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we have only run into a small handful of rude passengers. We sat with two couples, obviously vacationing together at breakfast. They were rude to the female waiter and kept correcting her English. We told her in front of them that we appreciated her English because we wished we were able to learn a second language and thought she was doing a great job. They were very quiet afterwards and we told the manager on the way out what a great job she did and how much we appreciated her lovely attitude when the guests were being so rude to her. There was a large family group with a woman who looked exactly like the old lady aunt on Family Vacation who somehow ended up on every tour we took. She stared at us the whole time with a nasty look. Later in the week, she ran over my foot with her walker as she stormed the path into the MDR without so much as looking back to see if I was crippled from her drive-by. We saw some teens/pre-teens running wild in the Promenade one night and knocking stuff over. We assumed they had no parents present, but then saw them come to a table next to us in the Promenade Cafe and the Dad actually congratulated one of the little creeps on knocking down so much stuff. You will find these types at any big resort, but there is certainly a small group of them and they are few and far between.
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I am not sure you have to be cruising to be snobbish. I love this board and love to read it, however some of the poster are very rude and snobbish. My first post was about an incident that happened on the Navigator in March. I was blasted accused of lying, plagiarism and many more because someone else had posted a post about the same incident on a different ship. I was using my Iphone and had just return to Miami and hadn't seen the other post. I was hurt, offended and furious about be called come of the names I was called. Maybe someone should start a thread called [B]"Snobbish Poster's"[/B]. I just love when someone post that something is free on the ship, in no time at all someone is posting that it isn't free, it is included in the price of your cruise. That is what I consider Snobs. Just my two cents worth again to be blasted.......Happy Cruising......
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[quote name='Breck1969']I am not sure you have to be cruising to be snobbish. I love this board and love to read it, however some of the poster are very rude and snobbish. My first post was about an incident that happened on the Navigator in March. I was blasted accused of lying, plagiarism and many more because someone else had posted a post about the same incident on a different ship. I was using my Iphone and had just return to Miami and hadn't seen the other post. I was hurt, offended and furious about be called come of the names I was called. Maybe someone should start a thread called [B]"Snobbish Poster's"[/B]. I just love when someone post that something is free on the ship, in no time at all someone is posting that it isn't free, it is included in the price of your cruise. That is what I consider Snobs. Just my two cents worth again to be blasted.......Happy Cruising......[/quote]

A thread just got deleted this morning due to personal attack mode and just plain and simple fighting and yes-Snobbery.
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Of all our cruises, I only remember one rude person. He was the younger companion of one of the female speakers on Mariner and caused so many incidents that there was eventually a thread here on CC trying to get more info on him.
It was so unusual it became funny, though I understand those involved in direct encounters with him were not laughing.
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[quote name='The_Baron']When the wife and I were on our 1st cruise last month, we found that generally, most passengers were very friendly toward us, but, there were a few occassions when we were felt to feel 'lower class', for example, eating in the windjammer on Indy one night, we both decided to have something a burger.

On a table nearby, there were a group of people, tutting, and muttering under their breath about "these young people always eating junk food!" (we're both in our 30's, and this was the only time, apart from JR's we ate burgers!)

Another time, my wife was told to "Shut up, girl!" by a woman reading, when she was talking to someone else by the pool. Others were complaining about the amount of 'young people and families'. It seemed to me that some of these people felt that cruising was the reserve of the upper classes, and the more 'senior' folk. I even said to one that if they felt that way, don't book a cruise on a ship like Indy, which is a family-ship.

do others experience this? Or is it a rare thing?[/quote]

