Not another proper attire thread!

[osiebosie]

I called to see if we could go to the specialty restaurant (on another line) if DH was in a shirt and tie. No, he had to have his jacket. No big deal, he just wore his suit jacket.

 

Denise, you wear nude-colored heels with your birthday suit.

 

Shay

[calgarygary]

If we banned all threads involving opinions, this board would have no reason for being...

 

Drew, not trying to ban threads involving opinions. I get just as deeply involved in those as anybody else. However, I thought that a thread on attire that just dealt with facts, not opinions, would be a valuable tool to many and have a greater chance of not developing into a us vs. them thread.

[calgarygary]

We always dress to code, but on my Constellation cruise earlier this month, and on my Summit cruise last month, I saw first hand, with my own eyes, passengers who were denied entrance to the dining room on formal night, and on informal night. Once, a man and woman were wearing jeans and they were told to come back when properly dressed and another time a man was asked to leave when wearing shorts and a sleeveless t-shirt on informal night. Once, a group sitting at the same table were told they needed to dress to code on formal night when all 8 of them were in jeans, dockers and t-shirts. So, it does happen when you have a maitre'd who's vigilant.

 

Thank you for sharing. Can you clarify which ships the incidents happened on?

[Shipyard Cruiser]

If we banned all threads involving opinions, this board would have no reason for being...

 

Yes it would except there would be a lot of useful information.

 

Don't ban opinion, just put opinion threads somewhere and label it opinion and have fun.

[Host Anne]

Folks ~ we're not going to ban threads for people expressing their opinions. Allowing people to express their opinions and exchange information is the foundation of the message boards. Where a discussion becomes a problem is when a poster slams another member for posting their opinion. This becomes a violation of our Community Guidelines. Before submitting your reply, ask yourself if your post addresses the "topic" of the thread or is your post addressed "at another poster." Addressing the topic is permitted. Posts that address another member that in a way that violates our guidelines is not. Posts that address opinions about a topic and not about other members are usually within the Guidelines. If you are unsure of the Guidelines, please review them....they are pretty specific.

 

Here's a link to the Community Guidelines: http://www.cruisecritic.com/community/guide.cfm

[Fang]

I have seen two times people were turned away in the main dinning room.

 

First it was casual night and a family showed up in shorts and were told to either change or go to the casual dinning room.

 

Second, a man came in with blue jeans on a formal night and was told he had to change. He was very upset but left.

 

My family always dresses according to the dress code, in respect to the other cruise passengers. I do not think it is to much to ask.

[excitedofharpenden]

I'm a bit confused as to the purpose of this thread. As stated by the OP, it is not for the purpose of friendly debate (is there such a thing with dress codes?), but for facts. So that leaves us with a number of posters telling us they have seen people turned away from the dining and other venues around the ship for not wearing the attire of the evening. So what? Those of us that "get it" and dress appropriately will continue to do the same and I suspect that those that "don't get it" will do their thing. Do we need a thread to demonstrate what has been discussed infinitum on this board? Are we trying to work out a risk percentage? Well, I guess I just don't see it. This is of course my opinion, for what it's worth. I know you wanted facts and not opinions, but there you go:rolleyes:

 

Phil

[calgarygary]

I have seen two times people were turned away in the main dinning room.

 

First it was casual night and a family showed up in shorts and were told to either change or go to the casual dinning room.

 

Second, a man came in with blue jeans on a formal night and was told he had to change. He was very upset but left.

 

My family always dresses according to the dress code, in respect to the other cruise passengers. I do not think it is to much to ask.

 

Thank you for sharing, can you tell us when and on what ship that this occurred.

[calgarygary]

Folks ~ we're not going to ban threads for people expressing their opinions. Allowing people to express their opinions and exchange information is the foundation of the message boards. Where a discussion becomes a problem is when a poster slams another member for posting their opinion. This becomes a violation of our Community Guidelines. Before submitting your reply, ask yourself if your post addresses the "topic" of the thread or is your post addressed "at another poster." Addressing the topic is permitted. Posts that address another member that in a way that violates our guidelines is not. Posts that address opinions about a topic and not about other members are usually within the Guidelines. If you are unsure of the Guidelines, please review them....they are pretty specific.

