reallyitsmema Posted June 19, 2014 #51 Share Posted June 19, 2014 We were on B2B Allure in May and there are not life jackets anywhere in the cabins, they are at the muster stations. Back when we sailed on Oasis a couple of years ago they included animated footage of people using the chutes in the muster drill video, that included passengers using these chutes. Needless to say there was a loud gasp as we watched it. We've just come off Allure and I noticed that it is no longer a part of the video footage but they are still on the ship. In a real emergency I'd use whatever I had to to get off the ship. This is a RCI video that shows the life rafts and chutes. Not my first choice, but beats the alternative. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5aFAIYsGaHY There is also a whole section on the cruise line's website about safety and security that should answer all the OP questions. http://www.royalcaribbean.com/contentPage.do?cS=NAVBAR&pagename=royal_caribbean_security_guide&pnav=5&snav=8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iluvcruising2 Posted June 19, 2014 #52 Share Posted June 19, 2014 Thanks for the link, I did not realize they could hold that many people. I would love to see inside one, just to see however, not to have to use. At tender ports, the ship's lifeboats are commonly used as tenders. We have been on a few. Some pictures of the lifeboats on the Celebrity Silhouette here. http://guitar123foodandtravel.blogspot.sg/2013/12/kotor-montenegro-port-of-call.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PSCruiser Posted June 19, 2014 #53 Share Posted June 19, 2014 There is sufficient lifeboat space for the 90% of passengers that arrive for muster on time and shut up when the instructions are given. At that time they are assigned seats. The other 10%, the ones too important to be on time, will be hanging on those rails on the sides. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhfish3 Posted June 19, 2014 #54 Share Posted June 19, 2014 There is sufficient lifeboat space for the 90% of passengers that arrive for muster on time and shut up when the instructions are given. At that time they are assigned seats.The other 10%, the ones too important to be on time, will be hanging on those rails on the sides. Lmao well said Sent from my DROID RAZR using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRUISEFAN0001 Posted June 19, 2014 #55 Share Posted June 19, 2014 (edited) There is sufficient lifeboat space for the 90% of passengers that arrive for muster on time and shut up when the instructions are given. At that time they are assigned seats.The other 10%, the ones too important to be on time, will be hanging on those rails on the sides. I suspect a number of people would be less than honest if they didn't admit that same thought crossed their minds during each muster drill - when those stragglers show up late and in no hurry. On the plus side...the lifeboat units on all the ships we've enjoyed are not only impressive in terms of how they handle passenger quantities...but its good to know they get tested regularly too. We've enjoyed watching the "yellow boat dance" in the water on multiple cruises now... The Oasis class ships have lifeboats that hold 370 people per boat...others are smaller but still a good size all the passengers... Edited June 19, 2014 by CRUISEFAN0001 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjldvlks Posted June 19, 2014 #56 Share Posted June 19, 2014 . . . its good to know they get tested regularly too. We've enjoyed watching the "yellow boat dance" in the water on multiple cruises now . . . Absolutely -- both that the boats get tested and that the crew get a chance to operate them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbjboyle Posted June 19, 2014 #57 Share Posted June 19, 2014 For those that are genuinely interested on this topic: http://www.uscg.mil/hq/cg5/csncoe/question.asp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TravelerThom Posted June 19, 2014 #58 Share Posted June 19, 2014 At tender ports, the ship's lifeboats are commonly used as tenders. We have been on a few. Some pictures of the lifeboats on the Celebrity Silhouette here. http://guitar123foodandtravel.blogspot.sg/2013/12/kotor-montenegro-port-of-call.html Most cruise ships have SOME of their lifeboats designed to also function as tenders. Typically the tenders have higher ceiling, and more horsepower than standard lifeboats. I think that Silhouette has 22 lifeboats, and of these #7, #8, #9, #10, #11 and #12 are configured to double as tenders (not 100% sure those are the numbers, but think I'm correct). Oasis and Allure are unusual in that they have NO lifeboats configured as tenders. I think all ships have some supplemental lifevests at the lifeboats, but Oasis and Allure were the first ships I have been on where there were no lifevests provided in passenger cabins, and ALL passenger lifevests are at the lifeboats. Thom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LetsGetWet! Posted June 19, 2014 #59 Share Posted June 19, 2014 Most cruise ships