RudiRatlos

Exactly. Light grey - like here - indicates stell hull balconies on MSC´s deck plans (dark grey indicates obstructed view).

European menus and bar list have been posted recently by @taylordg https://boards.cruisecritic.com/topic/2962623-world-europa-menu-examples-by-not-yc/#elControls_66354387_menu

Maybe I should also go back to school... to improve my spelling...

Scholl holidays (autumn) are now over in all parts of germany.

This is because MSC Poesia is based in Warnemuende for summer 2024, so the main embarkation port for the baltic cruises is Warnemuende: there is an 11-day baltic cruise from Warnemunede beginning May, 15th and, following that cruise, a 7-day baltic cruise beginning May 26th. As usual in europe, MSC also sells cruises with embarkation at other than home ports, so the cruise you are looking at basically consists of parts of two other itineraries (with both of them containing Ronne).

There is a region-code on one page of the menus: in the menus you posted it is "MED NOR" - I think it´s safe to assume this indicaties Mediterranean and Northern Europe, so menus for cruises from America may be slightly different. From what I see here, menus are not too different (haven´t been on sailings outside Europe so far). There are bigger differences in bar lists, not only in prices - € vs. $ - also different beverage selection. I saw a breakfast menu with code "FLEET" - this should be fleet-wide.

Balconies with metal balustrade are marked light grey in the current deck plans. The dark grey we see here indicates balconies with side view or shadow.

You can clearly see the larger overhang in this picture:

Happy wife, happy life...

Worked perfectly this week on Fantasia - got newspaper, pillows and bottle of wine as requested. Of course, in order to avoid the impression of MSC having a fully functional IT department, the e-mail asking for preferences was not sent to me (who booked and paid the cruise), but to my wife...

No. You can pre-book and pay, but reservations can only be made on board.

The app is fully functional only with the newer ships (Meraviglia was first). https://www.msccruises.co.uk/on-board/internet-apps/msc-for-me *Available for guests travelling on MSC Seascape, MSC World Europa, MSC Seashore, MSC Virtuosa, MSC Bellissima, MSC Grandiosa, MSC Meraviglia, MSC Seaside, MSC Seaview. The MSC for Me programme is also available on MSC Splendida and on MSC Magnifica, however it has reduced programme features. Coming soon on MSC Euribia. The MSC for Me app functionality may vary from ship to ship and across different countries.

1. There is no Keito restaurant on Divina, but Galaxy: also a sushi place. You may find a menu (which is different from Keito) using the forum´s search function for "Galaxy restaurant" (there is another Galaxy restaurant on MSC Preziosa). 2. Le Muse is the YC restaurant, Black Crab and Villa Rossa are the MDRs. You will be assigned to one of these. 3. No 4. Never heard of this.

Obviously it is not MSC´s best idea to do bar list and drink package changes over a period of time rather than from a fixed date... Nevertheless, exclusions for specialty restaurants and signature venues remain unchanged - third-party managed signature venues (like Venchi or Jean Philippe) are excluded from all packages, MSC´s specialty restaurants (like Butchers Cut) included in Easy Plus and Premium extra). However, "Coffee Emporium" is not mentioned in the drink packages T&C, so we don´t know for sure wether it is considered a normal bar or a signature venue. After all, MSC cannot deny its italian origins... "Heaven is where the police are British, the lovers French, the mechanics German, the chefs Italian, and it is all organized by the Swiss. Hell is where the police are German, the lovers Swiss, the mechanics French, the chefs British, and it is all organized by the Italians."

Drink package descriptions for summer 2023 do not exclude coffee in general (just posted them in another thread), but "Lavazza Coffee Shops" - is Coffee Emporium a "Lavazza Coffee Shop"?

It the other group/family members booked Easy Plus or Premium Extra, then the Minor´s package can be used in specialty restaurants.

