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I have heard on the newer ships (Ruby, Eurodam) you only use your room card when play8ing slots? You also have to recieve and remember a code? No paper cash out system. You have to go to the cage and get any winnings paid out from your card. Can someone please explain, I hope this is not true as this sounds like a real pain.

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I have heard on the newer ships (Ruby, Eurodam) you only use your room card when play8ing slots? You also have to recieve and remember a code? No paper cash out system. You have to go to the cage and get any winnings paid out from your card. Can someone please explain, I hope this is not true as this sounds like a real pain.

 

This isn't just on the Ruby (Eurodam is not a Princess ship so I have no idea about HAL ships). As far as I know, all of the larger ships in the fleet have this method now, even the Dawn Princess slots were set up this way. If you need assistance when you first board, just ask one of the casino hosts and they will assist you to set up your account right from the slot machine. It takes putting a few numbers into the slot machine, and then using your own PIN after that to access your bank or add to it from your winnings. So, you can use whatever PIN you wish, the last four # of your SS number, your birthdate, whatever is easy to remember.

 

Very simple method after you try it, and makes it so easy to add to or cash out your winnings. I have to admit, this sure beats waiting for a casino worker to come and fill out a ticket and have it authorized so you can carry it to the casino cage to cash in. As for other type paper tickets? I have never seen slots on princess give out paper tickets in the past.

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Thanks, I am aware the Eurodam is HAL, I mentioned it as it is a new ship like the Ruby under the Carnival umbrella. Until now on other lines you either get coins that fall out of the machine on cash out, or you get a paper cash out ticket you use just as you would cash. The ticket is nice because you dont handle money, you can cash it in at the cage but you dont have to go to the cage you can put it into a machine which will disburse your winnings or actually put it into another machine and keep playing. I do not like the idea of casino money being associated with my room pass card. What if you forget to cash out on the last night of the cruise, what happens to your money? This just seems like a lot more interaction with casino personel.

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Thanks, I am aware the Eurodam is HAL, I mentioned it as it is a new ship like the Ruby under the Carnival umbrella. Until now on other lines you either get coins that fall out of the machine on cash out, or you get a paper cash out ticket you use just as you would cash. The ticket is nice because you dont handle money, you can cash it in at the cage but you dont have to go to the cage you can put it into a machine which will disburse your winnings or actually put it into another machine and keep playing. I do not like the idea of casino money being associated with my room pass card. What if you forget to cash out on the last night of the cruise, what happens to your money? This just seems like a lot more interaction with casino personel.

 

Your casino bank, although on your cruise card, is a seperate account from your shipboard account.

As for cashing out, yes, if you don't cash out the final night onboard, they will be calling your room to remind you. But, you can cash out anytime you wish, it doesn't have to be the last night onboard.

How did you handle the paper slips? Didn't they have to be cashed out also before the last night? I am a bit confused on the logic here. ;)

 

I personally love this, it is so easy and so simple. I hate waiting around for a machine to pay out, run out of coins, or a staff member to find a casino mgr to initial the pay out form. As far back as two-three years ago princess was using this method on most of the ships.

Sorry you don't like this method, but it is about all you are going to find on Princess anymore. Maybe the older HAL ships haven't gone this route yet and you might check and see. ;)

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Are all slots set up this way? Wonder how this works for someone who doesn't gamble much, few dollars an evening? Sounds like not worth the effort to play. May save my few dollars for something else if all slots are like this. :rolleyes:

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Just off the Star last week, and love this method of payouts. Be careful, because you can "front" youself money off your sail card (which goes on your credit card). My rule is, just add cash to your gambling account (put cash in the machine and they you can upload it to the card) and not "borrow" money you don't have. This must sound clear as mud. Can anyone explain better what I am trying to say?

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I have heard on the newer ships (Ruby, Eurodam) you only use your room card when play8ing slots?

 

Key word here is "only."

 

On the Crown recently (and to my knowledge on the other ships) this is optional. You can still insert cash or tokens and receive tokens at the slots. The tokens can be changed for cash at the casino cashier's cage.

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I found this statement on the Princess site which to me, means they don't take cash at the casino. I'm cruising on the Crown in Feb. without a credit card and would like to know if my cash will be accepted :confused:! There is also another area on their Website that states they do take cash and traveller's checks?!?!?!

