Oville Posted August 13, 2013 #101 Share Posted August 13, 2013 Did those that were a cruise away from the next level then have to basically start over to reach that levels. For example, if they have 9 points when the system is changed and Elite is changed to say 25 points, would they have to have another 16 points to reach Elite with the new program, even though in the old system they would only need 1 point to reach Elite. Not sure I'm explaining this correctly, but it is very important to those that are so close to Elite, but might not be cruising again until next year. When Royal changed if you were onepoint away from Diamond, you were one cruise away after the conversion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NLH Arizona Posted August 13, 2013 #102 Share Posted August 13, 2013 No, if you had 9 points you were Diamond after the next cruise. Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oville Posted August 13, 2013 #103 Share Posted August 13, 2013 Thank you. I edited my answer but the intent is the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
celebrity Posted August 13, 2013 #104 Share Posted August 13, 2013 "No grandfathering"??? So when Celebrity creates the two new Captains Club levels everyone is going to be reset to ZERO days and will have to start again from scratch??? I hope not:confused: I hope this is a joke..if I have to start from scratch..I will be very upset. I have paid for my cabin as well as my 2 sons cabins over the years and earned staus the hard way..no suites..just one balcony and one inside cabin on each cruise. I have spent serious $$ so I truly hope they don't start from zero. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob278 Posted August 13, 2013 #105 Share Posted August 13, 2013 Did those that were a cruise away from the next level then have to basically start over to reach that levels. For example, if they have 9 points when the system is changed and Elite is changed to say 25 points, would they have to have another 16 points to reach Elite with the new program, even though in the old system they would only need 1 point to reach Elite. Not sure I'm explaining this correctly, but it is very important to those that are so close to Elite, but might not be cruising again until next year. When RCL converted, they translated everyone's points to the new scale. Those who had 9 points (1 away from Diamond/Elite), were given 76 credits (7 away from Diamond). So they needed 1 7-day or longer cruise (or a 4-day in a suite) to reach the new level. The only ones who got hurt were those who had planned a 3 or 4 day cruise expecting to make it to the next level. Nobody had anything taken away from them. Their number of points/credits just changed and were applied to a new table. Anyone who had reached a particular level stayed at that level (a few actually got a new, slightly higher level when the emerald level was added). Here is the chart through the first number of credits for Diamond +. If someone has 25 points now, they will likely be given the new level (but I think it would make business sense to set the bar a little higher, possibly 30-35 just to control the numbers a little bit). I suspect that you could replace Gold with Classic, Platinum (and maybe Emerald) with Select, Diamond with Elite and Diamond + with whatever they call the new level we all expect. Thanks to Cruise Critic member TPKeller who created the full chart. 1 => 8 => Gold 2 => 15 => Gold 3 => 22 => Gold 4 => 29 => Gold 5 => 38 => Platinum 6 => 45 => Platinum 7 => 52 => Platinum 8 => 69 => Emerald 9 => 76 => Emerald 10 => 83 => Diamond 11 => 90 => Diamond 12 => 97 => Diamond 13 => 104 => Diamond 14 => 111 => Diamond 15 => 118 => Diamond 16 => 125 => Diamond 17 => 132 => Diamond 18 => 139 => Diamond 19 => 146 => Diamond 20 => 153 => Diamond 21 => 160 => Diamond 22 => 167 => Diamond 23 => 174 => Diamond 24 => 181 => Diamond + Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
celebrity Posted August 13, 2013 #106 Share Posted August 13, 2013 Great news! Thank you Celebrity Cruises for responding. Just seeing this now..thanks Celebrity! We are booked for Sept and April with many more to come now that my husband is retired and I have more vacation time. I'm ecstatic. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honeybearhollow Posted August 13, 2013 #107 Share Posted August 13, 2013 Did those that were a cruise away from the next level then have to basically start over to reach that levels. For example, if they have 9 points when the system is changed and Elite is changed to say 25 points, would they have to have another 16 points to reach Elite with the new program, even though in the old system they would only need 1 point to reach Elite. Not sure I'm explaining this correctly, but it is very important to those that are so close to Elite, but might not be cruising again until next year. I wish some one would answer this, because I have the same question. Would there be a 6 month grace period to allow some one the chance to attain that level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob278 Posted August 13, 2013 #108 Share Posted August 13, 2013 I wish some one would answer this, because I have the same question. Would there be a 6 month grace period to allow some one the chance to attain that level. Well, nobody knows for a fact how celebrity is going to do it, but check up a couple of posts to see how RCL handled it. No grace period was necessary because they translated the "old" points to the "new" points that still left a person 1 cruise away from the next level (although in most cases, it would take a 7-day cruise where before a 3 or 4-day might have done the trick). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oville Posted August 13, 2013 #109 Share Posted August 13, 2013 Well, nobody knows for a fact how celebrity is going to do it, but check up a couple of posts to see how RCL handled it. No grace period was necessary because they translated the "old" points to the "new" points that still left a person 1 cruise away from the next level (although in most cases, it would take a 7-day cruise where before a 3 or 4-day might have done the trick). That's not true. If you look at your own chart it would take only a 4 day cruise to go from Emerald to Diamond and a 1 day cruise to go from Diamond to Diamond Plus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orator Posted August 13, 2013 #110 Share Posted August 13, 2013 I wish some one would answer this, because I have the same question. Would there be a 6 month grace period to allow some one the chance to attain that level. The 6 month period was something I suggested. It does not come from Celebrity or any other source. I just think that it would be a good way to increase business by encouraging people to move up. As I've said many, many times in my other posts on this subject. No one has inside information that should be deemed reliable. Celebrity will announce what they want to announce when they want to announce it. Anything I say is only my own speculation based on my connecting the dots. Don't think I'll participate in this discussion any further. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NLH Arizona Posted August 13, 2013 #111 Share Posted August 13, 2013 The 6 month period was something I suggested. It does not come from Celebrity or any other source. I just think that it would be a good way to increase business by encouraging people to move up. As I've said many, many times in my other posts on this subject. No one has inside information that should be deemed reliable. Celebrity will announce what they want to announce when they want to announce it. Anything I say is only my own speculation based on my connecting the dots. Don't think I'll participate in this discussion any further. I think that is an excellent suggestion. Not only would it help those that are close to the next tier, but it would help Celebrity's bottom line. They would be showing their loyality to their customers while making some $$$'s for themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob278 Posted August 13, 2013 #112 Share Posted August 13, 2013 That's not true. If you look at your own chart it would take only a 4 day cruise to go from Emerald to Diamond and a 1 day cruise to go from Diamond to Diamond Plus. I don't think so as the cruises after the change would be counted on the new scale. Example: On the day of conversion, you have 9 Celebrity credits and you are converted to 76 cruise points. A 4-day cruise (unless in CC or a suite) would get you only to 80. Not enough for Diamond/Elite. You would need a 7-day cruise to get the 83 points needed for Diamond/Elite. And I don't understand why, in your scenario, it would be a 4-day for Platinum to Emerald and only a 1-day for D to D+. Both steps would take 1 credit or 7 points. 9/76 to 10/83 or 23/174 to 24/181. But we are really talking only theoretically anyway since Celebrity will do whatever they want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Islander500 Posted August 13, 2013 #113 Share Posted August 13, 2013 Hi all, While we can't comment on the VIP program currently being tested, we can confirm that you will not lose any current Captain's Club benefits that you are receiving. Yay. Thanks for the great news! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruising teacher Posted August 13, 2013 #114 Share Posted August 13, 2013 :)I am very happy to see progress towards new levels for the Captain's Club! Really hope they are doing the VIP program on my September cruises on the Millennium and the Solstice. I just hope that the VIP program is transparent and consistent so that one knows what to expect when booking a Celebrity cruise. BTW I just printed out my sailing history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C 2 C Posted August 13, 2013 Author #115 Share Posted August 13, 2013 BTW I just printed out my sailing history. I think that it must be a long one.. If my memory is correct you are a member of the "Century Club"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruising teacher Posted August 13, 2013 #116 Share Posted August 13, 2013 I think that it must be a long one..If my memory is correct you are a member of the "Century Club"? Yes we are. But I know you are a member of a much more distinguished club. Hope to see you and Joanne very soon. Perhaps in Michaels Club:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warmwinds Posted August 13, 2013 #117 Share Posted August 13, 2013 If they keep everyone where they are, don't take away any perks...I don't see the big deal. Sure, bump up those with gazillion cruises to shore excursions to the moon and back - none of us will notice they are gone. Since it's always been 10 to get to Elite (is that right?) - keep it that way. Then you'll get the very nice but not spectacular perks we Elites with 10 to whatever cruises get. It is going to take me a lifetime to get to the next level (what...25 points? 35? 50?) so I know I'll never get there, but I'm very happy and appreciative of what I do have. I could care less what rose petal strewn kow-towing they do for those above me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C 2 C Posted August 13, 2013 Author #118 Share Posted August 13, 2013 Yes we are. But I know you are a member of a much more distinguished club. Hope to see you and Joanne very soon. Perhaps in Michaels Club:) We would really look forward to it.. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare TLCOhio Posted August 14, 2013 #119 Share Posted August 14, 2013 Have skimmed through this posting about potential new "VIP" options, including for some in suites. Not sure if or not that this is connected. From USA Today yesterday, they have this headline: "Cruises go self-serve with wine, beer" with these highlights: "At home, you want a beer or a glass of wine you help yourself. Cruise lines are increasingly adapting a similar style. Self-serve is becoming the rage. Celebrity Cruises started the trend in a rather elegant way, with Italian-made 'enomatic' wine dispensers installed in the Cellar Masters wine bar on Celebrity Solstice, featuring fine wines from around the world. The idea was that cruise passengers can try a sampling whenever they want – just a 1-ounce taste in up to a 5-ounce glass – by swiping their shipboard spending card at the fancy dispensary machines. Only cards coded for those 21 and older will work on the self-serve machines. The machines can now be found on nearly every Celebrity ship. Recently, Norwegian quietly added wine dispensers to its fleet, starting with the Norwegian Breakaway, which debuted in the spring. They will also be found on the Norwegian Getaway, which debuts from Miami in January." Don't know how much in this story is . . . reality . . . versus . . . media hype?? When last on the Solstice in June 2011, the did not have the Cellar Masters feature. We are looking forward to our first “down under” visit, Jan. 20-Feb. 3, 2014, Celebrity Solstice sailing, Sydney to Auckland/NZ doing 14 days on this ship. With this potential Celebrity VIP program, are there any added guesses or predictions for how this will come together?? Then, there is the 1-2-3-Go program for free drinks, etc. As I understand currently, that will not apply in Michael's Club with the wine dispensers. BUT, will it change and/or be modified? Full story at: http://www.usatoday.com/experience/cruise/article/cruises-go-self-serve-with-wine-beer/2642325/ THANKS! Enjoy! Terry in Ohio Celebrity Solstice Visual Highlights? From our June 7-19, 2011, Solstice cruise from Barcelona that had stops in France, Italy, Kotor and Dubrovnik, I have pull together a number of wonderful visuals of the Solstice, its features, food, entertainment, options, etc. We are now at over 9,541 views for this shorter version of my larger full review of that cruise and all of the port pictures/details. Check these postings and added info at: http://boards.cruisecritic.com/showthread.php?t=1803477 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C 2 C Posted August 14, 2013 Author #120 Share Posted August 14, 2013 As I understand currently, that will not apply in Michael's Club with the wine dispensers. BUT, will it change and/or be modified? The wine dispensers are not in Michael's.. only In Cellar Masters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wallie5446 Posted August 14, 2013 #121 Share Posted August 14, 2013 Don't know how much in this story is . . . reality . . . versus . . . media hype?? THANKS! Enjoy! Terry in Ohiourl] Reality, we have one in our house from William Sonoma, called a Sky Bar. They work! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare TLCOhio Posted August 14, 2013 #122 Share Posted August 14, 2013 The wine dispensers are not in Michael's.. only In Cellar Masters. Appreciate your clarification. Just re-checked the Solstice lay-out/map. Got the two different locations mixed up. Sorry! THANKS! Enjoy! Terry in Ohio Did a June 7-19, 2011, Celebrity Solstice cruise from Barcelona that had stops in Villefranche, ports near Pisa and Rome, Naples, Kotor, Venice and Dubrovnik. Enjoyed great weather and a wonderful trip. Dozens of wonderful visuals with key highlights, tips, comments, etc., on these postings. We are now at 139,095 views for this live/blog re-cap on our first sailing with Celebrity and much on wonderful Barcelona. Check these postings and added info at: http://www.boards.cruisecritic.com/showthread.php?t=1426474 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oville Posted August 14, 2013 #123 Share Posted August 14, 2013 I don't think so as the cruises after the change would be counted on the new scale. Example: On the day of conversion, you have 9 Celebrity credits and you are converted to 76 cruise points. A 4-day cruise (unless in CC or a suite) would get you only to 80. Not enough for Diamond/Elite. You would need a 7-day cruise to get the 83 points needed for Diamond/Elite. And I don't understand why, in your scenario, it would be a 4-day for Platinum to Emerald and only a 1-day for D to D+. Both steps would take 1 credit or 7 points. 9/76 to 10/83 or 23/174 to 24/181. But we are really talking only theoretically anyway since Celebrity will do whatever they want. But of course you proved yourself wrong once again. Guess what, yes 4 days would get you to 80, hence Diamond, as Diamond is achieved at 80 cruises days. I could go on about D/D+, but..."... I never mentioned Platinum, so not sure of what your point is there. Agree, not sure any of us know what Celebrity will do. You however introduced the conversion chart and made erroneous comments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvufan Posted August 14, 2013 #124 Share Posted August 14, 2013 Celebrity doesn't want to make anyone mad or run them off. I am sure that whatever changes they make will take into consideration all the fears expressed in this thread. Happy Sails to You OOOEEE :D:D Bob and Phyl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob278 Posted August 14, 2013 #125 Share Posted August 14, 2013 Mea culpa. I was basing all of my comments on the chart. I did not go to the RCL site to look at the actual thresholds for each level. So where I was looking at 76 days to 83 days, it should have been 76 to 80. Your math is correct, but I stand by my general point that almost no one who was within a single cruise was put in worse shape. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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