Wifi without the charges?

[cruiseco]

 

Because it is. And they know it.

 

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Yep, And it's one of the tools of choice for online pervs. You can hack into some wifi network and do all of your kiddie porn surfing knowing that if the law comes knocking it will be on some innocent schmuck's door.

[Davechipp74]

It's interesting you state you've been PAID to break in... that either means Russian mafia-type employment, or you were authorized to TEST someone's network... Being paid to play Johnny Long for a company is a bit different than stealing to get your own connection for your own use. *laughing*

i should be more clear, i qualified to be paid to test, and the teach how, and what can be done to improve several computer networks

[GORDONCHICK]

i should be more clear, i qualified to be paid to test, and the teach how, and what can be done to improve several computer networks

 

But I'm pretty sure no cruise line is paying you to hack into their wi-fi.... Wouldn't be surprised if you wound up on someone's "do not cruise" list. The lines have people who read CC and have figured out who many of the posters are - I know I was (but in a very good and fun way!).

[chipmaster]

WIFI decoder ROFL..

 

Okay the joker is recommending that you pretty much break and enter.

 

The funny thing is public WIFI isn't actually secure, its open access. Anyone can really sniff it with a reciever and decoder. Kind of like listening in on your neighbor's conversation and if you hear his password and login name, steal it and use it as your own.. great advice from an honest person!

 

In your neighborhood most smart people to password protect their local wifi, its common knowledge that by sniffing out the signal and with a little work you could extract password and surf for free. But even with that it would take more time and you'd have to catch the exact transmission that you used to login in and your password etc. if on the ship. If this joker wasn't online at the moment you were doing it all he'd see is what you were typing and where you were surfing etc. etc. he still wouldn't be able to surf for free after you logged out.

 

Also since WIFI on ship isnt' encrypted at all he is feeding you all more bull.

 

If he is getting paid its some sucker paying him.

[excitedidiot]

its no more illegal than bringing a rum-runner on board, perfectly legal to own, and use in the entire western hemisphere.

if someone (the host in particular) wishes to broadcast the password over the open air, and i have a legal device witch can decode it, no crime has been committed. sorry ladyshiva you have been grossly misinformed.

i have been hacking computers and networks since it was called phone-freaking (over 25 years) in fact im am employed part time to teach major companys what they can do to better protect themselves from people like me, so i can assure you i am very familiar with all kinds of laws. none of witch apply here

 

One word describes what you propose:

fraud/frôd/

Noun:

Wrongful or criminal deception intended to result in financial or personal gain.

The alternate definition describes you:

A person or thing intended to deceive others, typically by unjustifiably claiming or being credited with accomplishments or qualities.

[dmwnc1959]

Equating the smuggling of personal rum-runners to the theft of ships services is not the same thing. Maybe if you sneaked into a bar and stole a bottle of rum from behind the counter, then that would be about the same.

 

Either way, the WiFi and internet is not free.

[janice2348]

It's not all that important to us to get the wifi. Sorry, didn 't mean for this to turn into a "it's legal or illegal" debate. :eek: I don't necessarily condone it but then again, it's a personal choice. Thanks for the info-and no, I will not be "hacking" into the wifi. DH has been convinced he can live without it for a few days.

[near the beach]

Ship wifi and internet are very slow. If it became free to all on board it would become so much slower. It’s dial up speed now.

[Gail & Marty sailing away]

Ship wifi and internet are very slow. If it became free to all on board it would become so much slower. It’s dial up speed now.

You are correct ..

[DanJ]

Ship wifi and internet are very slow. If it became free to all on board it would become so much slower. It’s dial up speed now.

 

So, it's improved, then LOL

[Corvette Girl]

Come on people, be honest. Buy the minutes and be done with it. We buy 100 minutes at a time and I don't begrudge them a dime.

[Yti82]

If you buy a block of minutes and don't use all of it, do the unused minutes get credited to your account at the end of the cruise?

[DanJ]

If you buy a block of minutes and don't use all of it, do the unused minutes get credited to your account at the end of the cruise?

 

No, when you buy a package, it's use it or lose it.

[paul929207]

If you buy a block of minutes and don't use all of it, do the unused minutes get credited to your account at the end of the cruise?

Sorry no refunds.

[sail7seas]

If you buy a block of minutes and don't use all of it, do the unused minutes get credited to your account at the end of the cruise?

 

 

There is no refund for unused minutes however if you are on a b-to-b, they will carry the minutes forward for you to use during the next segment.

