ERIE 13 Posted October 20, 2011 #1 Share Posted October 20, 2011 With all the talk of RCCL not going to PR, how about a cruise from NJ going to Aruba, Curacao and Grand Cayman. I am not sure of the distance but could this be done on a ten day cruise. I am getting tired of St Thomas, PR, etc. Any thoughts on this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koshlong Posted October 20, 2011 #2 Share Posted October 20, 2011 Any ABC island cruise I've seen requires 2 sea days from Ft. L/Miami. Add a couple more each way (It took us 3 days to go NY to Ft. L. last fall) and I really don't think it's possible. That's a lot of distance to cover. Possible ports, though, could be Grand Turk and the BVI's? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topo Gigio Posted October 20, 2011 #3 Share Posted October 20, 2011 At least 4 sea days to get to the ABC islands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark_K Posted October 20, 2011 #4 Share Posted October 20, 2011 With all the talk of RCCL not going to PR, how about a cruise from NJ going to Aruba, Curacao and Grand Cayman. I am not sure of the distance but could this be done on a ten day cruise. I am getting tired of St Thomas, PR, etc. Any thoughts on this.Yes, quit limiting yourself to sailing out of NJ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
negc Posted October 21, 2011 #5 Share Posted October 21, 2011 The Jewel of the Seas repositioning cruises from Boston for both this year and next are 14 days in length and visit St. Thomas, St.Maarten, St. Lucia, St. Kitts, Barbados, Curaçao and Aruba before heading back to the US and ending the trip in Tampa. There are six days at sea included in the voyage. They are very popular cruises but I doubt that they would be as successful if they were offered more frequently. Trying to get to Aruba and Curaçao from New Jersey in 10 days or less would limit the number of possible ports of call and would involve what many people might consider too many days at sea.:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
negc Posted October 21, 2011 #6 Share Posted October 21, 2011 At least 4 sea days to get to the ABC islands. And another 4 days to return to the northeast.:rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheaptravel Posted October 21, 2011 #7 Share Posted October 21, 2011 With all the talk of RCCL not going to PR, how about a cruise from NJ going to Aruba, Curacao and Grand Cayman. I am not sure of the distance but could this be done on a ten day cruise. I am getting tired of St Thomas, PR, etc. Any thoughts on this. What is the talk ? I guess I haven't read up on it.....:confused: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sctd71 Posted October 21, 2011 #8 Share Posted October 21, 2011 How about going to Aruba from Florida then?? That would be very nice not having to fly to San Juan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ERIE 13 Posted October 22, 2011 Author #9 Share Posted October 22, 2011 I like the idea of Florida to the ABC islands. Don't have to fly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CruiseLover15 Posted October 26, 2011 #10 Share Posted October 26, 2011 How about going to Aruba from Florida then?? That would be very nice not having to fly to San Juan. I totally agree!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baggal Posted October 26, 2011 #11 Share Posted October 26, 2011 I like the idea of Florida to the ABC islands. Don't have to fly. You can already do that itinerary but not on RCI. Holland America goes from Ft. Lauderdale to Aruba and Curacao (sometimes Bonaire also) and makes a stop at their beautiful private island Half Moon Cay. Its a great 7 day itinerary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashland Posted October 26, 2011 #12 Share Posted October 26, 2011 You can already do that itinerary but not on RCI. Holland America goes from Ft. Lauderdale to Aruba and Curacao (sometimes Bonaire also) and makes a stop at their beautiful private island Half Moon Cay. Its a great 7 day itinerary. Sorry not interested in Holland America..this an itinerary I would like RCI to consider... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IKE Posted October 27, 2011 #13 Share Posted October 27, 2011 I would also like to see a different itinerary out of Cape Liberty,NJ. Love the ABC Islands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kshmom Posted October 27, 2011 #14 Share Posted October 27, 2011 Yes! vary the ports in the carribean, but please don't drop P.R. 9 cruises with RCCL. love them.:) love n.j. port. so convenient! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Booper Posted October 27, 2011 #15 Share Posted October 27, 2011 When the Jewel repositions from Boston to Tampa to start the winter cruising season, it has to stop at Aruba to comply with the PVSA. Both Aruba and Curacao are considered distant foreign ports, since they lie off the coast of South America, and the Jewel repo starts in one American city and ends in another, which necessitates one stop at a distant foreign port. The Caribbean, Mexico and Canada are not considered distant foreign ports. All the full Panama Canal transits stop at Aruba to comply with the law. A closed loop cruise ending in the same city it started only has to visit any one foreign port, which is why the 3/4 day cruises out of Florida always go to the Bahamas. If RCI and Celebrity are not going to Dominica and Barbados on their Cape Liberty sailings (to conserve fuel) the company will not send a ship all the way to Aruba and Grand Cayman; the fuel costs on that itinerary would be astronomical and people wouldn't want to pay the fare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ERIE 13 Posted October 27, 2011 Author #16 Share Posted October 27, 2011 Also not interested in other cruise lines going to ABC islands. Would like RCI to try and work out this trip. Have to go now. Have to head to Port Liberity for our cruise today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
negc Posted October 27, 2011 #17 Share Posted October 27, 2011 Sorry not interested in Holland America..this an itinerary I would like RCI to consider... I am sure that they have already considered it and may revisit that possibility as they set future deployments, but unless they are convinced that offering such an itinerary will attract more guests than the ones they currently offer, they would be foolhardy to change what they are doing. Especially when what they are doing appears to be successful. Passengers can vote with their pocketbooks and when enough decide that they want RCI to offer something new or different, the cruiseline will do so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yogimax Posted October 27, 2011 #18 Share Posted October 27, 2011 I would also like to see a different itinerary out of Cape Liberty The problem is location. From NJ, you can easily get to Canada and Bermuda. That's about it. To go anywhere in the Caribbean from NJ you need mucho sea days which means the cruise duration will be longer than most folks want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeNJ1109 Posted October 27, 2011 #19 Share Posted October 27, 2011 The best cruise we ever took was a Repo cruise on the Voyageur ... 8 nights departed from Miami, stopped first in Aruba, then in Labadee, and the rest at sea before arriving at Cape Liberty. If they had an itinerary like that again, would do that cruise in a NY / NJ minute. Michael and Silke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koshlong Posted October 29, 2011 #20 Share Posted October 29, 2011 How did that work with the Jones Act thingy? Or is Aruba considered to be a "far foreign port"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonnaK Posted October 29, 2011 #21 Share Posted October 29, 2011 What is the talk ? I guess I haven't read up on it.....:confused: There are no more southern caribbean itineraries for the summers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
megr1125 Posted October 29, 2011 #22 Share Posted October 29, 2011 How did that work with the Jones Act thingy? Or is Aruba considered to be a "far foreign port"? yes..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Booper Posted October 29, 2011 #23 Share Posted October 29, 2011 How did that work with the Jones Act thingy? Or is Aruba considered to be a "far foreign port"? Aruba is considered a distant foreign port, along with Curacao, because they are off the coast of South America. Any foreign flagged ship starting at an American port and winding up at a different port must make that one stop at a distant foreign port. All the repos from NY/Boston to FLL/Miami do that Aruba stop. As do the Panama Canal full transits. The PVSA covers passenger ships, the Jones Act covers freighters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Booper Posted October 29, 2011 #24 Share Posted October 29, 2011 There are no more southern caribbean itineraries for the summers. Yes. Royal dropped Dominica and Barbados from the Cape Liberty longer sailings as well. The December Silhouette 12 day trips just head down to the Northern Caribbean and trundle around for 6 days before heading back to NJ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koshlong Posted October 29, 2011 #25 Share Posted October 29, 2011 The PVSA covers passenger ships, the Jones Act covers freighters Thanks for the clarification, BB. I think I knew that the passenger ship rule wasn't actually the "Jones Act" but I can never remember PVSA (Passenger vessel???) and the other just kind of sticks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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