Jimmycruiser Posted March 4, 2023 #51 Share Posted March 4, 2023 20 hours ago, ak1004 said: Things that matter to me don’t matter to you and vice versa. Kind of trivial Watson.. You said “YOU can find value” in your post meaning others can, that is why I took an exception. Had you said “I find value”, I would not have questioned it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daveywavey70 Posted March 5, 2023 #52 Share Posted March 5, 2023 On 2/26/2023 at 4:25 AM, AtA said: You do realize I hope that the majority of the crew you'll never, ever see? So you could have the same number of crew to pax on 2 different lines, where one line has more crew serving pax versus another line having more people working the ship that you'll never see. Given the age of the ships I'd imagine half of them work in Maintenance! 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Luxury Posted March 5, 2023 #53 Share Posted March 5, 2023 Just now, Daveywavey70 said: Given the age of the ships I'd imagine half of them work in Maintenance! There'll be Oarsmen as back up. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtA Posted March 6, 2023 #54 Share Posted March 6, 2023 (edited) On 2/24/2023 at 6:28 PM, Mr Luxury said: You're right but just look at the Explora. What a good looking ship. Yes but no main restaurant. No main theater. No known lecturers or even if there will be lecturers. (However you can take a tour of the ship with the Captain.) No known entertainers. No known classes. Yes I know we don't know if those will be back on NC, but I'm betting some of those will be. Personally we don't book because the ship looks good but because of everything else. Edited March 6, 2023 by AtA 3 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Stickman1990 Posted March 6, 2023 #55 Share Posted March 6, 2023 1 hour ago, AtA said: Yes but no main restaurant..... Personally we don't book because the ship looks good but because of everything else. I believe there are at least 6 restaurants on Explora 1 plus in suite dining - https://explorajourneys.com/it/en/life-on-explora/dining - do they really need a main dining room? Who cares what it looks like - the overall cruise experience is what will matter Right now the jury is still out on BOTH Explora and new Crystal - there are a ton of questions unanswered about what new Crystal will offer but many of us have not bothered asking them at this stage as they're still working on the offerings How anyone can suggest they know what new Crystal is going to be like is beyond me - there's a lot of faith in what they should deliver right now Oh I know - time will tell - and yes that's correct 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daveywavey70 Posted March 6, 2023 #56 Share Posted March 6, 2023 10 hours ago, AtA said: Yes but no main restaurant. No main theater. No known lecturers or even if there will be lecturers. (However you can take a tour of the ship with the Captain.) No known entertainers. No known classes. Yes I know we don't know if those will be back on NC, but I'm betting some of those will be. Personally we don't book because the ship looks good but because of everything else. Most of these are pluses for us. MDR's always remind me of the school canteen, we much prefer smaller and speciality restaurants. We rarely attend lectures or classes and on our last SS cruise skipped all of the shows. It would be a boring world if we were all the same. We're loving the look of the Explora 1 and will definitely be considering them. Its a shame they've stuck with the Caribbean for their first 2 winters though but I suppose it's a tried and tested market. I, personally would have preferred something a bit more interesting, South America, Amazon, Asia and so on. The ships look perfect for visiting these places and it would certainly feel more like an Explora-tion than visiting the same Islands that dozens of the floating, behemoth gin palaces already puckfoist their thousands of passengers onto daily. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare May B Posted March 6, 2023 #57 Share Posted March 6, 2023 On 3/3/2023 at 1:36 PM, ak1004 said: P.S. Actually on some things you CAN put a monetary value. One portion of black caviar is around $50. 2 portions per day on a 10 nights cruise = $1,000 per person.. Which I don’t want to be paying for. But in actuality, how much does the budget include? One portion/day/half the cruisers? So then my cruise fare would include $250 for caviar. More tolerable for me, and I might use $50 or $100 of that. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare ak1004 Posted March 6, 2023 #58 Share Posted March 6, 2023 14 minutes ago, May B said: Which I don’t want to be paying for. But in actuality, how much does the budget include? One portion/day/half the cruisers? So then my cruise fare would include $250 for caviar. More tolerable for me, and I might use $50 or $100 of that. and yet they are cheaper than Crystal, with the caviar budget.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare May B Posted March 6, 2023 #59 Share Posted March 6, 2023 1 minute ago, ak1004 said: and yet they are cheaper than Crystal, with the caviar budget.. That implies I can expect more to my liking on NC. Time will tell. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare ak1004 Posted March 6, 2023 #60 Share Posted March 6, 2023 4 minutes ago, May B said: That implies I can expect more to my liking on NC. Time will tell. Not sure how you came to that conclusion. But i’m sure you will.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Luxury Posted March 6, 2023 #61 Share Posted March 6, 2023 2 hours ago, ak1004 said: Not sure how you came to that conclusion. But i’m sure you will.. Let's not let facts get in the way of any decisions here. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankhi Posted March 6, 2023 #62 Share Posted March 6, 2023 (edited) We're loving the look of the Explora 1 and will definitely be considering them. Its a shame they've stuck with the Caribbean for their first 2 winters though but I suppose it's a tried and tested market. Explora 1 is in the Caribbean in the winter, but not Explora 2 Edited March 6, 2023 by frankhi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daveywavey70 Posted March 6, 2023 #63 Share Posted March 6, 2023 38 minutes ago, frankhi said: We're loving the look of the Explora 1 and will definitely be considering them. Its a shame they've stuck with the Caribbean for their first 2 winters though but I suppose it's a tried and tested market. Explora 1 is in the Caribbean in the winter, but not Explora 2 Great news, when I last looked I couldn't see anything other than Caribbean. It was a while back though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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