 

Casino

 

Charges for obtaining chips and tokens in the casino are limited to $1,500 USD per day, up to a total limit of $5,000 USD per cruise and are only available if you have pre-registered a credit card with the Passenger Service/Purser's Desk for Express Check-Out. For inquiries, players should call 1-800-5CASINO (1-800-522-7466) or go to www.oceanplayersclub.com. Please note: There is a 3% processing fee applied to all casino room charges and cash advances. These advances are billed directly to your shipboard account.

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you have 2 options (just off the CB and it was the same on the Crown last year)

 

1. put cash in. Takes all US bills. When finished hit the cash out button and you will be rewarded with coins/tokens which you will have to take to the cage if you want bills back

 

2. Set up a casino card with your room key. You insert the key and the buttons prompt you to set up a pin. From that point on, you put your cash into the machine, play, and when you are done (if you have anything left that is), you hit the button that says 'upload", enter your pin, and the machine puts the balance on the machine onto your card. You take your card to another machine, press the download button, enter your PIN and then choose how much money you want to be put onto the machine you're playing. When you're done (if you have any money left that is) you simply bring your card to the cage and they give you cash.

 

you also have the option of taking money from your shipboard account and "depositing" it into the machine. This is charged to your credit card (no cash advance fees or ship fees).

 

It's really painless and sure beats handling coins (especially since our ship had the noro virus thing). Hope that helps

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you also have the option of taking money from your shipboard account and "depositing" it into the machine. This is charged to your credit card (no cash advance fees or ship fees).

 

It's really painless and sure beats handling coins (especially since our ship had the noro virus thing). Hope that helps

 

It seems that this method will also effectively allow you to charge a cash advance to your shipboard account and settle by credit card with no fee, ie take money from your shipboard account, deposit in machine, upload to card and cash out at cage. Or am I being really dumb and missing something ?:confused:

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Your casino bank, although on your cruise card, is a seperate account from your shipboard account.

As for cashing out, yes, if you don't cash out the final night onboard, they will be calling your room to remind you. But, you can cash out anytime you wish, it doesn't have to be the last night onboard.

How did you handle the paper slips? Didn't they have to be cashed out also before the last night? I am a bit confused on the logic here. ;)

 

I personally love this, it is so easy and so simple. I hate waiting around for a machine to pay out, run out of coins, or a staff member to find a casino mgr to initial the pay out form. As far back as two-three years ago princess was using this method on most of the ships.

Sorry you don't like this method, but it is about all you are going to find on Princess anymore. Maybe the older HAL ships haven't gone this route yet and you might check and see. ;)

 

The logic is- a paper printout can be taken to a bill machine and give you your money-no casino interaction. If you forgot to cash in before you went home, the paper is still good for a future sailing. Plus no codes to remember. It took me a while to get used to no coins on payout because I liked the thrill of the winning sounds, as for the paper, I did get used to it because the coins were dirty and I can walk to a bill machine to get my cash versus waiting in line. What is next??? You just turn on your tv and it plays automatically while you take a nap?The bottom line is this is a new sneaky method to try to suck more money out of some poor sap who might not be in the right frame of mind.

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"Me thinks you protest too much!" Try it ... like many others I wouldn't be surprised if, in the end, you might just like it!

 

Maybe so but several of my family just came back from a sailing and they did not like it one bit. The code was a hassle and they never knew how much money was in their "bank". In theory I am not protesting anything, I am asking for clarification on what I was told. I will say what I have read to this point is not making me feel any better. The only positive I am may be hearing is that you have a system in place to avoid the 3% cash advance.

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Are all slots set up this way? Wonder how this works for someone who doesn't gamble much, few dollars an evening? Sounds like not worth the effort to play. May save my few dollars for something else if all slots are like this. :rolleyes:

I think this has two advantages for the house. First they are not handling a lot of coins and bills.... and folks gambling are not aware of their "stack" going down. When you are pulling the last few coins out of your bucket :eek: you know where you stand immediately. :D

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As I recall ... and I could be wrong ... I believe that you see your balance on the screen on the machine every time you plug the card in. Then, you transfer as many credits as you desire into the machine. When you're finished playing, if you're fortunate enough to have winnings (or at least some credits remaining in the machine), you simply hit the button that transfer them back.