Descriptions of the summer 2023 drink packages are given on other MSC websites, too, for example on msccruisesusa.com Please note that All-Inclusive Beverage packages for Summer 2023 up to Summer 2024 cruises are detailed here below. To know the details of Beverage packages for Winter 2022/23 cruises, please login to your personal area. EASY PACKAGE Book now online your drink package at the lowest price compared to the onboard price! Including: • Selected classic or international cocktails • Non-alcoholic cocktails and mixed drinks • Spirits (whisky, vodka, gin, rum, tequila, brandy - one brand per type) • House wines (red, white, sparkling, rosè) • Draft beer Heineken and bottled beer Heineken* • Soft drinks from the fountain, canned soft drinks, fruit juices by the glass and bottled • Bottled Mineral Water • Classic hot drinks (espresso, cappuccino, caffèlatte, hot tea, hot chocolate) • Beverage gratuities included *The brand of beer may vary overtime. The Easy Package covers all the above served in our bars, buffet and main restaurant. What’s more, it also includes private islands, but does not cover the specialty restaurants and signature venues. EASY PLUS Package Book now online your drink package at the lowest price compared to the onboard price! Includes all beverages priced up to €9 / $10!* Variety of frozen and classic cocktails Fresh fruit cocktails and protein shakes Well spirits, liqueurs and cordials Variety of draught and bottled beers Non-alcoholic cocktails and all non alcoholic drinks Bottled Mineral Water Wide range of hot drinks 10% discount on bottles of wine purchased on board Selection of wines by the glass Beverage gratuities included *The Easy Plus Package covers all the above served at our bars, buffet, main restaurant and specialty restaurants. What’s more, it also includes private islands, but does not cover the signature venues. PREMIUM EXTRA PACKAGE Book now online your drink package at the lowest price compared to the onboard price! Includes all beverages priced up to €14 / $16!* Wide Selection of Premium and International cocktails Non-alcoholic cocktails and all non-alcoholic drinks Fresh fruit and protein cocktails Premium brand spirits, liqueurs and cordials Wide selection of fine wine by glass Champagne by glass Wide variety of draft and bottled beer Bottled Mineral Water Wide selection of classic and specialty hot drinks 25% discount on purchased of bottled wine and champagne Beverage gratuities included *The Premium Extra Package can be enjoyed in our bars, buffet, main restaurant and specialty restaurants as well as on private islands, but does not cover our signature venues. ALCOHOL-FREE PACKAGE Book now online your drink package at the lowest price compared to the onboard price*! Including: Non-alcoholic cocktails Fresh fruit and protein cocktails Energy drinks Sodas Energy drinks Flavored water Soda by glass and bottle Wide range of hot drinks Soft serve ice cream Beverage gratuities included *The Alcoholic Free Package can be used in our bars, self-service buffet, main restaurant and on private islands, but not in the specialty restaurants and signature venues. MINORS PACKAGE Book now online your drink package at the lowest price compared to the onboard price*! Including: Non-alcoholic cocktails Fresh fruit and protein cocktails Energy drinks Flavored water Soda by glass and bottle Wide range of hot drinks Soft serve ice cream Beverage gratuities included *The Minors Package can be used in our bars, self-service buffet, main restaurant and on private islands, but not in the specialty restaurants and signature venues. Terms & Conditions Beverage packages are not transferrable and may not be shared with other guests. Valid for one beverage only per order. Violation of these terms may result in cancellation of a guest's package without eligibility for a refund or credit of any kind. Availability of Drink packages and prices may vary per sailing. Packages are sold on a per cruise basis and not a per day or any other basis. Pricing applies to each day of the cruise, except for disembarkation day. Once activated on board, packages cannot be terminated or refunded. Packages must be booked by all guests occupying the same cabin, and who are traveling together and wishing to dine at the same table. This includes minors, for whom the Minors Package must be booked. Packages are not obligatory for infants under three years of age. The following exclusions apply; tobacco, souvenir glasses, ice cream menu, retail items, minibar, room service, promotions, and signature venues, including Venchi 1878 establishments, Lavazza Coffee Shops, Jean Philippe Chocolate, Coffee, Crepes & Gelato, regardless of beverage price. Must be of legal age to consume alcohol. See the terms of our Guest Alcohol Policy for more information. Beverages and liquors may be substituted based on availability and itinerary. Other conditions & terms may apply. Which packages can be used in Specialty Restaurants? All packages can be used in Buffet Restaurants, main Restaurants and Bars. But only the following ones can also be used in the Specialty Restaurants: • Easy Plus Package • Premium Extra Package Minors package can be consumed in specialty restaurants too if the minor’s family/group purchased the Easy Plus or Premium Extra packages.