 

Here's a link to the Community Guidelines: http://www.cruisecritic.com/community/guide.cfm

 

Sorry if my encouraging people to stay on point has violated guidelines. If my previous posts have done so, please pm me so that I will avoid similar mistakes in the future.

[Host Anne]

Calgary ~ no violations by you in the thread. I was simply pointing out that we don't "ban" threads for opinions as some have suggested. Asking folks to stay on topic is definitely permitted.

 

As for your question, I've fortunately been on enough cruises that I truly don't recall if I've seen someone turned away for dress code violations or not. Old age has it's benefits :) .

[calgarygary]

I'm a bit confused as to the purpose of this thread. As stated by the OP, it is not for the purpose of friendly debate (is there such a thing with dress codes?), but for facts. So that leaves us with a number of posters telling us they have seen people turned away from the dining and other venues around the ship for not wearing the attire of the evening. So what? Those of us that "get it" and dress appropriately will continue to do the same and I suspect that those that "don't get it" will do their thing. Do we need a thread to demonstrate what has been discussed infinitum on this board? Are we trying to work out a risk percentage? Well, I guess I just don't see it. This is of course my opinion, for what it's worth. I know you wanted facts and not opinions, but there you go:rolleyes:

 

Phil

 

Phil, as a new cruiser, I am trying to get a handle on what is actually occurring on the ships vs. what others (whether they adhere or don't adhere to dress codes or in your words - get it or don't get it) want to occur. It is all part of the education process especially for us newbies. For example, on this thread I have learned that the dress code may be more strictly enforced going to the theatre, which I didn't expect.

[kitty9]

Thank you for sharing. Can you clarify which ships the incidents happened on?

 

The large group was second seating on Summit and the man in shorts was also on Summit. The jeans couple was on Constellation.

[excitedofharpenden]

It is all part of the education process especially for us newbies. For example, on this thread I have learned that the dress code may be more strictly enforced going to the theatre, which I didn't expect.

OK, I'll give you my take. I think you do a disservice to new cruisers on this board if a thread such as this is trying to educate them. Bottom line. If you don't wear the requested attire of the evening on board, you MAY get turned away. Emphasis on the MAY. You run the risk of not being admitted, but then again you might be. If it is education on the dress code that you seek then a post "what are the dress code guidelines on Celebrity?" would have done the trick. JMHO.

 

Phil

[CatServants]

As for your question, I've fortunately been on enough cruises that I truly don't recall if I've seen someone turned away for dress code violations or not. Old age has it's benefits :) .

 

 

I'm with you on this one Host Anne! Sadly, in my case, it's NOT from having been on lots of cruises (you lucky lady!;)). I've never been seated near an entrance, and never happened to be at an entrance, when someone was denied entry. So, no, I've never noticed anyone being denied entry into any venue because of attire.

 

I've also never noticed anyone underage being told to leave adult pools/beaches; never noticed lounge hogs being corrected; never noticed liquor/wine being confiscated; etc. But just because I haven't noticed these events, doesn't mean those events haven't occurred. It just means such events didn't involve me...or that I have a bad memory!;)

 

osiebosie - thanks for the nude shoe advice. You're absolutely right...visually extend the length of the leg...;):D

 

Happy cruising!

 

Denise

[FinelyCruising]

That is the attempt of this thread although some posters are trying to turn it into opinions. I have requested posts of the actual facts of being turned away. If we can keep the opinions/judgements out of this thread, then maybe we can assist cruisers by revealing the facts.

 

It's still another dress code thread no matter what it's wearing. ;)

[drrich2]

So that leaves us with a number of posters telling us they have seen people turned away from the dining and other venues around the ship for not wearing the attire of the evening. So what?

