So because you insist that EVERYONE is exposed then they should just lie about it?  The difference is while we all likely may be exposed in our everyday life, no one - not even you - can just assume that everyone is exposed.  The question isn't do you "think" you were exposed, it is "were you" exposed.  The point of the questionnaire is to determine if you know you have exposure, as the OP hubby does.  Answering honestly is the right thing to do for the "greater" good of everyone on the ship, isn't that the point? 

 

I too am sure that most people will not answer yes to this question even if they know they were exposed because they are thinking only of themselves and missing out on their vacation.  I get it, that's a tough thing to happen.  But you know what - it also isn't right of you to assume the worst of someone that is in reality doing the right thing.  You immediately jump on them that they must be trying to get out of their cruise why else would someone do something so foolish?   In reality the OP's husband is just a man of the highest integrity that likely answers to a higher power in his heart.  I commend him.  The world is coming to what it is because most people think only of themselves... its the me, me, me syndrome.

 

If the OP's hubby has his convictions then I say answer yes.  Carnival may or may not deny boarding, they may just be required to go through additional testing which may delay their boarding a little.  Again big deal, the ship isn't leaving without them (again the me, me, me syndrome - got to beat everyone on the ship).  And worse case, if they can't go, at least he can sleep at night knowing he did the right thing and didn't sell out over a few bobbles.

 

Spare me the "greater good" narrative if you don't mind, I've had my fill of that over the past nearly 3 years.

[wemjam]

2 minutes ago, mz-s said:

 

Spare me the "greater good" narrative if you don't mind, I've had my fill of that over the past nearly 3 years.

Spare me criticizing others for doing good, OP didn't deserve it 

[mz-s]

1 minute ago, wemjam said:

Spare me criticizing others for doing good, OP didn't deserve it 

 

Maybe when they actually do something good you can cheer them on.

[wemjam]

1 minute ago, mz-s said:

 

Maybe when they actually do something good you can cheer them on.

You are just a ray of sunshine.

[mz-s]

3 minutes ago, wemjam said:

You are just a ray of sunshine.

 

Spare the ad hominem attacks if you don't mind.