lightsleeper Posted September 16, 2023 #1 Share Posted September 16, 2023 I just sailed two segments, Rome to Barcelona then Barcelona to Lisbon. Those individuals on the first segment were awarded a club point as were those on the second segment. Two points were given out. But, I was only awarded one club point, since my journey was labeled as Rome to Lisbon. Fair? We have another two segment cruise booked and I want the applicable points to advance up the club ladder, Suggestions Joe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cswhistler Posted September 16, 2023 #2 Share Posted September 16, 2023 This was explained to me on board. If booking two separate cruises the price is higher and thus you actually pay more and get more cruise credits. My booking for Jan 31 24 for 18 days on Vista was going to cost $1200 more if booked separately. I don't like it. I think the only fair way would be to give you credit for each day on board. We have done a lot of long cruises and those days add up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flatbush Flyer Posted September 16, 2023 #3 Share Posted September 16, 2023 1 hour ago, lightsleeper said: I just sailed two segments, Rome to Barcelona then Barcelona to Lisbon. Those individuals on the first segment were awarded a club point as were those on the second segment. Two points were given out. But, I was only awarded one club point, since my journey was labeled as Rome to Lisbon. Fair? We have another two segment cruise booked and I want the applicable points to advance up the club ladder, Suggestions Joe All depends on how you book multi-segments. 1. Separate cruises (2 booking numbers and no fare discount?) Cruise credits are per segment days per chart. 2. “Extended Journey” (2 or more segments marketed as a single cruise with best aggregate fare discount; single booking number?) Cruise Credits are per total cruise days per chart. 3. “Custom Cruise” (2 or more segments not marketed as an “extended journey” but with approx 5% discount per segment; single booking number?) Cruise credits (and O Club perks) are per segment. Though the fare discount may not be as robust as the extended journey one, the added O Club perks per segment can be substantial if you are a Platinum (or even just Gold O Club member) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare LHT28 Posted September 16, 2023 #4 Share Posted September 16, 2023 I agree you should be able to book as separate cruises but if marketed as a GV they count as one cruise unless over 24 days you get a single creditt https://www.oceaniacruises.com/oceania-club-benefits We used to book B2B with 2 booking numbers but I guess Oceania cut back on giving more credits by combining the cruises now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WayneLaR Posted September 17, 2023 #5 Share Posted September 17, 2023 16 hours ago, cswhistler said: This was explained to me on board. If booking two separate cruises the price is higher and thus you actually pay more and get more cruise credits. My booking for Jan 31 24 for 18 days on Vista was going to cost $1200 more if booked separately. I don't like it. I think the only fair way would be to give you credit for each day on board. We have done a lot of long cruises and those days add up. Agree on the number of days on board as the more equitable way to award points. My next three O cruises are 20, 14 and 15 days. 3 cruise credits for 49 total days on board. Someone booking 3, 7-day itineraries. will earn the same credits. Come on. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartfelttraveler Posted September 17, 2023 #6 Share Posted September 17, 2023 Same frustration because, same points awarded per cruise for an Ocean View cabin or the Owner’s Suite. I like Oceania, so I accept their terms. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare ORV Posted September 17, 2023 #7 Share Posted September 17, 2023 1 hour ago, Heartfelttraveler said: Same frustration because, same points awarded per cruise for an Ocean View cabin or the Owner’s Suite. I like Oceania, so I accept their terms. The last thing I would want to see is Loyalty awarded by how much you're paying for your cabin. That's Mass Market class division stuff, which Oceania really doesn't do. The system is certainly not perfect, but I'd hate to see it based on dollar spend like Celebrity changed to a few years ago. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elbowroom Posted September 17, 2023 #8 Share Posted September 17, 2023 Have you noticed the relatively high number of 24 day voyages to the comparatively lower number of 25 day ones? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redtravel Posted September 17, 2023 #9 Share Posted September 17, 2023 Agree. We booked a “grand voyage” not realizing that it really a b2b. We got one credit. We did get double restaurant reservations. We were told that if Oceania lists a cruise as”grand”, you cannot book 2 separate cruises. Is it fair? No! Only fair way is to count the number of nights. Some cruise lines have revamped the way they award loyalty points. Be happy that you get anything for loyalty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare ORV Posted September 17, 2023 #10 Share Posted September 17, 2023 19 minutes ago, Redtravel said: Only fair way is to count the number of nights. Which is exactly what they do. It's just their numbers don't always make people happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartfelttraveler Posted September 