Why do you not enforce the rules you have onboard?

[DaKahuna]

3 hours ago, pete_coach said:

So I ask you, do you approve of all the rules onboard?

 

 Yes, which is what I am doing when I 'sign' the cruise contract the same as you.

 

3 hours ago, pete_coach said:

 

Do you lke to be told what to do and wear while on vacation?

 

 I do not look at it as so much being told what to do or wear but more being told what acceptable dress code and behavior is and having agreed to abide by it by choosing to cruise with that particular cruise line.  

 

[pete_coach]

3 minutes ago, WrittenOnYourHeart said:

 

What cafeteria have you been to where you don't go through a line to get your food??

 

2 minutes ago, DaKahuna said:

 

 Yes, which is what I am doing when I 'sign' the cruise contract the same as you.

 

 

 I do not look at it as so much being told what to do or wear but more being told what acceptable dress code and behavior is and having agreed to abide by it by choosing to cruise with that particular cruise line.  

 

Mellow out folks.

You are taking this way too personally.

As I said, you do you and I do me and we do not have to agree.

[BridgeMates]

I kept telling myself I wouldn't get into this but.....

After 10-15 years of mostly Celebrity we took the family on a RC cruise last month to celebrate

our 65th anniversary.  We started out with many RC cruises when younger but found Celebrity to be a bit more upscale but not as pricey as others, and it's suits us just fine.  You don't often see shorts (men or women) in the DR but it's definitely not as "dressy" as it used to be.  The comparison with RC is totally different.  On our Harmony cruise, there were lots of shorts, flip flops, baseball hats (frontward and backward), just more casual,  which suits the many families having a wonderful vacation without regard to formalities.  

We prefer Celebrity continue to request guests to remove hats, wear shoes (even tennis shoes), and dress up just a little in the DR.   Is putting on a pair of pants and a short too much to ask? The buffet is perfect if you're not interested in doing that.

Thank you for the opportunity to comment.  Happy cruising all! 

 

 

[ggo85]

Many restaurants on land have dress codes.  Most county clubs do.  There are also "unspoken" dress codes.  I don't think most people would walk into a Ruth's Chris steakhouse wearing the same attire they would wear to McDonalds.  Or I would certainly hope not. 

[pete_coach]

2 hours ago, ggo85 said:

Many restaurants on land have dress codes.  Most county clubs do.  There are also "unspoken" dress codes.  I don't think most people would walk into a Ruth's Chris steakhouse wearing the same attire they would wear to McDonalds.  Or I would certainly hope not. 

I certainly hope you are not comparing Ruth Chris with the MDR on a cruse ship? LOL Perhaps Murano or Tuscan Grill but the MDR??

And i disagree, We go out for dinner a lot and short of higher end eateries, there is no dress codes. They want and need all customers, especially since the pandemic crisis

We have sailed on several cruise lines, river cruses as well, and in their specialty restaurants there is a dress requirement but we have not had restrictions (within reason) in the MDR.

It seems some folks on the Celebrity forums are obsessed with dress. I started this topic and my question was why rules are not enforced , regardless of the rule,b ut somehow it became a dress discussion. I find it hilarious that some folks are so upset at what others are wearing. I am quite sure the food, service and decorum remains the same if a man is wearing shorts or a woman is wearing a halter top and skin tight leggings (which I have seen). Legs are under the table and unseen . 🙂
🙂

Edited July 25 by pete_coach

[ggo85]

Not comparing Ruth’s to MDR.  Just that dress codes aren’t unique to cruise ships. And I agree that they should be enforced. 
 

We were on Silversea at a time when men had to wear jackets for dinner in the main restaurant.  One guy showed up without one.  They gave him a loaner.  Now, some guys wore the jacket in the door and then promptly took it off and put it on the chair back. Go figure.  

[Ex-Airbalancer]

4 minutes ago, ggo85 said:

Not comparing Ruth’s to MDR.  Just that dress codes aren’t unique to cruise ships. And I agree that they should be enforced. 
 

We were on Silversea at a time when men had to wear jackets for dinner in the main restaurant.  One guy showed up without one.  They gave him a loaner.  Now, some guys wore the jacket in the door and then promptly took it off and put it on the chair back. Go figure.  

