Why does an Infinite Veranda thread bring out such strong(er) opinions from normally pleasant posters here? As others have said, we Celebrity cruisers just all need to live with E-Class ships or be happy with M&S ships, or really just move on. Many many people like E-class apparently as judged by the full ships. I usually do not even look at IV threads anymore as for me there will never be an answer, an argument, or a winner. They just go on and on. And come back over and over. I'm not even sure why I am commenting here in this thread. Please feel free to tell me to move on too!