MawganTr Posted August 22, 2015 #1 Share Posted August 22, 2015 We are back today from a fabulous trip on Azura to the Fjords. In Geiranger we had to use the tenders - quite a big operation for the crew I would imagine. It was literally one minute on the tender to shore. The sea walk though was in the port when we were last there 2 years ago but not used and again this year, unused. Is there a reason for this? It would surely be so much easier for passengers to walk off the ship? Nevertheless, a most beautiful port! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrianI Posted August 22, 2015 #2 Share Posted August 22, 2015 As I understand it, Carnival refused to contribute to the cost of the sea walk so Caranival ships are not allowed to use it. Brian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kruzseeka Posted August 22, 2015 #3 Share Posted August 22, 2015 (edited) As I understand it, Carnival refused to contribute to the cost of the sea walk so Caranival ships are not allowed to use it.Brian Have actually seen one of the Cunard ships on the Geiranger webcam using the seawalk. Our upcomong trip on QE was originally down as a tender port (there was a Celebrity ship in - they always use it - perhaps they did contribute!) but our itinerary has been switched round and we are no longer due to tender there - there are no other ships in and in the absence of an advertised tender operation I am assuming we will use it. (I'll let you know if I'm wrong when we get back.) We used it with Celebrity and it is so convenient. Perhaps it's a cost issue. Clearly if more than one ship is in, there could be issues of prior claim if a company has an interest in the sea walk otherwise is it who is prepared to pay the most? But if you look at the webcams often ships are in the Fjord with no-one using the sea walk so there has to be some reason behind that. Not that it would be appropriate here as they now have the sea walk - but this is an interesting concept! http://www.cayman27.com.ky/2015/08/21/cable-cars-replace-tenders-in-new-cruise-port-idea Just found this: https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=geiranger+sea+walk&tbm=isch&imgil=f91oOY5EGdSBdM%253A%253Br7dRBTA9gaJOLM%253Bhttp%25253A%25252F%25252Fwww.captaingreybeard.com%25252F2013%25252F03%25252Fseawalk-pier-for-geiranger.html&source=iu&pf=m&fir=f91oOY5EGdSBdM%253A%252Cr7dRBTA9gaJOLM%252C_&biw=1280&bih=619&usg=__q6W5rcc81Zd3-bV8YkCqBPpRhhA%3D&ved=0CDIQyjdqFQoTCNTo8NOxvMcCFVIX2wod4jAEKA&ei=WkLYVdTTKdKu7Abi4ZDAAg#imgrc=f91oOY5EGdSBdM%3A&usg=__q6W5rcc81Zd3-bV8YkCqBPpRhhA%3D Edited August 22, 2015 by kruzseeka Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeholiday2 Posted August 22, 2015 #4 Share Posted August 22, 2015 The port authority charge extra for using the seawalk. 1.30NOK per ton, and 17200NOK mooring fee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thejuggler Posted August 22, 2015 #5 Share Posted August 22, 2015 We used it on a Celebrity Cruise. Made the shore vosit much better as it was absolutely throwing it down. Being able to nip back to ship quickly to avoid the worse of it made it worthwhile. P&O obviously have a company policy not to pay the fee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinyork Posted August 22, 2015 #6 Share Posted August 22, 2015 Here is the seawalk seen from Celebrity Eclipse last month. Ive also read that due to cost some lines wont pay the fee. It is soooo convenient though. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hasthagotnowtmoist Posted August 22, 2015 #7 Share Posted August 22, 2015 Is it tragic to say I enjoy the novelty of using tenders. (!!!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daiB Posted August 22, 2015 #8 Share Posted August 22, 2015 We used it on a Celebrity Cruise. Made the shore vosit much better as it was absolutely throwing it down. Being able to nip back to ship quickly to avoid the worse of it made it worthwhile. P&O obviously have a company policy not to pay the fee. I looked at the webcam for this port all last year and I did not see ones hip use the dock apart from Celebrity and ships of the same company. The other non Carnival ships did not use it either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kruzseeka Posted August 23, 2015 #9 Share Posted August 23, 2015 I looked at the webcam for this port all last year and I did not see ones hip use the dock apart from Celebrity and ships of the same company. The other non Carnival ships did not use it either. According to this website (go to cruise calls) have non-RCCL cruise ships using the sea walk including Fred Olsen and Costa (Carnival). www.stranda-hamnevesen.no/cruise-calls and the link in post #3 does appear to have the Queen Elizabeth connected to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mysticalmother Posted August 23, 2015 #10 Share Posted August 23, 2015 (edited) Is it tragic to say I enjoy the novelty of using tenders. (!!!) Definately not! I love the tenders too, especially if there's a few waves around!:) But to be fair, the seawalk looks as if it would help those in wheelchairs to at least get ashore. Edited August 23, 2015 by Mysticalmother Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kruzseeka Posted August 30, 2015 #11 Share Posted August 30, 2015 Well, not able to confirm that the QE uses the sea walk - just returned but we weren't the only ship in Geiranger and the Serenade of the Seas was using it - predictable once we realised she was in port (RCCL). So we did have to tender. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Solent Richard Posted August 31, 2015 #12 Share Posted August 31, 2015 (edited) We are back today from a fabulous trip on Azura to the Fjords. In Geiranger we had to use the tenders - quite a big operation for the crew I would imagine. It was literally one minute on the tender to shore. The sea walk though was in the port when we were last there 2 years ago but not used and again this year, unused. Is there a reason for this? It would surely be so much easier for passengers to walk off the ship? Nevertheless, a most beautiful port! Yes, but not with P&O. We were on Celebrity Infinity and it was a great way to 'walk' ashore... It certainly made the visit to Geiranger more attractive.... http://solentrichardscruiseblog.com/2014/07/16/one-way-to-do-geiranger-fjord/ Edited August 31, 2015 by Solent Richard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kruzseeka Posted August 31, 2015 #13 Share Posted August 31, 2015 Yes, but not with P&O. We were on Celebrity Infinity and it was a great way to 'walk' ashore... It certainly made the visit to Geiranger more attractive.... http://solentrichardscruiseblog.com/2014/07/16/one-way-to-do-geiranger-fjord/ I really enjoyed reading your blog. We were on that trip too - what a day! Glorious weather and the 360° by the Seven Sisters - just fabulous and unforgettable. One interesting development in Geiranger this year is the availability of self drive electric cars which can be hired for varying lengths of time to access different viwepoints. I would find them a bit scary as they are very small and very close to the ground (all those hair pins!) but we saw several in use and they do offer another means of getting about for those who might be interested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete14 Posted August 31, 2015 #14 Share Posted August 31, 2015 I have to say that it is an eyesore ruining one of the most beautiful places I have been to. It may help passengers to go ashore but I think that aesthetically, it is a price too high to pay. I know a few are unable to use tenders comfortably but presumably some are unable to walk the distance comfortably either. I applaud P & O for their apparent reluctance to use it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinyork Posted August 31, 2015 #15 Share Posted August 31, 2015 I have to say that it is an eyesore ruining one of the most beautiful places I have been to. It may help passengers to go ashore but I think that aesthetically, it is a price too high to pay. I know a few are unable to use tenders comfortably but presumably some are unable to walk the distance comfortably either. I applaud P & O for their apparent reluctance to use it. I dont see it as an eyesore at all. And enviromentally its way less damaging than hundreds of tenders going back and forth. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nannyviv Posted September 1, 2015 #16 Share Posted September 1, 2015 Definately not! I love the tenders too, especially if there's a few waves around!:) But to be fair, the seawalk looks as if it would help those in wheelchairs to at least get ashore. Yes but for those not in wheelchairs but with problems walking any distance it looks like a long walk before you even get started on your shore visit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thejuggler Posted September 2, 2015 #17 Share Posted September 2, 2015 It is no further than the numerous ports where you need to walk to exit the dock gates to reach the main centre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davecttr Posted September 2, 2015 #18 Share Posted September 2, 2015 It is not an eyesore, especially when not deployed where it just looks like part of the dock. That means the whole of the winter :) Safer than tenders as well but the P&O risk assesors (bean counters) are probably hoping nobody will drown during tendering for a few more years, or at least until their xmas bonuses are safely in their bank accounts :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daiB Posted September 2, 2015 #19 Share Posted September 2, 2015 (edited) It is not an eyesore, especially when not deployed where it just looks like part of the dock. That means the whole of the winter :) Safer than tenders as well but the P&O risk assesors (bean counters) are probably hoping nobody will drown during tendering for a few more years, or at least until their xmas bonuses are safely in their bank accounts :rolleyes: Well these two have the same bean counters then Princess and Holland America. And MSC don't use it or any of the smaller lines. Edited September 2, 2015 by daiB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davecttr Posted September 2, 2015 #20 Share Posted September 2, 2015 [ATTACH]361232[/ATTACH] Well these two have the same bean counters then Princess and Holland America. And MSC don't use it or any of the smaller lines. Yes, because it is more expensive to use than tendering but safer :rolleyes: how does it go? about 40 years ago some 90% of corporate profits were reinvested in the companies and the shareholders got 10%. Today some 60-70% goes to the shareholders and the remainder is reinvested. The world is becoming obsessed with quick profits. :mad: Maybe the corporate bean counters are looking to the future and the possibility of the mountain falling into the fjord, in which case there won't be a Geiranger anymore :eek::eek::eek: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daiB Posted September 2, 2015 #21 Share Posted September 2, 2015 Yes, because it is more expensive to use than tendering but safer :rolleyes: how does it go? about 40 years ago some 90% of corporate profits were reinvested in the companies and the shareholders got 10%. Today some 60-70% goes to the shareholders and the remainder is reinvested. The world is becoming obsessed with quick profits. :mad: Maybe the corporate bean counters are looking to the future and the possibility of the mountain falling into the fjord, in which case there won't be a Geiranger anymore :eek::eek::eek: And maybe because it was part paid for by RCI they have a deal on it and there are local politics involved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davecttr Posted September 2, 2015 #22 Share Posted September 2, 2015 And maybe because it was part paid for by RCI they have a deal on it and there are local politics involved. Politics! - :eek::eek::eek: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daiB Posted September 2, 2015 #23 Share Posted September 2, 2015 Politics! - :eek::eek::eek: Metz Dave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davecttr Posted September 2, 2015 #24 Share Posted September 2, 2015 Metz Dave. Moritz Dai Moritz ! :):):) ;) ps - Dai will explain the famous 'Moritz' incident on Oceana :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daiB Posted September 2, 2015 #25 Share Posted September 2, 2015 (edited) Moritz DaiMoritz ! :):):) ps - Dai will explain the famous 'Moritz' incident on Oceana :D No he won't. :) Anyway they both start with a M. :) Edited September 2, 2015 by daiB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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