NorCalCruiseGuy Posted April 13, 2008 #1 Share Posted April 13, 2008 What is your onboard smoking policy? Subject: Ship and Stateroom Details Effective October 1, 2008 for all Celebrity ships, smoking will no longer be permitted inside any stateroom or on any stateroom veranda. Cigarette smoking will only be permitted in designated indoor and outdoor areas of the ship, while cigar and pipe smoking will only be permitted in designated outdoor areas. Smoking will not be permitted in any dining venue, theater, hallway, elevator or corridor. Violations to this smoking policy will result in a $250 cleaning fee being charged to the guest's onboard account and may also be addressed through Celebrity Cruises' Guest Conduct Policy. Cigarettes, cigars and pipe tobacco must be properly disposed of and never thrown overboard. A guest must be at least 18 years of age to purchase, possess or use tobacco onboard. Until October 1, 2008, the following policy still applies: Cigarette Smoking is permitted: •In staterooms•In designated areas on the port (left) side of most public areas (Lounges, Bars, Decks) Smoking is not permitted: •In the Celebrity Theater•In the Cinema•In the Conference Center•In the Dining Room•In the Elevators•On the starboard (right) side of the ship, either indoors or outdoors Pipe and Cigar Smoking: •Pipe and cigar smoking is only allowed in specifically designated areas on outer decks of the vessel•Please check with the Guest Relations Desk for these specific venues•Please note that at no time is cigar and pipe smoking permitted in staterooms/suites or on their verandas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blong2200 Posted April 13, 2008 #2 Share Posted April 13, 2008 Instead of having to search Celebrity website for FAQ concerning this policy change, don't you think Celebrity should post this on the first page of their web site in RED LETTERS, along with fuel charge supplement news, and passport news, instead of HIDING it in their FAQ. Also, if you have booked with Celebrity BEFORE this new policy, Celebrity has changed the terms of the contact they had with you at the time you paid your deposit. I have no problem with Celebrity strictly enforcing this new policy, as long as they strictly enforce the other policies mentioned under their Guest Code of Conduct: ie: NO ALCOHOL brought on board ( search the luggage of each guest to make sure this is enforced, confiscate and fine if Alcohol is found in luggage) BTW: Is champagne that is given to you in your stateroom by TA's considered alcohol? If so, that should not be allowed. NO LOUNGE CHAIR HOGS ( have pool staff strickly enforce this policy) and especially the policy of NO CHILDREN in diapers or pull ups in the pool. Just treat everyone the same and the enforcement of the new smoking policy should not be a problem. Also, strickly enforce staff and entertainers smoking in their rooms! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forensic Posted April 14, 2008 #3 Share Posted April 14, 2008 What is your on board smoking policy? Subject: Ship and Stateroom Details Effective October 1, 2008 for all Celebrity ships, smoking will no longer be permitted inside any stateroom or on any stateroom veranda. Cigarette smoking will only be permitted in designated indoor and outdoor areas of the ship, while cigar and pipe smoking will only be permitted in designated outdoor areas. Smoking will not be permitted in any dining venue, theater, hallway, elevator or corridor. Violations to this smoking policy will result in a $250 cleaning fee being charged to the guest's on board account and may also be addressed through Celebrity Cruises' Guest Conduct Policy. Cigarettes, cigars and pipe tobacco must be properly disposed of and never thrown overboard. A guest must be at least 18 years of age to purchase, possess or use tobacco on board. Until October 1, 2008, the following policy still applies: Cigarette Smoking is permitted: •In staterooms•In designated areas on the port (left) side of most public areas (Lounges, Bars, Decks) Smoking is not permitted: •In the Celebrity Theater•In the Cinema•In the Conference Center•In the Dining Room•In the Elevators•On the starboard (right) side of the ship, either indoors or outdoors Pipe and Cigar Smoking: •Pipe and cigar smoking is only allowed in specifically designated areas on outer decks of the vessel•Please check with the Guest Relations Desk for these specific venues•Please note that at no time is cigar and pipe smoking permitted in staterooms/suites or on their verandas SORRY - December 28, 2008 is NOT the Inaugural Cruise for the Celebrity Solstice. There is only ONE scheduled Inaugural Cruise, for paying customers, and that is scheduled for December 14, 2008. You may be scheduled to sail on the Solstice, Dec. 28, 2008, but it is not an Inaugural Cruise! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffeebean Posted April 14, 2008 #4 Share Posted April 14, 2008 Instead of having to search Celebrity website for FAQ concerning this policy change, don't you think Celebrity should post this on the first page of their web site in RED LETTERS, along with fuel charge supplement news, and passport news, instead of HIDING it in their FAQ. Also, if you have booked with Celebrity BEFORE this new policy, Celebrity has changed the terms of the contact they had with you at the time you paid your deposit. I have no problem with Celebrity strictly enforcing this new policy, as long as they strictly enforce the other policies mentioned under their Guest Code of Conduct: ie: NO ALCOHOL brought on board ( search the luggage of each guest to make sure this is enforced, confiscate and fine if Alcohol is found in luggage) BTW: Is champagne that is given to you in your stateroom by TA's considered alcohol? If so, that should not be allowed. NO LOUNGE CHAIR HOGS ( have pool staff strickly enforce this policy) and especially the policy of NO CHILDREN in diapers or pull ups in the pool. Just treat everyone the same and the enforcement of the new smoking policy should not be a problem. Also, strickly enforce staff and entertainers smoking in their rooms! The policy doesn't include the crew or the entertainers. The policy is for the passengers. I don't think crew members or entertainers reside next to passenger cabins where their cigarette smoke could be harmful or bother the passengers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blong2200 Posted April 14, 2008 #5 Share Posted April 14, 2008 The policy doesn't include the crew or the entertainers. The policy is for the passengers. I don't think crew members or entertainers reside next to passenger cabins where their cigarette smoke could be harmful or bother the passengers. Where in the policy does it state that this does not apply to crew and entertainers? So what you are saying is if you are in an inside cabin it is okay to smoke because you will not bother anyone? I also know that on my last Galaxy cruise one of the entertainers was booked in a suite with a balcony and I now she smoked! So this policy is not ship wide.......just for paying customers? That is even more obsurd! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCDeck Posted April 14, 2008 #6 Share Posted April 14, 2008 Instead of having to search Celebrity website for FAQ concerning this policy change, don't you think Celebrity should post this on the first page of their web site in RED LETTERS, along with fuel charge supplement news, and passport news, instead of HIDING it in their FAQ. Also, if you have booked with Celebrity BEFORE this new policy, Celebrity has changed the terms of the contact they had with you at the time you paid your deposit. I have no problem with Celebrity strictly enforcing this new policy, as long as they strictly enforce the other policies mentioned under their Guest Code of Conduct: ie: NO ALCOHOL brought on board ( search the luggage of each guest to make sure this is enforced, confiscate and fine if Alcohol is found in luggage) BTW: Is champagne that is given to you in your stateroom by TA's considered alcohol? If so, that should not be allowed. NO LOUNGE CHAIR HOGS ( have pool staff strickly enforce this policy) and especially the policy of NO CHILDREN in diapers or pull ups in the pool. Just treat everyone the same and the enforcement of the new smoking policy should not be a problem. Also, strickly enforce staff and entertainers smoking in their rooms! Hard to figure out what the Crew and entertainers have to do with anything... Heck they probably have a laundry! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruisinelsewhere Posted April 14, 2008 #7 Share Posted April 14, 2008 SORRY - December 28, 2008 is NOT the Inaugural Cruise for the Celebrity Solstice. There is only ONE scheduled Inaugural Cruise, for paying customers, and that is scheduled for December 14, 2008. You may be scheduled to sail on the Solstice, Dec. 28, 2008, but it is not an Inaugural Cruise! December 28, however, would be the Inaugural New Years Cruise as stated.....technically (though those of us on the Inaugural will know that we have already been there....done that;) ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare terrydtx Posted April 14, 2008 #8 Share Posted April 14, 2008 DANG! Just 2 weeks too late for my September 18 cruise on the Century :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gonzo70 Posted April 14, 2008 #9 Share Posted April 14, 2008 Where in the policy does it state that this does not apply to crew and entertainers? So what you are saying is if you are in an inside cabin it is okay to smoke because you will not bother anyone? I also know that on my last Galaxy cruise one of the entertainers was booked in a suite with a balcony and I now she smoked! So this policy is not ship wide.......just for paying customers? That is even more obsurd! Why would crew and passengers have the same set of rules?!? :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
