Federal grand jury summons

[NuclearLava33]

I'm pretty sure they will allow you to go on your cruise, if you let them know, It happened to my buddy, and we got to go on a cruise.

 

Just be sure to let them know unless you want the police to be at the port ready to escort you to J-A-I-L..

 

Cruises I've Done:

 

NCL Escape - 6/11/16 [inaugural season woo]

NCL Gem - 6/7/15 [the apple was big]

Golden Princess - 6/7/14 [the fries are too good]

RCCL Enchantment - 8/19/13 [2old4me]

DCL Dream - 12/11/11 [too many mickey Christmas trees

[goingplaces1132]

Can you tell them you have some sort of medical issue that would be real like back or hip pain? I can't sit long due to hip pain and was excused. My mom takes a water pill and uses the bathroom frequently she was excused as well

[sail7seas]

Mail with proper postageatached sent in U.SPS, is assumed delivered What Judge is likely to NOT bedlieve the jury notificatfion agveny when they stagte to the Court they attgached proprer postage on the Jury Summons?

Edited June 26, 2016 by sail7seas

[sail7seas]

Happy for your Good news. Op. have a great cruise.

[blizzardboy]

Just my luck. I haven't been called for any jury duty for over 20 years. Received federal summons to report for jury duty on the day we leave for our RCCL Alaskan cruise. I put in my request for postponement two weeks ago and still haven't heard back. Needless to say I'm not showing up, I'm going to Alaska. I don't mind doing my civic duty but just not in July. I hope I hear something soon. Anyone have any experience with postponements.

 

They won't send the US Marshals after you if you've reply to the summons. Even if you didn't reply, odds are they wouldn't hassle you. I've always reported when I could, as my mind set is "Would I want to be tried by a jury of my peers, or a jury made up of people too stupid to get out of it?"

Go in peace and enjoy your cruise!

[sail7seas]

They won't send the US Marshals after you if you've reply to the summons. Even if you didn't reply, odds are they wouldn't hassle you. I've always reported when I could, as my mind set is "Would I want to be tried by a jury of my peers, or a jury made up of people too stupid to get out of it?"

Go in peace and enjoy your cruise!

 

Is this the sort of circumstance a bench warrant could issue?

[blizzardboy]

Is this the sort of circumstance a bench warrant could issue?

 

Technically yes, but the court doesn't have the time or inclination to chase every no-show. Any federal warrant brings the Marshals into play. The OP responded to the summons so it should be no problem. Typically they put respondents back on a short list for future jury duty.

[pkay414]

The chances of the marshalls coming after you are slim, but let me just state again that disregarding jury service might not seem like a big deal but it is. As I've previously mentioned, I work in a state court -- not federal -- and I can remember times where we "busted the panel" -- meaning my Judge had to declare a mistrial -- because not enough potential jurors showed up for us to be able to finish the jury selection process. We don't always know exactly what kind of case will actually going to trial when the notices are sent out; and as you can imagine, if you get an emotionally-charged case (sexual assault, cases involving children, family violence...) the number of people who legitimately cannot sit on those kind of juries increases. If not enough people are present for us to get a jury, it's a HUGE waste of money and people's times.

 

So please remember that it's not only you that it's affecting if you just decide not to show up for jury service. And remember, everyone is entitled to a jury of their peers to decide their fate. If you're one that doesn't see jury service as a right and privilege better hope they're not in the litigants'/defendant's seat one day.

 

Okay. Off my soap box. Have a good day :-)

[blizzardboy]

The chances of the marshalls coming after you are slim, but let me just state again that disregarding jury service might not seem like a big deal but it is. As I've previously mentioned, I work in a state court -- not federal -- and I can remember times where we "busted the panel" -- meaning my Judge had to declare a mistrial -- because not enough potential jurors showed up for us to be able to finish the jury selection process. We don't always know exactly what kind of case will actually going to trial when the notices are sent out; and as you can imagine, if you get an emotionally-charged case (sexual assault, cases involving children, family violence...) the number of people who legitimately cannot sit on those kind of juries increases. If not enough people are present for us to get a jury, it's a HUGE waste of money and people's times.

 

So please remember that it's not only you that it's affecting if you just decide not to show up for jury service. And remember, everyone is entitled to a jury of their peers to decide their fate. If you're one that doesn't see jury service as a right and privilege better hope they're not in the litigants'/defendant's seat one day.

 

Okay. Off my soap box. Have a good day :-)

Your points are all valid. I would point out that the OP stated they had responded requesting they be excused until a later date. If being a juror causes undo financial hardship, as losing your deposit or more if after final payment would be, the juror should be excused.

A quote from one of my earlier posts, " I've always reported when I could, as my mind set is "Would I want to be tried by a jury of my peers, or a jury made up of people too stupid to get out of it?"

Edited June 28, 2016 by blizzardboy

[pkay414]

Your points are all valid. I would point out that the OP stated they had responded requesting they be excused until a later date. If being a juror causes undo financial hardship, as losing your deposit or more if after final payment would be, the juror should be excused.

A quote from one of my earlier posts, " I've always reported when I could, as my mind set is "Would I want to be tried by a jury of my peers, or a jury made up of people too stupid to get out of it?"

 

Understood -- and I wasn't addressing the OP. I was responding to the sentiment that it was unlikely that any law enforcement officer would come looking for someone who ditched jury service.