 

I too, thought it was going to be a pain ... but it turned out to be rather convenient if you play more than just once or twice.

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It seems that this method will also effectively allow you to charge a cash advance to your shipboard account and settle by credit card with no fee, ie take money from your shipboard account, deposit in machine, upload to card and cash out at cage. Or am I being really dumb and missing something ?:confused:

 

 

no you are absolutely correct! No fees, no cash advance charge from your credit card! Neat little secret!

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I have never observed the paper ticket system on a cruise ship. We do have that system here in the CT casinos and in all the casinos in Vegas use them. They are convenient I admit. That being said, there is no problem with the card system on the cruise ship. If you are lucky enough to have money left on the last night, you get a notice in your cabin and they repeatedly page overhead not to forget to cash out. There is no hassle here and it's much to do about nothing really. Every time you put your PIN in, you will find a balance of what you have left. By the way, the paper tickets expire in 90 days in almost every casino I've been in, so chances are that you would not be able to take the ticket to the next cruise; the computers wipe out after each one. You also have the option of doing the old fashioned thing and feed the little bugger the coins and take coins back.

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As I recall ... and I could be wrong ... I believe that you see your balance on the screen on the machine every time you plug the card in. Then, you transfer as many credits as you desire into the machine. When you're finished playing, if you're fortunate enough to have winnings (or at least some credits remaining in the machine), you simply hit the button that transfer them back.

 

I too, thought it was going to be a pain ... but it turned out to be rather convenient if you play more than just once or twice.

 

You are correct. You can see you balance on the screen after you put your card in. Otherwise how would you know how much $$ you have in your casino account?? It's very simple and painless:)

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Maybe so but several of my family just came back from a sailing and they did not like it one bit. The code was a hassle and they never knew how much money was in their "bank". In theory I am not protesting anything, I am asking for clarification on what I was told. I will say what I have read to this point is not making me feel any better. The only positive I am may be hearing is that you have a system in place to avoid the 3% cash advance.

 

Oh My, now this is something I have not heard of before. Your balance is right there on the read out screen each time you insert your cruise card. How they could have missed it is beyond me:confused::confused:

It shows up each time so you know EXACTLY how much is in your bank at any machine you insert your card to. Maybe a little eyeglass cleaner in their Christmas stocking this year? LOL

Since it seems you haven't tried this yet, I am going to hold off discussing this any further until you do. You are making a huge deal out of something you haven't even experienced. I am sure you will find this entire process a lot simplier than you realize.

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For slots, you can choose to input credits by cash ,or tokens, or cruise card bank. You can choose to take your winnings by cashing out in tokens, or applying the credits to your cruise card bank. There's no paper anywhere. You can take tokens to the cashiers cage and exchange for dollars. If you have money in your cruise card bank, when you're all done, you go to the cashiers cage and get your cash. If you forget to cash out by the closing of the casino on the last night, any money in your bank is gone forever. For every $3 you play, you get 1 point on your players card. When you reach 1000 points you get $10 in cash, either cash or credits in your bank. The total number of points is shown on the screen when you input your card. to see how much money you have in your bank, you enter your pre set up PIN and select BANK. It's all very easy and the casino staff will help anyone who needs it.

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We hope they continue giving an option for either putting coins in the slots or the paper trail. The paper trail is of course more convenient, but from the casino side it allows you to play much faster, thus more profit. Also they will know who wins, loses, how much and how long you play. I suspect they may, in the future, research the gamblers and offer them cruise incentives. Not to say this is bad.

 

We have a handicapped daughter (age 37) we take on cruises and she loves to play slots but only if she can put in the coins and cash out after every win. We use to go to Atlantic City for the beach as well as slots and she loved it. When they changed over to no more putting in the coins she had no more interest in playing thus no more Atlantic City. We hope she does not lose interest in cruising.

 

Change is not always good for everyone.

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If you forget to cash out by the closing of the casino on the last night, any money in your bank is gone forever.

 

Just to clarify, if you forget to cash in, you do receive a letter or phone call in your room the night before leaving the ship to remind you to cash in. I know it happened to me on our May CB cruise!!

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