excitedofharpenden Posted April 14, 2008 #10 Share Posted April 14, 2008 Where in the policy does it state that this does not apply to crew and entertainers? So what you are saying is if you are in an inside cabin it is okay to smoke because you will not bother anyone? I also know that on my last Galaxy cruise one of the entertainers was booked in a suite with a balcony and I now she smoked! So this policy is not ship wide.......just for paying customers? That is even more obsurd! I think it's safe to assume that if members of the crew or entertainers were accommodated in passenger cabins then they would be subject to the new smoking policy. I can't imagine it being any different. Phil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blong2200 Posted April 14, 2008 #11 Share Posted April 14, 2008 The policy doesn't include the crew or the entertainers. The policy is for the passengers. I don't think crew members or entertainers reside next to passenger cabins where their cigarette smoke could be harmful or bother the passengers. If you ever leave the ship most of the time you walk down the hallway where some of the staff are housed. Does the smoke from their room, bother you while you are walking by? They do not put entertainers or chaplains at the bottom of the ship with the crew, most either are accomodated in an outside stateroom or one with a balcony, depending on what their contract says. How do I know all of this.....my tablemates were the chaplains on a cruise, and I had a great conversation with an entertainer who was sitting at the pool smoking! She even smoked 'back stage'......or so she said. In saying all of this, I am making the point that you can't have rules for some and not all.......now can you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkjretired Posted April 14, 2008 #12 Share Posted April 14, 2008 If you ever leave the ship most of the time you walk down the hallway where some of the staff are housed. Does the smoke from their room, bother you while you are walking by? They do not put entertainers or chaplains at the bottom of the ship with the crew, most either are accomodated in an outside stateroom or one with a balcony, depending on what their contract says. How do I know all of this.....my tablemates were the chaplains on a cruise, and I had a great conversation with an entertainer who was sitting at the pool smoking! She even smoked 'back stage'......or so she said. In saying all of this, I am making the point that you can't have rules for some and not all.......now can you? I think you should worry about enjoying the cruise yourself instead of looking for ways to stick it others, whether it be crew or other passengers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorCalCruiseGuy Posted April 14, 2008 Author #13 Share Posted April 14, 2008 SORRY - December 28, 2008 is NOT the Inaugural Cruise for the Celebrity Solstice. There is only ONE scheduled Inaugural Cruise, for paying customers, and that is scheduled for December 14, 2008. You may be scheduled to sail on the Solstice, Dec. 28, 2008, but it is not an Inaugural Cruise! Hi, I did not mean to infer that we were on the Inaugural Cruise. What I did have in my signature is that we will be on the Innaugural NEW YEAR's Cruise, December 28 I hope no one else gets their knickers in a twist over this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blong2200 Posted April 14, 2008 #14 Share Posted April 14, 2008 I think you should worry about enjoying the cruise yourself instead of looking for ways to stick it others, whether it be crew or other passengers. I was not insinutating that anyone should 'stick it to others'........I was just wondering why some thought that the smoking policy should only apply to paying passengers and not the entertainers that they bring in for a show or two who might be staying in the cabin next to you, or the chaplains on the ship who might be staying next to you. And yes, I'm sorry, but I think if you are going to have a policy, it should apply to everyone including the crew. Some have suggested that X has done this for insurance purposes, which may be true, but if the crew is allowed to smoke in their room, that