It was the same on Celebrity not that long ago 

[publicpersona]

On 7/23/2024 at 3:25 PM, Laura Hodges Bethge said:

Thank you for bringing this to our attention. Our crew are trained to enforce the rules onboard

 

I've been cruising Celebrity regularly for many years and I have never ever seen any attempt on any ship to manage the pool lounge chairs. All you have to do is go to the Solarium around 7-8 AM and see every chair has debris left by selfish people to reserve "their" chairs for the day. You know this is happening. And it shouldn't be that hard to correct.

[1Virgo]

Well,  on cruise now and I will add that some parents are non compliant with children and diapers. Big sign”Health laws prevent diapers, swim diapers and children not 100% toilet trained, in the pool”

We saw a mom with about a 10 month old, diapered, putting him in and out of the water. No security or staff to tell.  Then we saw a young girl, either a tall3 year old or 4. Swimsuit but her swim diaper was sticking out of the legs.  She was definitely wet but we did not see her in the water

That was in the space of 20 minutes.  Not sanitary   We won’t be using the pool 

[JordanF]

As to dress in the dining room:  While enforcement is sporadic and while some people violate the minimum standards, I find that the vast majority meet the minimum standards on their own.  So while there are a few scofflaws, I don't find the level of violation to be out of hand.

 

As to chair hogs:  This one is out of hand!  I have long ago given up on this, and just hunted down a lounger somewhere.  Every once and a while my wife and I even get one next to each other!  I realize how difficult enforcement would be, and have gone through all the stages of grief and am now at acceptance.

[Ex-Airbalancer]

42 minutes ago, 1Virgo said:

Well,  on cruise now and I will add that some parents are non compliant with children and diapers. Big sign”Health laws prevent diapers, swim diapers and children not 100% toilet trained, in the pool”

We saw a mom with about a 10 month old, diapered, putting him in and out of the water. No security or staff to tell.  Then we saw a young girl, either a tall3 year old or 4. Swimsuit but her swim diaper was sticking out of the legs.  She was definitely wet but we did not see her in the water

That was in the space of 20 minutes.  Not sanitary   We won’t be using the pool 

 

 

16 minutes ago, JordanF said:

As to dress in the dining room:  While enforcement is sporadic and while some people violate the minimum standards, I find that the vast majority meet the minimum standards on their own.  So while there are a few scofflaws, I don't find the level of violation to be out of hand.

 

As to chair hogs:  This one is out of hand!  I have long ago given up on this, and just hunted down a lounger somewhere.  Every once and a while my wife and I even get one next to each other!  I realize how difficult enforcement would be, and have gone through all the stages of grief and am now at acceptance.

The joys of doing Transatlantic cross,

very few children , usually officer’s children, very few chair hogs  and people usually  respect the dress code 

😉😁

[DaKahuna]

6 hours ago, pete_coach said:

We have sailed on several cruise lines, river cruses as well, and in their specialty restaurants there is a dress requirement but we have not had restrictions (within reason) in the MDR.

 

 If wearing shorts to dinner is so important to you then I strongly suggest that you sail on those other cruise lines that do not have a dress code.  Celebrity has one and when you accept the cruise contract by paying for your cruise then you are saying you will abide by it.  Why is it so damn hard?  Either do or don't do, I could care less but I do care that you are trying to ruin it for the rest of us that chose to go by the rules and expects everyone else to do the same. 

 

 

[ggo85]

Two issues -- distinct yet related.  

 

One is dress code.  Currently, the policy on X is no shorts for guys at dinner in the MDR.  If someone doesn't  like that policy, they should find a cruise line that doesn't have that policy.  Until very recently, Silversea required that men wear jackets at dinner (most venues).  If DH didn't want to wear a jacket, we either went to a venue on SS that didn't require it or we sailed on another line.  He didn't just show up without one.  (FYI, SS no longer requires men to wear jackets).

 

Two is policy enforcement.  If a cruise line has a dress code, they should enforce it or change it.  On SS, I NEVER saw a man without a jacket in a venue that required them.  If you showed up w/o a jacket, you were politely informed of your options (go back and get a jacket, borrow one of theirs, eat in a different venue).

 

Most people here are suggesting that, if you don't like the"rules" (policies) on a particular cruise line, rather than ignore/violate/flaunt them, find a line where the policies are more to your liking.   Not following the "rules" -- whether hogging chairs or wearing flip flops and tank shirts to dinner in the MDR -- is discourteous to your fellow guests who may have selected this line in part b/c they do like its policies).