I've never had this problem nor would I let it bother me if I did. Similar things like this happen everyday in real life. There are idiots on the roads, restaurants, airports and stores on land. It is best to just ignore something like this.
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Enjoying reading some of teh stories etc on this thread, we have been cruising for many years, both in our 30's with three kids, two teens and one little girl, we have found that we have been frowned upon by a 'few' cruisers, but in the main we have got on with everyone we have met, striked up good conversations etc and even when we went on a P&O out of season on a cruise which is always an 'older' generation type cruise us and our kids were welcomed with open arms by pretty much all the guests onboard, the older people nearly always had something nice to say about the kids, and if they the kids enjoying themselves, but showing respect for 'all' passengers and not running around corridors, lifts etc then it makes a great holiday, however, there are without fail some very odd people on these ships, we have all heard teh stories, but tough luck in my view they are the ones with the problems, not us, we are just an average family who happen to enjoy cruising as opposed to a traditional land based holiday, if other guests onboard a ship cant accept that then tough luck, as long as all of you respect other guests then you deserve respect back, if people are rude to you for no reason then they are the ones with the problem, and so what everyone enjoys burgers sometimes, we very often go to the casual dining venue in the evenings and enjoy some burgers, hot dogs, chips etc occasionally it makes a nice change on a cruise from all the lovely food in the MDR :-)
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I used to want into a cruise line's loyalty program, thinking you must get free upgrades or something. I recently read what the perks are and thought "no thanks." I have no interest in exclusive cocktail parties and all that. I'm sure there are many nice people involved but it sounds too much like a snob magnet to me.
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[quote name='Mary09']I used to want into a cruise line's loyalty program, thinking you must get free upgrades or something. I recently read what the perks are and thought "no thanks." I have no interest in exclusive cocktail parties and all that. I'm sure there are many nice people involved but it sounds too much like a snob magnet to me.[/quote]

Honestly I've never found them to be snobby at all. I think the main reason they're popular is the free booze. ;):D
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[quote name='griffy116']we have only run into a small handful of rude passengers. We sat with two couples, obviously vacationing together at breakfast. They were rude to the female waiter and kept correcting her English. We told her in front of them that we appreciated her English because we wished we were able to learn a second language and thought she was doing a great job. They were very quiet afterwards and we told the manager on the way out what a great job she did and how much we appreciated her lovely attitude when the guests were being so rude to her. There was a large family group with a woman who looked exactly like the old lady aunt on Family Vacation who somehow ended up on every tour we took. She stared at us the whole time with a nasty look. Later in the week, she ran over my foot with her walker as she stormed the path into the MDR without so much as looking back to see if I was crippled from her drive-by. .[/quote]

You are my kind of person. You have me starting to think about posting some funny, and some not funny encounters during our cruises(INCLUDING BEING ORDERED TO CARRY ANOTHER PERSONS BAGS TO THEIR ROOM):eek:
Hell I was a cruiser too:eek:
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[quote name='Don Pedro']

He was an older man, about my age and it seems like we oldster have taken a pretty good rap on this thread for being rude.
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Valid point, but I've believed since I was about 20 (More than a couple of decades ago) , don't be abusive to people who are bringing your food.
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[quote name='debde']a thread just got deleted this morning due to personal attack mode and just plain and simple fighting and yes-snobbery.
Yes-they do exsist.
My advice-suit up-:p[/quote]


love your avatar...who dat! ;)
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I spend most of my time talking to the crew on the ships rather than other passengers, not that I haven't met some other FANTASTIC passengers as well. I just find the crew to have more interesting stories about where they come from, how they ended up on the ship etc.

When I was in my early 20's I was on a ship and spent most evenings talking to a couple of bartenders in the lobby bar area, and one night a few drunken boys were trying to "rescue me" from "having to talk to those people". I just smiled and said "I've got enough drunken fratboys at home, I came here to get away from that". I think they got the message, and my bartenders friends got quite a kick out of it.
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[quote name='Cuizer2']How big of a tip did you get? :confused:[/quote]

I have a hell of a sense of humor...MOST OF THE TIME!!!

That still isn't as bad as being asked to carry someones bag at a airport when in FULL MILITARY UNIFORM...Strips up to my shoulder no less..Medals covering most of my upper chest.. That is when I lose it.. It has happened 4 different times..:mad:

They won't ever make that mistake again...:rolleyes:
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One time while on Grandeur, I was jogging around the designated jogging track and happened to run into a group of a dozen or so people just standing there. A few people in the group were on the lounge chairs, practically on the track. Some saw me coming around but just stood there and stared, keeping themselves planted right in the middle of my path. With this being the case, I was forced to dodge them and get very close to the lounge chairs. In the process, I caught my foot on one and FLEW forward. I turned around and the people just gave me the worst death-glare in history, like I was wrong for wanting to pass and it served me right for tripping over their chair. I mean come on, it's called the JOGGING track or a reason. I don't see why people expect to be treated surperior to everyone else wherever they choose to station themselves, as if the rules don't apply to them.
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[quote name='TWINCESSMOMMY']Try Cruising with Kids. We have 6 year old twins that have been on 7 cruise and we get rude comments every trip.[/quote]

Well then, tell your twins not to make rude comments. :)
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Last year, I met a lot of elderly and I have no sappy story to share about them being rude to me. I'm in my thirties and I actually got along with some of them very well. I was being threated like a granddaughter and I loved it!I hope I don't encounter too much rudeness on the Mariner, cause I hate rude people :mad:

 

Cindy

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After reading this thread, I felt compelled to share this story...My apologies in advance, as it is long! This Post involves cruising, life in general, and my own personal experiences. The names of the innocent have been changed to remain "anonymous"!

