All too soon... Posted November 14, 2011 #276 Share Posted November 14, 2011 I thought the wine experts might get a laugh from this: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All too soon... Posted November 14, 2011 #277 Share Posted November 14, 2011 Dup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MARIANH Posted November 14, 2011 #278 Share Posted November 14, 2011 I thought the wine experts might get a laugh from this: Excellent! But what about " thinking outside of the box"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wwinfl91 Posted November 17, 2011 #279 Share Posted November 17, 2011 Does anyone know if Seabourn ever includes a "Reisling" in their wine list? I know it isn't a "GREAT" wine but I happen to enjoy drinking it. Thanks and have a great next cruise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turtlemichael Posted November 17, 2011 #280 Share Posted November 17, 2011 On the subject of wine putdowns I can still remember being on the receiving end of one, need I say not on a Seabourn ship, or indeed any ship, but at a land based "fine" restaurant many years ago. The sommelier recommended a wine (top of the price list of course) and I said to him, "Thanks for the suggestion, but I'd like a bottle of the xxxx instead". His response "Of the wines inferior to my suggestion, that is a fair second choice". I was suitably admonished :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MARIANH Posted November 18, 2011 #281 Share Posted November 18, 2011 Contributors to the Great ( or awful) Champagne Debate on this thread may be interested to read news about a change of champagne on Sojourn. See Alpius post on thread " Anyone on Sojourn.... South America" Good news? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markham Posted November 18, 2011 #282 Share Posted November 18, 2011 My Seabourn travelling companions and I are most hopeful that Perrier Jouet will be the house champagne on the 2012 Quest world cruise. This is much preferred to Nicolas Feuillatte! Our next choice would be Heidsieck Blue Label. Happy Cocktail Parties Ahead! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
electra2008 Posted November 18, 2011 #283 Share Posted November 18, 2011 Does anyone know if Seabourn ever includes a "Reisling" in their wine list? I know it isn't a "GREAT" wine but I happen to enjoy drinking it. Thanks and have a great next cruise. I hope they do as I only drink white and Hock, reisling type are the ones I like. As far as I can see and taste, wine is like Art you like what you like. It's all subjective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wwinfl91 Posted November 19, 2011 #284 Share Posted November 19, 2011 Thanks for replying on the reisling wine issue. I also enjoy that type of white wine and unfortunately I didn't see if on the list of available "free" wines. I like your comment on comparing taste in wine to taste in art. Have a great next cruise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaneBP Posted November 21, 2011 #285 Share Posted November 21, 2011 Recommended by John Mariani, Esquire Food and Wine Critic: >"A Toast to Bargain Wines by George M. Taber (Scribner, $15)--At a time when the global wine market is in a frenzy to find enough First Growth Bordeaux to supply Chinese millionaires and Russian billionaires, the need for a book like this, by one of America's most commonsense wine writers, is great. needed. But this is not simply a screed of favorite wines--though about half the book are Taber's worthwhile picks; it is a look at how and why the global market got so completely wacky and how a few iconoclastic winemakers changed outmoded ideas of taste and tradition, leading to far more good and diversified wines to choose from, not least from, you guessed it--China. Perhaps Taber's most salient comment is that "All the world's major wine-producing countries are now selling surplus wines at reduced prices, operating in the unregulated and little-known bulk market, where tanker ships or wine are daily bought and sold." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MARIANH Posted November 21, 2011 #286 Share Posted November 21, 2011 Recommended by John Mariani, Esquire Food and Wine Critic:>"A Toast to Bargain Wines by George M. Taber (Scribner, $15)--At a time when the global wine market is in a frenzy to find enough First Growth Bordeaux to supply Chinese millionaires and Russian billionaires, the need for a book like this, by one of America's most commonsense wine writers, is great. needed. But this is not simply a screed of favorite wines--though about half the book are Taber's worthwhile picks; it is a look at how and why the global market got so completely wacky and how a few iconoclastic winemakers changed outmoded ideas of taste and tradition, leading to far more good and diversified wines to choose from, not least from, you guessed it--China. Perhaps Taber's most salient comment is that "All the world's major wine-producing countries are now selling surplus wines at reduced prices, operating in the unregulated and little-known bulk market, where tanker ships or wine are daily bought and sold." And allegedly some of the bulk transfers come rto the UK to be bottled here. It is always worth checking the fine ( sometimes very) print on the bottle label to divine the provenance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seabourn-nail Posted November 23, 2011 #287 Share Posted November 23, 2011 During our Quest TA we still liked our Robert Mondavi Chardonnay and sometimes had the Louis Latour Grand Ardèche for a change. But we are Chardonnay people and we also like Gewürztraminer which was not offered nor on the wine list. I don't think there was Riesling either. Though the Champagne is a bit too "bubbly" .... it is not really bad. Marja Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lincslady Posted November 23, 2011 #288 Share Posted November 23, 2011 During our Quest TA we still liked our Robert Mondavi Chardonnay and sometimes had the Louis Latour Grand Ardèche for a change. But we are Chardonnay people and we also like Gewürztraminer which was not offered nor on the wine list. I don't think there was Riesling either.Though the Champagne is a bit too "bubbly" .... it is not really bad. Marja We liked the Mondavi Chardonnay too - didn't expect to, but we felt it was better