 

Gary already answered; I'd like to comment additionally.

 

This thread helps some of us guage what level of enforcement is going on, not just in frequency or consistency of enforcement, but on what degree of violation is necessary to trigger it.

 

For example, from this thread, it seems likely that a person in shorts & a tank-top trying to enter the dining room on formal night when the vast majority of passengers are conforming is somewhat apt to be turned away (assuming no extenuating circumstances like lost luggage).

 

If dozens of passengers or a large group did that, they may be more likely to get away with it. No guarantee, but maybe more likely.

 

But what if our non-conformist were wearing nicely pressed Chinos & a dress shirt?

 

What if he had most of a suit & tie, but not a jacket?

 

Now, before anyone starts in with a black-&-white 'that violates the dress code & it's WRONG & you might get turned away' response, recall that the real question becomes, what are the odds?

 

There's no way to know, but as people post their experiences it enables a somewhat more educated guess.

 

Richard.

[Ma Bell]

Kinda sad to think that people actually live their lives trying to gauge what they can get away with. This would definitely not be an educated guess.

[drrich2]

It's actually the common practice of our population, to some extent.

 

How many people drive 60 mph in a 55 mph zone, or 75 in a 70 mph zone, because they think the cops will let you slide if you're not over 5 mph over?

 

How many people in a 70 mph zone Interstate, if they see a lot of other people on the road going at 85 mph, will drive 80 mph figuring the much faster drivers will act as 'lightening rods' for cops?

 

Or as a friend of mine in Albuquerque, New Mexico, once pointed out about speeding in his area, comparing the # of drivers to the # of cops, he asked me 'what are the odds?'

 

Now sure, somewhere out there someone within 5 mph of the speed limit got a speeding ticket. But untold millions get away with it routinely.

 

While the rules in question & situations differ in some respects, the practice of people going through life guaging what they can likely get away with & whether the risk is worthwhile is very common.

 

Just jump over to the thread on smuggling alcoholic beverages on board Celebrity ships for another good example (& one a lot of Celebrity cruisers seem to think is okay).

 

Richard.

[GaryfmCol]

There seems to be a lot of hositility on here about the proper attire for Celebrity. Many threads that start off asking an innocent question seem to turn ugly and get closed or disappear all together. Hopefully we can keep this one open and address only the following questions:

 

Have you ever been denied entrance into the dining room for what you were wearing? If so, what was the night's dress code and what were you wearing? Please, no second hand and/or anecdotal responses.

 

Yes...ME once.

 

After dinner on a formal night, and, before the Captains toast,

in the theater (Ship: MERCURY) I went to the cabin and, got out

of my formal wear. I put on my "comfies", and, went to the casino

then, to the theater for the "toast" with DW. I was denied entrance because it was

"formal" for the Captains toast. Since I was NOT formal, I stood at the

doorway until the Captain left...THEN, I went into the theater.

Those were the rules and, I knew it, but, decided to get out of the

formal wear...so, I followed the rules...

 

The young man at the theater door was very tactful, friendly and, I agreed with him...plus, I respected him and, the ship for enforcing the rules.

:rolleyes:

END OF STORY...

[calgarygary]

Yes...ME once.

 

After dinner on a formal night, and, before the Captains toast,

in the theater (Ship: MERCURY) I went to the cabin and, got out

of my formal wear. I put on my "comfies", and, went to the casino

then, to the theater for the "toast" with DW. I was denied entrance because it was

"formal" for the Captains toast. Since I was NOT formal, I stood at the

doorway until the Captain left...THEN, I went into the theater.

Those were the rules and, I knew it, but, decided to get out of the

formal wear...so, I followed the rules...

 

The young man at the theater door was very tactful, friendly and, I agreed with him...plus, I respected him and, the ship for enforcing the rules.

:rolleyes:

END OF STORY...

 

Thanks for sharing. If I understand correctly, the theater was only formal until after the Captain left. Is that correct?