 

(Perhaps I should have created a new thread entitled "Rude People"!)

 

My DH and I are frequent cruisers with RCCL. Many years earlier, on a different RCCL ship "far, far away", we met and befriended a Bartender, whom to this day, remains our true friend. Via e-mail, over the years, our respective families have shared both the triumphs and tragedies of "Life".

 

On a "recent" RCCL sailing, the aforementioned friend was the Bartender at the Disco. Every night, DH and I would go "early" to get a seat for me at the bar, so I could talk to our friend, listen to the trendy music, watch the dancers, and meet new people. After seeing me safely "settled in" at the Disco bar, DH would then proceed to the Casino for his daily donation!

 

On Night 4, DH returned from the Casino to the Disco with two Comedians who were performing on the ship. The four of us started a lively conversation. At about 11:30 PM, a very "large" female, REEKING of perfume and simply REELING from alcohol, squeezed into the bar stool next to me. (Bear in mind that the bar stools are fixed to the floor!)

 

My DH and the two Comedians were standing around me...I was seated upon my bar stool. Consequently, I had my back to the "newcomer".

 

The bar at the Disco on the ship was a designated "Smoking" section. I lit a cigarette! :eek:

 

I immediately felt a current of air from behind me! To my surprise, this woman had grabbed a "Drink Menu" and started vigorously fanning me: My hair and my back!

 

She then started alternately "sucking her tongue like "tsk, tsk", dramatically shrugging her shoulders, and loudly "sighing". After ignoring her for a few minutes, I could not help but turn around and ask, "I'm sorry, but is there a problem?"

 

She replied, with a distinctive Southern "drunken" drawl, "Y'all neeth to puth that out...Right now!"

 

Ever cordial, I replied, "Oh, I'm sorry, girlfriend, but the Bar is the "Smoking" section. Nearly all of the tables in this club are Non-Smoking. You won't have to deal with the smoke over there." (And I gestured to the non-smoking area.)

 

She then said, "But I want to sit at thaaaaah Baaaaaaaaar." (As she nearly toppeled over my lap!)

 

At that point, sensing a "No Win" situation, I swiveled my seat back around to rejoin the conversation with DH and the two Comedians.

 

She then proceeded to yell at our friend, the Bartender, "BOY! BOY!"

 

<Perk>...That got my attention!

 

She then had the audacity to say, "MAKE this B*#ch put out that f&*$ing cigarette!" (She used the "real" words and actually pointed at me with really scary long fingernails!!)

 

Now...our friend the Bartender, is from St. Vincent. He is not "pigmentally-challenged" and also smokes cigarettes. Anyone calling him "Boy" is simply "wrong"!

 

True to his character, he maintained his "cool". He looked the drunken, obese, stupid, overly-scented, and bitchy "Prima Dona wannabe", in the eye, and flashed her his "most dazzling" smile...

 

Cool as a cucumber, he said "This LADY (with emphasis on the word, and a nod of his head in my direction!) may smoke here. I recommend you move to the "Non-smoking" area of the club, or return to your stateroom. This bar area will probably become much smokier as people start coming from the Casino".

 

At this point, my DH and the Comedians (all NON-smokers) had finally "caught wind" (pun intended!) of what was happening. One of the Comedians picked up my pack of cigs, and said, "F - it. I quit five years ago, but getting this obnoxious, drunk, fat, stinky cow "out of my eyesight" is absolutely worth three minutes of my life!" Both the other comedian, and shock of all shocks, my DH, lit up! (I'm sure they did not "inhale"!)

 

Needless to say, the rest of that evening was hilarious, as the two Comedians (and even my witty DH!), tried to "out-Joke" each other with Fat Jokes, Southern Jokes, Hillbilly Jokes, etc!

 

I should qualify this by saying that I consider myself to be an "extremely conscientious" smoker. I always abide by RCCL's rules, and, even though I'm allowed to, I never smoke on my balcony if I hear any neighbors on adjoining balconies. (Never!!!)