MSC published an overview of starting dates for the new drink packages at their german website msccruises.de - this may help to clarify some questions. The new "summer 2023" drink packages with higher price limits should be applied from the following dates (day/month/year). Until this dates, there may be some confusion here and there, which of course is not uncommon to the experienced MSC cruiser. @JamieLogical posted a bar list from MSC Meraviglia some hours ago (link), so this should be the new summer 2023 bar list for the carribean (with the pleasant innovation of paying just the difference for a drink over the price limit of one´s drink package - I would expect this to be the case also on other ships from the given dates on). All Inclusive Getränkepakete für den Sommer 2023 bis zum Sommer 2024 Die Tabelle unten zeigt das Startdatum im Sommer 2023 für jedes Schiff. Shiff 1. Kreuzfahrt - Sommer 2023 MSC Armonia 01/04/2023 MSC Sinfonia 09/04/2023 MSC Meraviglia 09/04/2023 MSC Seashore 11/04/2023 MSC World Europa 12/04/2023 MSC Grandiosa 16/04/2023 MSC Fantasia 16/04/2023 MSC Seaside 19/04/2023 MSC Seaview 17/04/2023 MSC Lirica 18/04/2023 MSC Musica 23/04/2023 MSC Virtuosa 21/04/2023 MSC Bellissima 29/04/2023 MSC Splendida 30/04/2023 MSC Seascape 30/04/2023 MSC Magnifica 01/05/2023 MSC Poesia 03/05/2023 MSC Opera 07/05/2023 MSC Preziosa 07/05/2023 MSC Orchestra 15/05/2023 MSC Divina 03/06/2023 MSC Euribia 10/06/2023

My experience (mediterranean and baltics with MSC) is that excursions do not show up at once - some will show up quite early, others may follow later (up to a few weeks before cruise).

There has been no stretching of any Fantasia class ship. There isn't much more to find about it other than the cc article from 2019, so we really don't know if this was about a Fantasia class ship at all - furthermore MSC may have changed their plans more than once since then...

Thanks for the hint! Covid for sure has thwarted all plans, though actually "El Sombrero" Tex-Mex was transformed to Butcher's Cut. Should be this article about a rather vague announcement (for me it would be very surprising if MSC plans on stretching a fantasia-class ship, as these are still amongst the longest cruise ships on sea): MSC Cruises will likely stretch and "massively enhance" one of its existing ships ahead of a 2021 deployment in the UK. While the line would not reveal the name of the ship, it is likely to be the one currently serving the UK market, MSC Preziosa (...) "So we will have 14-nighters, 12-nighters, 10-nighters, seven-nighters catering for different types of customers." The ship will not be a new vessel, but will be "subject to a 'massive enhancement' which could potentially include a stretching," he added. It could include a number of the new features introduced on Meraviglia- and Seaside-class ships such as restaurants, as well as new-to-the-fleet features, Mr Paradiso said.

It was a baltic cruise (Preziosa did Norway and baltics every other week last summer). Nothing out of stock in YC or elsewhere on the ship. We did not join any afternoon tea, therefore I cannot answer that question.

There were reserved YC-only seats in Preziosa's theatre in June 2022 (maybe it depends on the number of pax -summer 2022 sailings were not at capacity, but probably more pax than 2021). Since this was our first cruise in YC, I cannot compare to pre-covid. Are you sure about this? Never heard of it, or of any plan to "stretch" a Fantasia-class ship (of which Preziosa is the newest, built 2013). Lirica-class ships have been lengthened some years before.

Miniatur-Wunderland is a 20-30 minutes walk from there.

In the meantime, since this thread started some years ago (last posting was nearly 6 years ago), MSC changed their deck plans to include this information: steel balconies are shown in light gray on current deck plans.