[Lois R]

Quote:

"If I understand correctly, the theater was only formal until after the Captain left. Is that correct"?

 

Hi, it might have been for that particular sailing on that particular

night for that particular event.

[excitedofharpenden]

Gary already answered; I'd like to comment additionally.

 

This thread helps some of us guage what level of enforcement is going on, not just in frequency or consistency of enforcement, but on what degree of violation is necessary to trigger it.

 

For example, from this thread, it seems likely that a person in shorts & a tank-top trying to enter the dining room on formal night when the vast majority of passengers are conforming is somewhat apt to be turned away (assuming no extenuating circumstances like lost luggage).

 

If dozens of passengers or a large group did that, they may be more likely to get away with it. No guarantee, but maybe more likely.

 

But what if our non-conformist were wearing nicely pressed Chinos & a dress shirt?

 

What if he had most of a suit & tie, but not a jacket?

 

Now, before anyone starts in with a black-&-white 'that violates the dress code & it's WRONG & you might get turned away' response, recall that the real question becomes, what are the odds?

 

There's no way to know, but as people post their experiences it enables a somewhat more educated guess.

 

Richard.

With regard to this post and your follow up, I'll stand by what I said previously. These discussions have been had on a myriad of other threads on the subject. If the purpose of this thread is to inform and educate, it does neither in my view. If it is a way to gauge whether or not you can get away with not dressing in the requested attire, then at what point do you draw conclusions? After five people have replied that they've seen people turned away? Or ten? I guess I still don't understand.

 

As for an "educated guess", there's no need to even bother with that. The following link has all the info you need:

 

http://www.celebritycruises.com/beforeyourcruise/faq/home.do;jsessionid=0000-i4MVE3j93disTqcNO2IvpA:12hdbcuh7?faqSubjectName=Dress+Code&faqId=478&pagename=faq_answers

 

Can't believe I've been drawn into a dress code thread, but when something like this is passed off as informative, well I just have to :rolleyes:

 

Phil

[Shipyard Cruiser]

With regard to this post and your follow up, I'll stand by what I said previously. These discussions have been had on a myriad of other threads on the subject. If the purpose of this thread is to inform and educate, it does neither in my view. If it is a way to gauge whether or not you can get away with not dressing in the requested attire, then at what point do you draw conclusions? After five people have replied that they've seen people turned away? Or ten? I guess I still don't understand.

 

As for an "educated guess", there's no need to even bother with that. The following link has all the info you need:

 

http://www.celebritycruises.com/beforeyourcruise/faq/home.do;jsessionid=0000-i4MVE3j93disTqcNO2IvpA:12hdbcuh7?faqSubjectName=Dress+Code&faqId=478&pagename=faq_answers

 

Can't believe I've been drawn into a dress code thread, but when something like this is passed off as informative, well I just have to :rolleyes:

 

Phil

 

I think the OP ment nothing by it. I don't think he or she was expressing an opinion about the dress code one way or another.

 

Too bad we can't talk about the dress code without all the preaching and the "I know what's right for everyone" folks.

 

We all understand and respect that the dress code is the reason why some of you cruise Celebrity.

 

Come on people it's just a vacation.

 

Not War and Peace.

[Ma Bell]

The dress code is what it is. It was written by the cruiseline and has nothing to do with what the passengers think. Either people follow it or they don't.

All the remarks about what people who sail on Celebrity think are completely uncalled for especially if one has never set foot on a Celebrity ship. It would be nice to at least complete one cruise before psychoanalyzing the passengers.

One of the reasons I continue to sail with Celebrity is that the passengers have always been such nice people.

[GaryfmCol]

Thanks for sharing. If I understand correctly, the theater was only formal until after the Captain left. Is that correct?

 

Yes.. you are 100% correct.

 

No one needs to be formal to go to the theater.

It was just a requirement for formal dress to

get the free champaign and, salute the Captains

introduction and, comments.

I like that...

 

Hell..it was that way in the USN even. :D