is defeating the purpose. When you go to a non smoking restaurant, they don't let the employees smoke inside do they? Maybe it is just a Southern thing, but in Georgia policies apply to ALL. You also don't have to worry about me enjoying my cruise in March of 2009. I can make the best out of any situation and I do follow the rules. I only smoke in SMOKING area's and would never dream of smoking in a non smoking area. So, if are a non smoker and you know that one side of the pool area is smoking, please don't sit down at a table and stare at me, or wave your hands in front of your face, like I am doing something wrong. If I am in the casino and sitting at a slot machine where smoking is allowed and smoking bothers you, don't come and sit in the smoking section and make comments. I would never come to your space with my habit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Host Anne Posted April 14, 2008 #15 Share Posted April 14, 2008 I'll make this short and sweet and it's the last time I'll post this note in a smoking-related thread. PLEASE abide by our Community Guidelines when posting. Failure to do so may result in the loss of posting priviledges. If you haven't visited the Guidelines recently, we urge you to do so before responding to future posts dealing with Celebrity's new smoking policy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarbGar Posted April 15, 2008 #16 Share Posted April 15, 2008 Let me preface this by saying, I am a non-smoker and never have been a smoker. I understand smoke can be uncomforable/unhealthy to many; but I believe if the smokers are more aware and considerate, this could all be worked out amicably. My husband does enjoy a cigar on vacation and we always book a verandah room as he would never smoke inside any room, at home or on vacation (except a cigar bar). I do have to say, if I had to go up or down a deck or two, travel to the other end of the ship and remain in one area to have a glass of wine, I wouldn't bother. It certainly wouldn't be very relaxing or enjoyable. Suppose there was only one dining room and no food was allowed in cabins. Again, not an enjoyable experience to sit in one (or even two) locations for every meal or snack. And as far as a cleaning surchage if found smoking on your balcony, what about a cleaning charge if food or beverages are spilled in the cabin? I believe the cleaning charges are included in the cruise fare? Like others have mentioned, perhaps certain balcony rooms could be indicated as "smoking balconies," like smoking rooms in some hotels. I agree to the rule of no smoking in any cabins (even suites), because after many smokers, the smoke does become somewhat permeated into the fabrics, rugs, etc. However, I don't understand how it would be a problem on a verandah to the next door cabin unless perhaps a party of smokers were on one balcony. I personally enjoy "formal" night, meeting the Captain. What is being done to keep that as "formal" and enforcing it? I understand others are on vacation and may not want to dress formal, but there are SEVERAL other options for them too for that evening. It was also mentioned on this "new smoking policy boards" that smoking by staff and entertainers will be allowed in the cabins, and the fact that the chair hogs policy is never in effect. I must admit it appears that the smokers are getting hit harder than the offenders of the other rules. We are presently booked on the Solstice in Febuary, 2009, so we do have time to cancel, but hope that Celebrity will find a better compromise for all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blong2200 Posted April 15, 2008 #17 Share Posted April 15, 2008 DANG! Just 2 weeks too late for my September 18 cruise on the Century :( You still have time to cancel and book a cruise ship that doesn't allow smoking at all! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blong2200 Posted April 15, 2008 #18 Share Posted April 15, 2008 Let me preface this by saying, I am a non-smoker and never have been a smoker. I understand smoke can be uncomforable/unhealthy to many; but I believe if the smokers are more aware and considerate, this could all be worked out amicably. My husband does enjoy a cigar on vacation and we always book a verandah room as he would never smoke inside any room, at home or on vacation (except a cigar bar). I do have to say, if I had to go up or down a deck or two, travel to the other end of the ship and remain in one area to have a glass of wine, I wouldn't bother. It certainly wouldn't be very relaxing or enjoyable. Suppose there was only one dining room and no food was allowed in cabins. Again, not an enjoyable experience to sit in one (or even two) locations for