cmdcruiser Posted February 6, 2012 #1 Share Posted February 6, 2012 Another story of a man overboard in Belize. How does this happen? http://www.cruiselawnews.com/2011/01/articles/disappearances-1/another-passenger-overboard-from-a-royal-caribbean-cruise-ship/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reallyitsmema Posted February 6, 2012 #2 Share Posted February 6, 2012 Another story of a man overboard in Belize. How does this happen? http://www.cruiselawnews.com/2011/01/articles/disappearances-1/another-passenger-overboard-from-a-royal-caribbean-cruise-ship/ That article is a year old. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexkrn46 Posted February 6, 2012 #3 Share Posted February 6, 2012 I followed the link and this happened in January. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetdriver787 Posted February 6, 2012 #4 Share Posted February 6, 2012 Posted on January 6, 2011 That was over a year ago! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reallyitsmema Posted February 6, 2012 #5 Share Posted February 6, 2012 I followed the link and this happened in January. January 2011 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daghis Posted February 6, 2012 #6 Share Posted February 6, 2012 Yes, the article is indeed dated January, but it was 2011. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pspercy Posted February 6, 2012 #7 Share Posted February 6, 2012 How ? Most likely he was drunk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arrow Fan Posted February 6, 2012 #8 Share Posted February 6, 2012 How ?Most likely he was drunk. You mean the O.P.? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjldvlks Posted February 6, 2012 #9 Share Posted February 6, 2012 It is basically an advertisement by a plaintiff's lawyer. [The same lawyer deceptively identified as a "maritime security expert" on ABC's show on the Concordia.] Beyond the fact the young man went overboard, it is 100% speculation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRUIS4ME Posted February 6, 2012 #10 Share Posted February 6, 2012 Notice that the article was from Jan 7th - it is a Cruise Law "paper". Not that it was not a tragic incident, regardless. However, I think things are bubbling up in the news given the Concordia incident - news folks are looking for stories. Unfortunately, they will find them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1948buddy Posted February 6, 2012 #11 Share Posted February 6, 2012 What I read states that a British man fell off the Allure near Cozumel just a day or so ago. So is this incorrect? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trainman-2 Posted February 6, 2012 #12 Share Posted February 6, 2012 People rarely "fall" off of a ship! They either "jump" or commit some unsafe act, often fueled by alcohol or drugs, such as standing on a balcony rail or sitting on the balcony rail and then, "accidently" fall over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RBKL Posted February 6, 2012 #13 Share Posted February 6, 2012 What I read states that a British man fell off the Allure near Cozumel just a day or so ago. So is this incorrect? NO, I believe that is correct. I believe the info on the person in Belize who was from PR and sailing on the Liberty was a year old. The Allure incident near Cozumel seems to be current and true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSnow789 Posted February 6, 2012 #14 Share Posted February 6, 2012 Sadly the man on Allure did in fact intentionally jump to his death. It was a suicide as messages were left for his family. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1948buddy Posted February 6, 2012 #15 Share Posted February 6, 2012 I read also that they had video from a security camera of him using a table to stand on to jump over the railing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSnow789 Posted February 6, 2012 #16 Share Posted February 6, 2012 I read also that they had video from a security camera of him using a table to stand on to jump over the railing. Yes, from Deck 11 :( . Another passenger saw him jump and reported it immediately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ren1216 Posted February 6, 2012 #17 Share Posted February 6, 2012 you mean the o.p.? I got it :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tjukka Posted February 6, 2012 #18 Share Posted February 6, 2012 Another story of a man overboard in Belize. How does this happen? http://www.cruiselawnews.com/2011/01/articles/disappearances-1/another-passenger-overboard-from-a-royal-caribbean-cruise-ship/ Not this year I was on the ship Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cupcrazy Posted February 6, 2012 #19 Share Posted February 6, 2012 People rarely "fall" off of a ship! They either "jump" or commit some unsafe act, often fueled by alcohol or drugs, such as standing on a balcony rail or sitting on the balcony rail and then, "accidently" fall over. According to ABC's 20/20 this happens ALL the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu K Posted February 6, 2012 #20 Share Posted February 6, 2012 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-16883382 The Cozzemel one very sad. Stu k Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatBelle Posted February 6, 2012 #21 Share Posted February 6, 2012 What a pity about they guy and about people who suicide. The article has a mistake it says Spanish TV and all that is South American not Spanish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ladybug1s Posted February 6, 2012 #22 Share Posted February 6, 2012 Since it was reported, did the ship go back and look for him? Yes, from Deck 11 :( . Another passenger saw him jump and reported it immediately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leerobbs Posted February 6, 2012 #23 Share Posted February 6, 2012 Since it was reported, did the ship go back and look for him? Typically, the cruise ship will not make any effort to look for said jumper. The passengers have prebooked excursions and they are on a tight schedule so having a search and rescue effort like that would not be possible. I know in all cases they will notify the local authorities (in this case the Mexican Coast guard)who will begin the process of search and rescue. In today's modern GPS world coordinates can be given to the Coast Guard and they in turn can pin point where to begin looking. It is so sad when passengers with mental health issues feel so desperate they make decisions like this. As mentioned, "falling off a cruise ship" is such a misrepresentation of what actually happens it becomes dishonest to report it in that way. Of course they look for the passenger! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reallyitsmema Posted February 6, 2012 #24 Share Posted February 6, 2012 Typically, the cruise ship will not make any effort to look for said jumper. The passengers have prebooked excursions and they are on a tight schedule so having a search and rescue effort like that would not be possible. I know in all cases they will notify the local authorities (in this case the Mexican Coast guard)who will begin the process of search and rescue. In today's modern GPS world coordinates can be given to the Coast Guard and they in turn can pin point where to begin looking. It is so sad when passengers with mental health issues feel so desperate they make decisions like this. As mentioned, "falling off a cruise ship" is such a misrepresentation of what actually happens it becomes dishonest to report it in that way. Of course they look for the passenger! The ships do look for someone overboard, especially since they had an eyewitness and video evidence of the man going overboard. Allure and Navigator both launched their rescue boats and started searching. Allure did arrive in port late. No idea where you are getting your information. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PattyG12 Posted February 6, 2012 #25 Share Posted February 6, 2012 They absolutely DO go look for someone. I was on the Explorer when a crew member "lowered himself into the water". Once it was discovered we turned around and spent the whole night going back and forth in a grid pattern until the US Coast guard could get there to take over and we started back on our way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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