 

And fully agree that the line should enforce their policies . . . or change / eliminate them.  

Edited July 26 by ggo85

[lv2cruisgrl]

On 7/25/2024 at 9:47 AM, BridgeMates said:

I kept telling myself I wouldn't get into this but.....

After 10-15 years of mostly Celebrity we took the family on a RC cruise last month to celebrate

our 65th anniversary.  We started out with many RC cruises when younger but found Celebrity to be a bit more upscale but not as pricey as others, and it's suits us just fine.  You don't often see shorts (men or women) in the DR but it's definitely not as "dressy" as it used to be.  The comparison with RC is totally different.  On our Harmony cruise, there were lots of shorts, flip flops, baseball hats (frontward and backward), just more casual,  which suits the many families having a wonderful vacation without regard to formalities.  

We prefer Celebrity continue to request guests to remove hats, wear shoes (even tennis shoes), and dress up just a little in the DR.   Is putting on a pair of pants and a short too much to ask? The buffet is perfect if you're not interested in doing that.

Thank you for the opportunity to comment.  Happy cruising all! 

 

 

Agree!  Will be interesting to see what we experience on our November cruise on Beyond.

[D. B.]

On 7/25/2024 at 10:24 AM, ggo85 said:

Not comparing Ruth’s to MDR.  Just that dress codes aren’t unique to cruise ships. And I agree that they should be enforced. 
 

We were on Silversea at a time when men had to wear jackets for dinner in the main restaurant.  One guy showed up without one.  They gave him a loaner.  Now, some guys wore the jacket in the door and then promptly took it off and put it on the chair back. Go figure.  

I was recently on a Silversea cruise and missed the daily planner's requirement of a Jacket (tie optional) THAT night at dinner and was turned away at the door. My bad.

[ggo85]

I think SS still requires a jacket on “formal” nights for most venues.  But those nights are few and there are venues where a jacket is not required. 
 

The point is that they do enforce their policies (as attested to by the above poster).  I’m in favor of that. If people don’t like the policy, there are dozens of other lines to choose from. 

[TheHawk1]

On 7/26/2024 at 11:21 AM, ggo85 said:

Most people here are suggesting that, if you don't like the"rules" (policies) on a particular cruise line, rather than ignore/violate/flaunt them, find a line where the policies are more to your liking.   Not following the "rules" -- whether hogging chairs or wearing flip flops and tank shirts to dinner in the MDR -- is discourteous to your fellow guests who may have selected this line in part b/c they do like its policies).

This is where it gets ridiculous, when people conflate the dress “code” with ship policies or rules. I absolutely agree that people should not be able to hog unused chairs for hours on end or smoke on their balcony or vape in the casino, as those are rules that directly impacts someone else’s enjoyment of their vacation. But as to how someone choosing to wear shorts in the MDR affects anyone else, I’m not buying it for a second.

[zitsky]

3 hours ago, TheHawk1 said:

This is where it gets ridiculous, when people conflate the dress “code” with ship policies or rules. I absolutely agree that people should not be able to hog unused chairs for hours on end or smoke on their balcony or vape in the casino, as those are rules that directly impacts someone else’s enjoyment of their vacation. But as to how someone choosing to wear shorts in the MDR affects anyone else, I’m not buying it for a second.

Just because you like seeing people dress like slobs doesn’t mean that everyone else likes it.  If you like that sort of thing, go to the buffet.

 

If I’m spending $50-100 pp on a specialty restaurant I like to see people wearing more than tshirts and ripped jeans.  I’m not asking them to wear a tuxedo for Christ’s sake.

 

[ggo85]

One "solution" might be to offer non-buffet dining venues where dress is more flexible. 

 

For example, on Edge class (where I believe there are 4 MDRs), have one "casual" MDR -- where you can wear shorts, flip flops, tanks, etc.  I would allow the waiters to dress more causally as well (collared shirts and pants).  Serve same food as other venues but in a more causal atmosphere for those who want it.  

 

Then enforce it!!  Those who show up at the other venues in "casual" clothing would be redirected to the place where they would be welcome.  Those who want a "dressier" atmosphere can eat where others are similarly attired.

 

It actually does bother me when someone (M or F) walks into the MDR at dinner wearing shorts, a tank top and a baseball cap.  But I have no problem providing those folks a place where they can order sit-down wearing what they want to wear.