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I think I seem to remember a ship with an inside windowless cabin but with some sort of video screen and a changeable virtual view. Anybody else remember this?

Agree. I'll never understand why a cruise line and a luxury vacation should be "egalitarian" in the minds of some. Why? It is not a government or an "ism". It is a buyer's vacation choice with their own money and nothing more. People do not need to cruise if they are put off by that.

So choosing to cruise on a true premium or luxury line - isn't that also a segmented decision?

QM2 is on my bucket list of future cruises.

@talljules1 we will be on Indy next year in a 2 BR GS and are also D+. We are going for the very nice 12 night Canary Islands itinerary - and I was a bit surprised about the WiFi not included and also of course no suite restaurant (CK). Especially after recently sailing Oasis class (Symphony) this year. IMO WiFi should be included as others have repeatedly said and it is a mystery why it is not. INDY has only 3 restaurants - so we decided not to book the UDP for over $500 each since it would not add much variety. Here is what we are doing overall: Drinks - no drink package. Using our 5 vouchers each plus the suite lounge. Plenty for us. Also buying a drink now and then if we need to is no big deal. Dining - we pre-booked the 5 night dining package at a discount and will also use our D+ BOGO's. A few nights in the MDR or Windjammer is OK, or eating on shore locally. Also we can have breakfast in Chops. Or room service. WiFi- we pre-booked the streaming package in advance. Not a bad price (but it should be included honestly)!

ya cruise this time of year ya deal with hurricanes.

I find it funny (sorry!) that these boards have you worried that Celebrity has more of a separate class system than Cunard and QM2. Don't worry- it doesn't!

They should rope off and reserve seats at the Martini Bar for me before dinner. I like it better than the Retreat Lounge. That will get everybody going! haha.🤪 I would also enjoy a roped off toilet stall that is kept clean for me.

If you are in a suite, I think on Chic night your butler will escort you to these roped off balcony seats. At least they used too. We found that a bit too pretentious for us and also did not particularly like the seats. So we never really did this after the first time. We can always get to the theatre and find seats to our liking. Maybe that's contributing to the problem- people like us are taking the better non-reserved seats early! LOL this thread is off the rails.

In this thread, you sound more than a bit bitter (riff-raff?) about your last Celebrity experience. But all of your observations have been discussed here repeatedly for years. Theatre seating, no front of ship viewing, etc. Were you expecting different (if you follow these boards)? Maybe another cruise line is in the cards?

Edge class ships were designed with different areas, different access and a whole list of paid-for benefits, and you could pay extra for them if you wish to. Other ships have followed on Celebrity and frankly everywhere in cruising these days. If it were a class system some passengers would be excluded to make these choices. But they are not. Anybody can use their vacation dollars any way they choose and customize their vacation.

We enjoyed Symphony earlier this year. Looking forward to your live reporting!

Your choice but they will give you a gallon of distilled if you simply ask for it once on board.

Check out Larry's Limos - they are the best in S. Florida and not too expensive. They have a wide variety of vehicle choices. We always use them in MIA and FLL.

On this cruise, do enjoy the food off the ship. It is usually wonderful. And the gelato!

You can also get an inexpensive massage at the beach.

-------or order room service

You are correcting a misconception - that most think that E-Class is much larger than S-Class - and it is only slightly larger in size but with more passengers and more suites. On a TA, in a suite, I would go with E-Class for the full Retreat experience on all those Sea Days. Non-suite, go with S-Class and get a real balcony.

We did a full transit a couple of years ago on a smaller ship (Infinity) that used the old locks. It was the true engineering Geek experience!

We will be on Indy in a GS. How was the suite experience overall? So far we pre-purchased the WiFi package and the 5-night dining package for a 12 night cruise. We would prefer Oasis or Quantum Class where this is included but we like the itinerary.

We will soon evaluate the full suite experience on an older ship (INDY) without CK. Honestly we wish it was there. INDY has 3 specialty restaurants only. It is a 12 night cruise. The UDP even with pre-cruise discount is very pricey. We are going with the 5 night package plus the MDR/Windjammer.

@zitsky your thread from 18 months ago has some legs! You must be an influencer!😁

Yes matches the prices.

Well 91 cruises mostly with Royal. You must be super Pinnacles. So you have seen and experienced everything. This was the first time you had bad fish? Or skimpy lobster?

This is one of those situations where a phone call to Royal is better than any of us here speculating about this specific situation.