have SOME of their lifeboats designed to also function as tenders. Typically the tenders have higher ceiling, and more horsepower than standard lifeboats. Oasis and Allure are unusual in that they have NO lifeboats configured as tenders. Interesting, I didn't know that. So - the ships that have to use tenders the most due to their size - are also the only ships that don't have any tenders of their own? [emoji33] Sent from my Galaxy S4 via Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare LMaxwell Posted June 19, 2014 #60 Share Posted June 19, 2014 Interesting, I didn't know that. So - the ships that have to use tenders the most due to their size - are also the only ships that don't have any tenders of their own? [emoji33] Sent from my Galaxy S4 via Tapatalk Oasis class do not have any ports of call that require tenders. That is why they do not go to Coco Cay or to Grand Cayman. It is also the main reason for building the pier at Labadee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LetsGetWet! Posted June 19, 2014 #61 Share Posted June 19, 2014 Oasis class do not have any ports of call that require tenders. That is why they do not go to Coco Cay or to Grand Cayman. It is also the main reason for building the pier at Labadee. Ah, ok, thanks - didn't realize that. So then, those two ships have the least number of cruise ports available to them due to size, and in addition they don't go to any ports where they tender - either those where all cruise ships tender, or ones where they'd have to tender due to their size. Wow, didn't realize their ports of call & itineraries were THAT limited! Can't say I'll never cruise Oasis class for sure, but that would be another negative for me choosing one of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sat1 Posted June 19, 2014 #62 Share Posted June 19, 2014 I watched a safety drill on the Navigator last month. Each life boat will seat 150 passengers and 5 crew members. As others have posted, covered rafts will be lowered, these will look like an inverted cone, or funnel. Some fun, hunh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare LMaxwell Posted June 19, 2014 #63 Share Posted June 19, 2014 Ah, ok, thanks - didn't realize that. So then, those two ships have the least number of cruise ports available to them due to size, and in addition they don't go to any ports where they tender - either those where all cruise ships tender, or ones where they'd have to tender due to their size. Wow, didn't realize their ports of call & itineraries were THAT limited! Can't say I'll never cruise Oasis class for sure, but that would be another negative for me choosing one of them. Eastern is Nassau, St. Thomas, St. Maarten. Western is Labadee, Falmouth (constructed partially to accept Oasis class), Cozumel. Very limited; until they go back to Europe I don't think the big bruisers have gone anywhere else. The eastern itinerary is a longer distance and has some pretty short port times especially for Nassau 2:00 PM departure (they must be contractually obligated to deliver a certain amount of PAX per year to Nassau in order to secure berthing for the company is my guess). When Oasis 3 comes out there is question as to if Port Canaveral gets the ship...and if it does...where does it go? My guess would be it follows an O/A itinerary with one day difference. I.E. Oasis departs Saturday doing eastern, Allure departs sunday doing western, Oasis 3 departs Saturday doing western or departs Sunday doing eastern; and then they all alternate week to week. Either way, I assure you, there will be plenty of lifeboats. Now if Royal would just give us some lifeboats that accept casual dress on non-formal sinkings we could all be happy. :D:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjldvlks Posted June 19, 2014 #64 Share Posted June 19, 2014 I watched a safety drill on the Navigator last month. Each life boat will seat 150 passengers and 5 crew members. As others have posted, covered rafts will be lowered, these will look like an inverted cone, or funnel. Some fun, hunh?In the [hopefully unlikely] event they are actually needed it will sure beat swimming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LetsGetWet! Posted June 19, 2014 #65 Share Posted June 19, 2014 Eastern is Nassau, St. Thomas, St. Maarten. Western is Labadee, Falmouth (constructed partially to accept Oasis class), Cozumel. Very limited; until they go back to Europe I don't think the big bruisers have gone anywhere else. The eastern itinerary is a longer distance and has some pretty short port times especially for Nassau 2:00 PM departure (they must be contractually obligated to deliver a certain amount of PAX per year to Nassau in order to secure berthing for the company is my guess). When Oasis 3 comes out there is question as to if Port Canaveral gets the ship...and if it does...where does it go? My guess would be it follows an O/A itinerary with one day difference. I.E. Oasis departs Saturday doing eastern, Allure departs sunday doing western, Oasis 3 departs Saturday doing western or departs Sunday doing eastern; and then they all alternate week to week. Either way, I assure you, there will be plenty of lifeboats. Now if Royal would just give us some lifeboats that accept casual dress on non-formal sinkings we could all be happy. :D:D Six ports total in all of the Caribbean & Bahamas to pick from! Wow... Further cementing their reputation (at least for me) that they're more amusement parks which happen to float than traditional cruise ships. I guess I haven't been interested enough yet to check and realize they were THAT port-limited. :eek: I'm wondering with all the recent focus from multiple lines if we'll end up seeing one of the three heading for China once the third one is launched. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRUISEFAN0001 Posted June 19, 2014 #66 Share Posted June 19, 2014 So then, those two ships have the least number of cruise ports available to them due to size, and in addition they don't go to any ports where they tender - either those where all cruise ships tender, or ones where they'd have to tender due to their size. Wow, didn't realize their ports of call & itineraries were THAT limited! Can't say I'll never cruise Oasis class for sure, but that would be another negative for me choosing one of them. And yet...our Allure cruise next year has all 6 of these port stops - all docked: Barcelona, Spain Palma de Mallorca, Spain Marseille. France La Spezia (Florence/Pisa), Italy Civitavecchia (Rome), Italy Naples (Capri), Italy There are plenty of ports for Allure/Oasis to dock. The choices in the Caribbean routes, however, are currently more limited - but that could change in the future beyond 2014 sometime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TravelerThom Posted June 19, 2014 #67 Share Posted June 19, 2014 Eastern is Nassau, St. Thomas, St. Maarten. Western is Labadee, Falmouth (constructed partially to accept Oasis class), Cozumel. Very limited; until they go back to Europe I don't think the big bruisers have gone anywhere else... Falmouth was maybe a year later than scheduled coming on-line. During that time Oasis went to Costa Maya Mexico (I was there). Many industrial ports can handle O-class, but often cities have nicer, closer cruise docks, and O-class can't get into these. Hong Kong and Singapore have already finished building new cruise ports capable of handling O-class (not sure where else). Build it and they will come. Thom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sat1 Posted June 19, 2014 #68 Share Posted June 19, 2014 NOS boat showing seats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Folk Singer Posted June 20, 2014 #69 Share Posted June 20, 2014 On Liberty last week the life jackets were in the cabin. they were in the cabin on the IOS as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bradtez Posted June 20, 2014 #70 Share Posted June 20, 2014 Don't forget the secret aircraft hangar under the aqua theatre that holds a fleet of bell choppers that can carry everybody off, while the crew can still serve you your cocktail of the day! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m*u*g* Posted June 20, 2014 #71 Share Posted June 20, 2014 No, you better pack an inflatable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desert Cruizers Posted June 20, 2014 #72 Share Posted June 20, 2014 While on the ROS this past March & April, we noticed the smaller yellow boat towing a yellow & looked to be inflatable bouy or whatever, does anyone know what that would have been. It never seemed to affect the lifeboats being lowered and was near the bow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TravelerThom Posted June 20, 2014 #73 Share Posted June 20, 2014 While on the ROS this past March & April, we noticed the smaller yellow boat towing a yellow & looked to be inflatable bouy or whatever, does anyone know what that would have been. It never seemed to affect the lifeboats being lowered and was near the bow.Not quite sure what you are discussing. There is a smaller, high speed rescue launch - is this the smaller yellow boat you are referring to? If so, I suspect that they were practicing towing a buoy to be grabbed by someone who is in the water. "Near the bow" makes me think of the bulbous bow (a fixed part of the ship protruding forward just under the waterline). When a ship is docked usually a pennant is lowed from the bow deck to near the waterline to call attention to the bulbous bow and reduce the chance of someone accidentally running into it. Do either of these seem to fit what you saw? Thom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desert Cruizers Posted June 20, 2014 #74 Share Posted June 20, 2014 Here is a photo, missed getting the entire line but it might help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desert Cruizers Posted June 20, 2014 #75 Share Posted June 20, 2014 Thom, that could have been it, they never seemed to finish what they were doing so your right, it could have been a rescue bouy drill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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