than the run of the mill Mondavis. Also liked the Petit Chablis, again not expecting to. I have never seen or been offered a Gewurz or a Riesling either - I think they have a probably underserved reputation, at least in the UK, for being sweet and not particularly good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redheadednancy Posted November 23, 2011 #289 Share Posted November 23, 2011 We liked the Mondavi Chardonnay too - didn't expect to, but we felt it was better than the run of the mill Mondavis. Also liked the Petit Chablis, again not expecting to. I have never seen or been offered a Gewurz or a Riesling either - I think they have a probably underserved reputation, at least in the UK, for being sweet and not particularly good. I like my chardonnays too and I was pleased with the Mondavi...thanks for your recommendation. We also liked a Cote du Rhone and one Spanish one. The only time I heard complaints was when they were serving J.P. Chenet rose in the Colonnade. I am not a rose drinker but apparently it is known to be a very cheap one, and I heard one of the waiters apologize for it and say it was bought by mistake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chairsin Posted November 23, 2011 #290 Share Posted November 23, 2011 Oh dear -- there goes our rose drinking at lunch. May have to try to buy some in FLL pre cruise to bring on board. It also appears that we will buy a Gold package for dinner wines. Guess the rumor of Seabourn taking our concerns over their "fine wines" was just wishful thinking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lincslady Posted November 24, 2011 #291 Share Posted November 24, 2011 I like my chardonnays too and I was pleased with the Mondavi...thanks for your recommendation. We also liked a Cote du Rhone and one Spanish one. The only time I heard complaints was when they were serving J.P. Chenet rose in the Colonnade. I am not a rose drinker but apparently it is known to be a very cheap one, and I heard one of the waiters apologize for it and say it was bought by mistake. If that is so, it is a mistake they have been making for a long time!! Happy Thanksgiving Nancy, and everyone in the USA!:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seabourntraveller Posted December 2, 2011 #292 Share Posted December 2, 2011 Long time "lucrker" here and decided to finally start posting. We are on the Legend tomorrow boarding in Athens and will do a report from the Legend to see if the quality and/or selection of wines has changed at all since our last seabourn cruise. I have found all of you to be so valuable in sharing some good information on this board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chairsin Posted December 2, 2011 #293 Share Posted December 2, 2011 Seabourntraveller, Welcome to the "other " side! Many of us who have been on Seabourn numerous times are very happy to share our thoughts and experiences. But we we also pick up information on this board as well. I hope you have a great cruise and please do report on the house wines! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seabourntraveller Posted December 2, 2011 #294 Share Posted December 2, 2011 Seabourntraveller, Welcome to the "other " side! Many of us who have been on Seabourn numerous times are very happy to share our thoughts and experiences. But we we also pick up information on this board as well. I hope you have a great cruise and please do report on the house wines! Tonight we were offered in Restaurant 2 Santa Margerita Pinot Grigio and another Chardonay from Australia ....both very "drinkable" but I wouldn't classify either as "fine" wines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chairsin Posted December 2, 2011 #295 Share Posted December 2, 2011 Seabourntraveller, Keep in mind that you do not have to limit your wine selection to what they "offer" each day. Get to know the sommelier and ask him/her what other wines they have on board.For instance if they offer a merlot one night and you are not a merlot lover you can say, " What other reds do you have ?" Usually they are very willing to try to find somthing you will find acceptable from their house stock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seabourntraveller Posted December 2, 2011 #296 Share Posted December 2, 2011 Seabourntraveller, Keep in mind that you do not have to limit your wine selection to what they "offer" each day. Get to know the sommelier and ask him/her what other wines they have on board.For instance if they offer a merlot one night and you are not a merlot lover you can say, " What other reds do you have ?" Usually they are very willing to try to find somthing you will find acceptable from their house stock. Will DO!...thanks for the "tip".;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seabourntraveller Posted December 3, 2011 #297 Share Posted December 3, 2011 We tried the Louis Latour "Ardeche" tonight and thus far this bottle is one of the better ones served here onboard the Legend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
white oak Posted December 4, 2011 #298 Share Posted December 4, 2011 We tried the Louis Latour "Ardeche" tonight and thus far this bottle is one of the better ones served here onboard the Legend. That's the problem. The Latour "Ardeche" is an $8 US retail Chardonnay and it is one of the "better ones". For Seabourn probably $4 wholesale. Step it up Seabourn. You have got to spend at least $8 - 10 wholesale for a drinkable wine. This is unacceptable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seabourn-nail Posted December 4, 2011 #299 Share Posted December 4, 2011 We tried the Louis Latour "Ardeche" tonight and thus far this bottle is one of the better ones served here onboard the Legend. We like this one too;)! Of course there are better wines, but this is acceptable to us! Marja Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seabourntraveller Posted December 4, 2011 #300 Share Posted December 4, 2011 We like this one too;)! Of course there are better wines, but this is acceptable to us!Marja We have found this wine to be the most "drinkable" on the list of "fine wines"...looks like we will be sticking to this one unless we discover a hidden treasure while onboard the Legend! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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