Norwegian Cruise Line Bans Smoking on Balconies

[Single Cruiser]

How will the no-smoking policy effect the October 27,2014 cruise for 11 days~~November 1st will be in the middle of me cruise!

 

I hadn't heard about a no smoking policy! :eek: Only that NCL had changed it's existing policy of restrictions on where one can smoke onboard!

 

:D

[KeithJenner]

To answer your question, the policy states it is for cruises commencing after that date, so if your cruise starts in October then the current rules will apply.

[triptolemus]

To answer your question, the policy states it is for cruises commencing after that date, so if your cruise starts in October then the current rules will apply.

 

No it doesn't! It doesn't say that at all! It says

 

for all sailings on or after November 1, 2014.

 

Interpret that however you want, but the new policy doesn't use the word "commencing" -- to me that means a sailing occurring on Nov 1 would be subject to the policy. But who knows... the reality is the roll-out will be a bit different ship to ship.

Edited July 16, 2014 by triptolemus

[KeithJenner]

No it doesn't! It doesn't say that at all! It says

 

 

 

Interpret that however you want, but the new policy doesn't use the word "commencing" -- to me that means a sailing occurring on Nov 1 would be subject to the policy.

 

You have a point, sorry.

 

I read it as saying that any cruise that starts on 1st November or after is covered by the new policy. Those that start in October don't. I acknowledge that my reading of it may be incorrect though.

[CI66774]

Princess at least allows e-cigs everywhere except MDR and show lounge. Think I will look into cruising with them next.

 

Actually, if any other Princess cruiser complains, then you CANNOT smoke an e-cig. Did it on Royal Princess when someone was smoking at next table and me and my 5 year-old daughter could smell it. Manager of restaurant politely told them to put it away - and they did.

[Bulldog3777]

You read it correctly. It has been clarified on this forum elsewhere.

[Linny13]

Our last cruise on the NCL Breakaway we were in a balcony cabin and there were smokers in the cabins on both sides of us:(.....even if I just wanted to open our door to get some fresh air in, I had to close it because we couldn't breathe from the smoke. I paid for a balcony that we could not enjoy. I think we sat there one time the entire cruise, because no one was home next door!!

[Bulldog3777]

Actually most ecigs utilize nicotine.

 

Not in mine. I use zero nicotine.

[DebJ14]

1st I wish there was a like button for some of the posts !

How many times has a ship actually had a fire from a cigarette ???

 

I read more about stupid acts that people ( usually alcohol related) do than I have ever read about a fire caused by a cigerette.

 

How many times has a drunk caused accidents on board (happens everytime we have been on a ship.) throwing up all over the place in public areas, disorderly, ??? I am going to guess the drunk situations are "over looked" because NCL is making money from those drinks. I have never seen a bar on a cruise ever cut off drinks to a passenger that clearly should have been on a cruise.

Hell they cant even enforce the rules they have and they are going to add to the list.

 

You can't be serious? Fire is the biggest danger at sea.

Tell that to the passengers on the Star Princess in 2006, especially the man who died and those who had to be treated for smoke inhalation.

http://www.nbcnews.com/id/11975460/ns/us_news-life/t/cigarette-eyed-cause-cruise-blaze/

[mianmike]

I see my post was deleted! :eek: I thought my post about second-hand bacon smell was hilarious; apparently me and the moderators don’t share the same sense of humor. :(

[S&S Cruisers 1983]

I am surprised this guy did not start a fire. He would smoke his pipe every evening and then dump the ashes, or whatever they are called, OVER THE SIDE (after looking real quick in both directions. He didn't look up though!). :eek:

[hftmrock]

You read it correctly. It has been clarified on this forum elsewhere.

 

2 people have 2 different interpretations and you say 'you' read it correctly... who is 'you' that you are referring to?

 

this is like someone asking do you like blue or yellow and you respond 'yes'

 

could you tell us which 'you' you are referring to

[triptolemus]

You can't be serious? Fire is the biggest danger at sea.

Tell that to the passengers on the Star Princess in 2006, especially the man who died and those who had to be treated for smoke inhalation.

http://www.nbcnews.com/id/11975460/ns/us_news-life/t/cigarette-eyed-cause-cruise-blaze/

 

Let's put that into some context...

 

A fire apparently started by a cigarette broke out aboard a giant cruise ship early Thursday as it sailed through the moonlit Caribbean, leaving one passenger dead, 11 people injured and at least 100 rooms scorched.

 

A smoldering cigarette is suspected as the cause of the blaze, said Horace Peterkin, president of the Jamaica Hotel and Tourist Association, who toured the ship after it docked here.

 

 

 

 

When people ask "how many fires have been caused by cigarettes," I have to ask, how many would be enough to warrant additional safety protocols?

[antsnanny]

Well if they enforce it...Smokers will sit at the penny machines playing 9 cents a spin while smoking. It pretty much guarantees any machines in the smoking section will be occupied.