 

A female "invaded my space" with her odiferous girth. When she "honored the bar" with her presence, not only did she immediately demand I instantly alter my habits, she insulted my friend, who happens to be a Crew member, and further, demanded an instant change in RCCL policy!

 

The Moral of the Story (in a nutshell): Mean People Suck!

 

Best regards,

Terry

 

P.S.U. My "Role Model" is a Senior Citizen...His name is Joe Paterno, and, as a Penn State Alum, I will always attempt to follow his example: Success with Integrity! One cannot go wrong with THAT mantra!!!!

 

Integrity? ROTFLMAO!

 

You and your group are tying up seats in one of the few smoking sections so you can monopolize the bartender while he is on duty.

 

Not defending the woman's actions - but you, the bartender, your husband and friends were wrong on so many levels. Not only were your actions rude and childish, if someone was watching could have cost your friends their jobs.

 

I don't give a rats pattooty if they are paid to be comedians on the stage - I don't think they are paid to insult passengers in the lounges.

 

It is all wrong on so many levels.

 

Just an observation from one over weight southern female - not all rednecks are southern.

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My wife and I make a game of observing passengers exhibiting rude behavior.

 

If either one of us witnesses a rude passenger, we remark to the other:

 

"in the lifeboat, I'm voting to eat them first!" :)

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All armed forces need to be recognized and shown the respect they deserve,they earned it.

I'm not advocating disrespect or mistaking all uniformed men for Skycaps, but being in the military is a job they chose and are paid for. I don't feel I need to thank them for it. And I have military sisters. Not that thanking is what you said. But all people deserve respect, regardless of chosen profession.
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Wow.

 

I've read this entire thread, and what strikes me the most is the lack of empathy and patience expressed. I'm in my 40s, so have no horse in the race (re: young vs old), but it seems to me that a lot of the stories told could have a completely different slant, depending on your point of view -- if, that is, anyone could be bothered to look at something from a point of view other than their own.

 

Someone not talking to you at breakfast when you sit down and join their table? Perhaps they just aren't morning people (I know I'm not.....I literally can't form coherent sentences for a couple of hours after rising and/or copious amounts of caffeine). Or perhaps they were having an argument amongst themselves when you plopped yourself down. Or maybe they just found out that her mother has cancer and they simply don't feel like chatting, or they are hard of hearing....

 

Someone huffs and puffs while standing in line, and then you don't hold the elevator for them? I suppose you have never complained about something? Or given a thought to the fact that while it may be unpleasant to stand in a long, hot line, it can be a good deal more unpleasant if you are old, have had a knee replacement, and really, really, need to use the bathroom....?

 

Someone who is obviously inebriated is rude to you while in a bar? Inebriated people do have a tendency of being rude. Seems the wiser course would be to simply ignore them rather than resorting to the pretty juvenile tactics of making fun of them.

 

And the story about the lounger --- well, wow. Not even sure what to say about that one. But if I did have something to say, it certainly wouldn't involve using words that can't be spelled out on a message board.

 

I have traveled and cruised a lot in my life. I have run into a few rude people, but only a very few. Some were older than me, a few were younger, and probably the most rude was just about my age. Perhaps I seem to have encountered fewer because I give people the benefit of a doubt before I jump to the conclusion that they are being rude....

 

Once I posted a story about a rude older woman on a cruise who made my son's dinner experience miserable for an evening. People couldn't understand why I didn't "retaliate in kind". But what message would that send to my son? That one only has to be polite if others are polite? That rudeness and retaliation are okay?

 

Hmmm.....

 

My husband and I are leaving tomorrow for a week on the Oasis. I had a bit of time so I thought I would read this entire thread and I'm really glad I did. I suffer, on occasion, from a short fuse when dealing with certain situations. This thread was a wake-up call for me. All of the different scenarios described and all of the different responses forced me to look at what kind of person I want to be. I was reminded that just because it feels good to behave or respond in a certain way doesn't make it right.

 

The above post really struck a cord with me. It argues for a reasoned, intelligent analysis of certain behaviours that might, under any circumstances, press our collective buttons. I know, having read this post, that I will take a more measured attitude to situations when I cruise this week. Thank you for the wisdom offered in your post. I appreciated everything in it and I would love one day to meet you in my travels. I have a lot to learn from you and people like you, in the world, who think beyond themselves.

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