17, 2023 #11 Share Posted September 17, 2023 18 minutes ago, ORV said: Which is exactly what they do. It's just their numbers don't always make people happy. They count the number of bookings. One booking is one point whether it is 7 nights or 15 nights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare 1985rz1 Posted September 17, 2023 #12 Share Posted September 17, 2023 3 hours ago, Heartfelttraveler said: They count the number of bookings. One booking is one point whether it is 7 nights or 15 nights. It flips to 2 points at 25 nights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartfelttraveler Posted September 18, 2023 #13 Share Posted September 18, 2023 8 hours ago, ORV said: The last thing I would want to see is Loyalty awarded by how much you're paying for your cabin. That's Mass Market class division stuff, which Oceania really doesn't do. The system is certainly not perfect, but I'd hate to see it based on dollar spend like Celebrity changed to a few years ago. I don't see your point. How would that be "Mass Market class division stuff?" Nobody knows how much you paid for your cabin, or how many cruises you have taken. I don't let the loyalty program stop me from booking Oceania, they are one of my favorite cruise lines. (Or any other cruise line for that matter.) I book cruises by 1. where i want to travel/itinerary, 2. What cabins are available, and 3. Price. I am not looking to argue with you. We all have our opinions of what and how we spend our disposable income. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osandomir Posted September 18, 2023 #14 Share Posted September 18, 2023 26 minutes ago, Heartfelttraveler said: I don't see your point. How would that be "Mass Market class division stuff?" Nobody knows how much you paid for your cabin, or how many cruises you have taken. I don't let the loyalty program stop me from booking Oceania, they are one of my favorite cruise lines. (Or any other cruise line for that matter.) I book cruises by 1. where i want to travel/itinerary, 2. What cabins are available, and 3. Price. I am not looking to argue with you. We all have our opinions of what and how we spend our disposable income. It’s actually Oceania LOYALTY Program, so they decided to award for the loyalty to the cruise line by the number of cruises taken and in some way for the time spent onboard, but not for the amount of money spent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare ORV Posted September 18, 2023 #15 Share Posted September 18, 2023 6 hours ago, Heartfelttraveler said: They count the number of bookings. One booking is one point whether it is 7 nights or 15 nights. Actually, there is a chart that shows the breakdown, I'll see if I can post it. Obviously it's by days cruised. SO, if you take one cruise that's over 25 days, it's 2 credits. Nothing to do with the number of bookings. For example, a person can book an Around the World Cruise and in ONE booking get 15 credits and automatically be at the Gold level when they step on board, even if they've never been on Oceania before. Also not looking to argue, just trying to explain to you how the Oceania program works. I've been doing this for a while now, so I'm pretty familiar with the drill. As to your other post, yes, awarding points by cabin level and amount of money spent is very much class division mass market stuff. 1 CREDIT up to 24 days 2 CREDITS 25-34 days 3 CREDITS 35-44 days 4 CREDITS 45-54 days 5 CREDITS 55-64 days 7 CREDITS 65-99 days 10 CREDITS 100-157 days 15 CREDITS 158+ day 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RetiredLifer Posted September 18, 2023 #16 Share Posted September 18, 2023 11 hours ago, Heartfelttraveler said: Same frustration because, same points awarded per cruise for an Ocean View cabin or the Owner’s Suite. I like Oceania, so I accept their terms. You are right but the free cruise payoff is: ”Stateroom category will reflect the accommodations most closely matching the typical category selected by the guests on prior voyages.” so if your points are from an Ocean view cabin then that is what your free cruise is. We averaged a concierge cabin so that is what we got for our “free cruise.” https://www.oceaniacruises.com/legal/promotion-terms/ 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartfelttraveler Posted September 18, 2023 #17 Share Posted September 18, 2023 If you take a 7-night cruise or a 20-night cruise - you get one credit. If your 7-night cruise cost $3,500 pp or your 20-night cruise cost $31,000 pp - you get one credit. What Oceania does not have is the ship-within-a-ship atmosphere - which does foster elitism. Everyone has the same run of the ship and pays the same up charge for extras. Again, I am not complaining. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firsttimers68 Posted September 18, 2023 #18 Share Posted September 18, 2023 4 hours ago, Heartfelttraveler said: If you take a 7-night cruise or a 20-night cruise - you get one credit. If your 7-night cruise cost $3,500 pp or your 20-night cruise cost $31,000 pp - you get one credit. What Oceania does not have is the ship-within-a-ship atmosphere - which does foster elitism. Everyone has the same run of the ship and pays the same up charge for extras. Again, I am not complaining. Actually that's not quite correct. Not everyone can access the Concierge or Executive lounges. Same goes for spa deck. Sorry to sound pedantic...... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare 1985rz1 Posted September 18, 2023 #19 Share Posted September 18, 2023 (edited) 7 hours ago, firsttimers68 said: Actually that's not quite correct. Not everyone can access the Concierge or Executive lounges. Same goes for spa deck. Sorry to sound pedantic...... Correct on the lounges, but anyone can access the spa deck, with a fee that's included for the higher categories. Edited September 18, 2023 by 1985rz1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firsttimers68 Posted September 19, 2023 #20 Share Posted September 19, 2023 12 hours ago, 1985rz1 said: Correct on the lounges, but anyone can access the spa deck, with a fee that's included for the higher categories. Which means not everyone pays the same uncharges as the poster suggested, hence my comment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare LHT28 Posted September 19, 2023 #21 Share Posted September 19, 2023 9 hours ago, firsttimers68 said: Which means not everyone pays the same uncharges as the poster suggested, hence my comment. The lounges are not really anything special There is also no special dining room or pool for Upper suite guest like on some other lines eg Cunard Nor the ship within a ship lines Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare 1985rz1 Posted September 19, 2023 #22 Share Posted September 19, 2023 11 hours ago, firsttimers68 said: Which means not everyone pays the same uncharges as the poster suggested, hence my comment. Sorry if you misunderstood. I was simply saying that unlike the lounges, everyone does have access to the spa deck, but that there is a fee. You suggested that not all folks have access to the spa. It may be a pedantic subtlety, but yes, everyone pays one way or another for that access. This is different in that there is no option to pay for lounge access if you're not in a concierge or hight stateroom or suite. On the other hand that access isn't really much of a perk. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabbycat Posted September 19, 2023 #23 Share Posted September 19, 2023 On 9/16/2023 at 3:50 PM, Flatbush Flyer said: All depends on how you book multi-segments. 1. Separate cruises (2 booking numbers and no fare discount?) Cruise credits are per segment days per chart. 2. “Extended Journey” (2 or more segments marketed as a single cruise with best aggregate fare discount; single booking number?) Cruise Credits are per total cruise days per chart. 3. “Custom Cruise” (2 or more segments not marketed as an “extended journey” but with approx 5% discount per segment; single booking number?) Cruise credits (and O Club perks) are per segment. Though the fare discount may not be as robust as the extended journey one, the added O Club perks per segment can be substantial if you are a Platinum (or even just Gold O Club member) Except for dinning reservations they treat it as two separate cruises. On my upcoming cruise with is a combination of a 7 and 14 cruise, I have to have my first 4 dining reservations in the first 7 days and then the last 4 in the later 14 days. Makes no sense to me since it is one booking number. It is either one cruise and one cruise credit and I can book my eight reservations anytime over the 21 days, or it is two cruises and I get to two credits, I have limitations on my restaurant booking. They don't get to play it both ways. 🤦♀️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare 1985rz1 Posted September 19, 2023 #24 Share Posted September 19, 2023 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Sabbycat said: Except for dinning reservations they treat it as two separate cruises. On my upcoming cruise with is a combination of a 7 and 14 cruise, I have to have my first 4 dining reservations in the first 7 days and then the last 4 in the later 14 days. Makes no sense to me since it is one booking number. It is either one cruise and one cruise credit and I can book my eight reservations anytime over the 21 days, or it is two cruises and I get to two credits, I have limitations on my restaurant booking. They don't get to play it both ways. 🤦♀️ I don't like the way O counts club points either, but I do understand that O wants to even the playing field for those guests on one or the other segments. Booking are especially difficult on short cruises, and it would be a shame if the guests on the combined cruise filled up the slots on the first segment or vice-versa. Remember these are only pre-cruise reservations. So once on board, you should give the reservations desk a chance to get you what you want, since you aren't limited to the pre-cruise number. Edited September 19, 2023 by 1985rz1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firsttimers68 Posted September 21, 2023 #25 Share Posted September 21, 2023 On 9/19/2023 at 6:15 PM, 1985rz1 said: Sorry if you misunderstood. I was simply saying that unlike the lounges, everyone does have access to the spa deck, but that there is a fee. You suggested that not all folks have access to the spa. It may be a pedantic subtlety, but yes, everyone pays one way or another for that access. This is different in that there is no option to pay for lounge access if you're not in a concierge or hight stateroom or suite. On the other hand that access isn't really much of a perk. No, I didn't misunderstand, It's me not explaining properly in my first post! I of course meant not everyone has "free" access to spa area, some have it as a perk, as you also say. 🙂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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