 

 

Yikes ! I never thought of that.. The casino will become one big inside smoking lounge and it will cost smokers a lot less to play 9 cents a spin than the 250.00 clean up fee…

[cougaraz]

Is anyone really that surprised by this? I am sure there are lots of strong emotional responses, but from a logical, business perspective, this isn't much of a leap. Cruise lines exist for a single purpose, to make money. Those of us that enjoy cruising are the beneficiaries of their business activities and have a great time, but the companies aren't doing it out of the goodness of their hearts, they owe their shareholders a return.

 

With that in mind, consider that less than 20% of American adults smoke (CDC), which means that more than 80% of adults do not. Consider then where cruise lines should focus their efforts in terms of rules and regulations, to please less than 20% of adults or to please 80% of adults PLUS all the children not counted in the CDC's statistics.

 

I honestly don't care if you want to smoke, it is your life, your body and you are an adult. However, once it becomes a matter of me having to breathe it, it making my clothing smell, it making my room and balcony smell we have a problem. So far as I can manage, I endeavor to go through this world without having my behavior negatively impact anyone else, more so while traveling. This policy simply ensures that cruisers who chose to smoke will not negatively impact others, either by intent or the whimsy of the wind.

 

The trend of restrictions on smoking has been moving forward for quite some time and every step there have been predictions of dire economic consequences, first when restaurants banned it outright and then bars (in many states and countries), but it just hasn't materialized. The time when the only smoking area on ships is a small outdoor area is coming and quickly. There will be many smokers who will be upset and choose not to cruise as a result, but it is a numbers game for cruise lines and decreasing numbers of smokers, increasing public restrictions elsewhere and a general trend toward smoke free environments across the board will be coming to sea in the near future.

 

Again, I harbor no ill will toward smokers, most are fine upstanding citizens, they pay their fare and want to have a great cruise, but it is a numbers game for a business and as they are fewer and fewer smokers, there will be fewer and fewer areas aboard ship where they are permitted to smoke.

[antsnanny]

Let's put that into some context...

 

 

 

When people ask "how many fires have been caused by cigarettes," I have to ask, how many would be enough to warrant additional safety protocols?

 

 

In addition, they did away with the plastic dividers that caused it to spread so fast and all that black smoke.

[garycarla]

How will the no-smoking policy effect the October 27,2014 cruise for 11 days~~November 1st will be in the middle of me cruise!

 

There are many threads about this with this topic going back and forth - date. Open to people and what they think it means.

 

In any event, it is a change in policy and not a NO SMOKING policy.

[EyeSeaEwe]

Come on people, really we are going to start up a debate on THIS? Sailing means the date a cruise starts. Thats cut and dried and not open to anything. This is really getting to the point of absurdity very quickly.

[JuneauWhatIMean]

Come on people, really we are going to start up a debate on THIS? Sailing means the date a cruise starts. Thats cut and dried and not open to anything. This is really getting to the point of absurdity very quickly.

 

:rolleyes::D:rolleyes:~This~:rolleyes::D:rolleyes:

[Charles4515]

Yikes ! I never thought of that.. The casino will become one big inside smoking lounge and it will cost smokers a lot less to play 9 cents a spin than the 250.00 clean up fee…

 

If the casino becomes one big inside smoking lounge then the next step will be banning smoking in the casino. That is what happened on Celebrity. I suggest that smokers resist abusing the rule about playing.

[hawkeyetlse]

Princess at least allows e-cigs everywhere except MDR and show lounge.

That used to be true, but the policy has changed, apparently very recently. Now they are only allowed in designated smoking areas and within your stateroom (not on the balcony). See their Onboard Experience FAQ:

Electronic Cigarettes

The use of electronic cigarettes is allowed within the confines of the passenger's stateroom (balcony not included) and within designated smoking areas only.

Edited July 17, 2014 by hawkeyetlse

[jame_g]

Non-smoker. I think this is a very bad idea. For those that think it's a good idea, just remember that your legal freedoms will be next on the list of things to be banned. Once the door is open, it's hard to shut. Oh, and as an example, your employers are already well on the way to trying to control what you eat, how much you weigh, and how active you need to be. What will be next?

Edited July 17, 2014 by jame_g

[swedish weave]

Yikes ! I never thought of that.. The casino will become one big inside smoking lounge and it will cost smokers a lot less to play 9 cents a spin than the 250.00 clean up fee…

 

Do you think NCL may make the five dollar machines the smoking section ?

[paulsurf]

That used to be true, but the policy has changed, apparently very recently. Now they are only allowed in designated smoking areas and within your stateroom (not on the balcony). See their Onboard Experience FAQ:

 

Now that's a novel idea from Princess Cruise Lines.....OK to smoke ecigs in your stateroom

[swedish weave]

Non-smoker. I think this is a very bad idea. For those that think it's a good idea, just remember that your legal freedoms will be next on the list of things to be banned. Once the door is open, it's hard to shut. Oh, and as an example, your employers are already well on the way to trying to control what you eat, how much you weigh, and how active you need to be. What will be next?

 

There is a simple solution to that weight problem. The employers could either fire an employee who violates the restrictions, or they could make them pay for their own insurance. They aren't making the rules to be mean, they are just attempting to control expenses.

 

Obesity is a major problem and major expense. These controls could force some people to adapt a healthier lifestyle.

Edited July 17, 2014 by swedish weave