every meal or snack. And as far as a cleaning surchage if found smoking on your balcony, what about a cleaning charge if food or beverages are spilled in the cabin? I believe the cleaning charges are included in the cruise fare? Like others have mentioned, perhaps certain balcony rooms could be indicated as "smoking balconies," like smoking rooms in some hotels. I agree to the rule of no smoking in any cabins (even suites), because after many smokers, the smoke does become somewhat permeated into the fabrics, rugs, etc. However, I don't understand how it would be a problem on a verandah to the next door cabin unless perhaps a party of smokers were on one balcony. I personally enjoy "formal" night, meeting the Captain. What is being done to keep that as "formal" and enforcing it? I understand others are on vacation and may not want to dress formal, but there are SEVERAL other options for them too for that evening. It was also mentioned on this "new smoking policy boards" that smoking by staff and entertainers will be allowed in the cabins, and the fact that the chair hogs policy is never in effect. I must admit it appears that the smokers are getting hit harder than the offenders of the other rules. We are presently booked on the Solstice in Febuary, 2009, so we do have time to cancel, but hope that Celebrity will find a better compromise for all. Amen! And thank you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Costest Posted April 15, 2008 #19 Share Posted April 15, 2008 Where in the policy does it state that this does not apply to crew and entertainers? So what you are saying is if you are in an inside cabin it is okay to smoke because you will not bother anyone? I also know that on my last Galaxy cruise one of the entertainers was booked in a suite with a balcony and I now she smoked! So this policy is not ship wide.......just for paying customers? That is even more obsurd! I'm always in the market for a new best friend - I hope she's on my next cruise :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCDeck Posted April 15, 2008 #20 Share Posted April 15, 2008 I think the policies for the crew and contract employees would be found in the "Employees handbook" or something of that nature. I don't think they would be mentioned in the cruise docs that we receive and why should they. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usha Posted April 15, 2008 #21 Share Posted April 15, 2008 My husband does enjoy a cigar on vacation and we always book a verandah room as he would never smoke inside any room, at home or on vacation (except a cigar bar). The new policy isn't going to change anything about cigar smoking. Even with the present smoking policy, cigar smoking is prohibited in staterooms and on private balconies. The only place they're allowed is the lido deck aft, after 8:30pm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorCalCruiseGuy Posted April 15, 2008 Author #22 Share Posted April 15, 2008 The new policy isn't going to change anything about cigar smoking. Even with the present smoking policy, cigar smoking is prohibited in staterooms and on private balconies. The only place they're allowed is the lido deck aft, after 8:30pm. Thank you Usha for pointing that out. On our last cruise, we had a woman on the next veranday who insisted on smoking a cigar all day long, as well as two smokers on verandahs one deck down. We were in the aft facing verandahs, and the smoke was so bad one day, it set off the smoke detector in our stateroom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCT61 Posted April 15, 2008 #23 Share Posted April 15, 2008 SO....What about charters? Will the same rules apply to them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usha Posted April 15, 2008 #24 Share Posted April 15, 2008 I suppose you could charter one of their ships to find out...:rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PSP Posted April 15, 2008 #25 Share Posted April 15, 2008 I agree wholeheartedly. I am a smoker and book a balconey specifically so I can enjoy a cigarette outside. I never smoke in my cabin. I booked a cruise on the Millenium over a year ago from Auckland to Sydney 11/23/08 and I am going to cancel and unfortunately will never book again with Celebrity with their new smoking policy. It is unfortunate as Celebrity is my premier line and first choice in cruising for many reasons. I have a cabin booked on another line as I did not want to risk being taken off the ship for not abiding by the rules. I did take the opportunity to email Dan Hanrahan, however I'm sure that there will be no changes. Valerie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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