 

We always buy a larger package when on b-to-b and that saves us money..... more minutes at a lower per minute cost.

 

 

 

[infowire]

Were you able to use mac cloning to get online ? I would private message you but i don't have it enabled yet.

 

P.S

 

Sorry brought this thread back from the dead.

Edited February 4, 2015 by infowire

[thinfool]

The reason he wants the wifi is he "surfs the net" while drinking his morning coffee.

 

You might tell him that, with few exceptions, no one surfs the net onboard ship. It's a lot more like a doggy paddle....a very slow one. :D;)

 

Having said that, the cruise industry is working to upgrade and speed up connections onboard. Some have apps that allow smartphone users to text between passengers onboard for a nominal cost.

[cruisead]

You might tell him that, with few exceptions, no one surfs the net onboard ship. It's a lot more like a doggy paddle....a very slow one. :D;)

 

Having said that, the cruise industry is working to upgrade and speed up connections onboard. Some have apps that allow smartphone users to text between passengers onboard for a nominal cost.

 

This thread is 3 years old and the OP has long since taken their cruise.

 

Infowire, the OP probably won't come back here to answer.

[infowire]

This thread is 3 years old and the OP has long since taken their cruise.

 

Infowire, the OP probably won't come back here to answer.

 

 

 

I forgot to quote, it wasnt for the OP anyways.

 

 

 

The signal (WiFi) isn't encrypted, the proxy only allows passing traffic from authenticated connections. Likely it authenticates a session (after your user/password) by tracking the MAC address of the wireless device, so I suspect, you could spoof someone else's MAC address once they were connected, but until they disappeared, it would be hard to not lose half the packets transmitted. Hopefully this was a simple enough explanation. if not, let me know, I can elaborate

 

 

Your Computer's Wifi --- WiFi access point -- proxy/router -- satellite internet connection

 

 

Anyways it looks like i am bringing my antenna and backtrack with. I was thinking maybe a portable router so i can clone a mac and make my own hot spot.

[NMLady]

Were you able to use mac cloning to get online ? I would private message you but i don't have it enabled yet.

 

P.S

 

Sorry brought this thread back from the dead.

 

CC does not have private messaging.

[Hlitner]

The OP's DH should appreciate a few days away from the online world. There are plenty of things to do on cruises so one should take advantage and avoid the internet and TV.

 

Hank

[infowire]

The OP's DH should appreciate a few days away from the online world. There are plenty of things to do on cruises so one should take advantage and avoid the internet and TV.

 

Hank

 

Agreed, just need to communicate for work a little bit.

[barante]

We took a 10-day cruise in December on the Grandeur of the Seas out of Baltimore. When I saw the Internet prices, I thought they were very high. And there were no set-minute plans that would have covered the whole cruise; usually they were only 24 or 48 hours in duration. So I swallowed hard and bought the unlimited Internet plan, which came to $200, including my Gold discount.

 

I was very happy with the plan. I am a writer working on a book. Since I did not have to save minutes but could go whole-hog, I would be reading something and needed more information. I could go online in the middle of the night and check various archives.

 

So for me, it was worth the money. But everyone is different.

[sail7seas]

The OP's DH should appreciate a few days away from the online world. There are plenty of things to do on cruises so one should take advantage and avoid the internet and TV.

 

Hank

 

The only way my late husband was able to be away from his office for extended length of time was internet access. Not everyone has the luxury of turning off and tuning out. Because of internet access, we did a huge amount of travel and now that he is gone, I am most grateful for that.

 

None of us should tell others what they should or should not do. How do we presume to know?

Turn off the TV? Why? If that is what someone does to relax, who are we to tell anyone what they should do? If they want to watch movies their whole cruise, it's their choice.

 

Edited February 6, 2015 by sail7seas

[paul929207]

The only way my late husband was able to be away from his office for extended length of time was internet access. Not everyone has the luxury of turning off and tuning out. Because of internet access, we did a huge amount of travel and now that he is gone, I am most grateful for that.

 

None of us should tell others what they should or should not do. How do we presume to know?

Turn off the TV? Why? If that is what someone does to relax, who are we to tell anyone what they should do? If they want to watch movies their whole cruise, it's their choice.

 

Absolutely correct. Each person has their own responsibilities. We are fortunate to be retired and all our family members are (currently) in good health. However, I understand there are others who feel they must have more connectivity when away.