[sail7seas]

Your points are all valid. I would point out that the OP stated they had responded requesting they be excused until a later date. If being a juror causes undo financial hardship, as losing your deposit or more if after final payment would be, the juror should be excused. My question a a bout bench warrant was huypothetidcal in that IF, IF, the OP iggnored the summons which we now know OP did not do.

A quote from one of my earlier posts, " I've always reported when I could, as my mind set is "Would I want to be tried by a jury of my peers, or a jury made up of people too stupid to get out of it?"

I have a problem with 'too stupid' to gge outt ougt of it. :eek: Ho w ab out responsibvle and honest?

 

 

 

Self employed people, professionals with a solo practice lose much money every day gthey go for jury serrvice and their business suffers. Hoawever, they are not excused because of business hardship and loss of money.

Edited June 28, 2016 by sail7seas

[blizzardboy]

I have a problem with 'too stupid' to gge outt ougt of it. :eek: Ho w ab out responsibvle and honest?

 

 

 

Self employed people, professionals with a solo practice lose much money every day gthey go for jury serrvice and their business suffers. Hoawever, they are not excused because of usiness hardship and loss of money.

 

Quote from the US Courts website: Excuses from Jury Service

 

"Each of the 94 federal district courts maintains its own jury procedures and policies regarding excuses from jury service. Many courts offer excuses from service, on individual request, to designated groups of persons or occupational classes. Such groups may include persons over age 70; persons who have, within the past two years, served on a federal jury; and persons who serve as volunteer fire fighters or members of a rescue squad or ambulance crew.

 

The Jury Act also allows courts to excuse a juror from service at the time he or she is summoned on the grounds of "undue hardship or extreme inconvenience." The juror should write a letter to the clerk of court requesting an excuse with an explanation of hardship.

 

Excuses for jurors are granted at the discretion of the court and cannot be reviewed or appealed to Congress or any other entity."

Edited June 28, 2016 by blizzardboy

[trish1c]

GOOD NEWS!!!!!!! I got a call and am postponed until September. Waiting for the official email but now I can focus on getting ready for Alaska. Than you everyone for your input and support.

 

Glad it worked out! Bon Voyage.

[Bill S]

Which is way beyond ridiculous.

 

I would also bet dollars to donuts it would be unconstitutional.

 

 

 

Well, until the US Supreme Court rules that the existing legal standard, specifically: "items placed with USPS are presumed to be delivered", is unconstitutional, you will lose that bet.

 

It is the presumption, and should you ever have to go before a judge and tell him or her that the presumption is ridiculous, you likely will not like enjoy their response.

[blizzardboy]

I have a problem with 'too stupid' to gge outt ougt of it. :eek: Ho w ab out responsibvle and honest?

 

You seemed to have missed the part about me "always reporting because I'd want to be judged by my peers." If everybody as smart as you or I used those smarts to figure out how not to appear, what would you be left with? I won't repeat it since it bothers you. I made that remark several years ago in response to a guy bragging about always getting out of serving.

Edited June 28, 2016 by blizzardboy

[JVilleGal]

I missed my jury duty and didn't even know if until my neighbor who gets my mail when we are gone brought the mail. Gone 5 weeks and this notice must have come the day we left.

Nothing happened, I called, they thanked me for calling no letting them know and I would be rescheduled for future service.

No nasty letters, no federal marshals.

 

This happened last fall and I have yet to be rescheduled!

 

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Edited June 28, 2016 by JVilleGal

[sail7seas]

Quote from the US Courts website: Excuses from Jury Service

 

"Each of the 94 federal district courts maintains its own jury procedures and policies regarding excuses from jury service. Many courts offer excuses from service, on individual request, to designated groups of persons or occupational classes. Such groups may include persons over age 70; persons who have, within the past two years, served on a federal jury; and persons who serve as volunteer fire fighters or members of a rescue squad or ambulance crew.

 

The Jury Act also allows courts to excuse a juror from service at the time he or she is summoned on the grounds of "undue hardship or extreme inconvenience." The juror should write a letter to the clerk of court requesting an excuse with an explanation of hardship.

 

Excuses for jurors are granted at the discretion of the court and cannot be reviewed or appealed to Congress or any other entity."

 

 

As you point out, excusal is discretionary and up to the couirt.I know solo pradtioners who were requiredto show up to State court.

Edited June 28, 2016 by sail7seas

[GeezerCouple]

As you point out, excusal is discretionary and up to the couirt.I know solo pradtioners who were requiredto show up to State court.

 

That is *very* different from someone unable to report for a jury POOL.

Unless the court requested far too few prospective jurors, that wouldn't stop a trial in its tracks.

 

If the only attorney for one side didn't appear... *very* different.

[LadyBeBop]

Well, until the US Supreme Court rules that the existing legal standard, specifically: "items placed with USPS are presumed to be delivered", is unconstitutional, you will lose that bet.

 

It is the presumption, and should you ever have to go before a judge and tell him or her that the presumption is ridiculous, you likely will not like enjoy their response.

 

Yet, mail is misdirected all the time.

 

Once,we had a book of checks sent to a house a block away. Fortunately, the owners were honest and called immediately. I shudder to think if they were not honest.

 

I'm waiting for something necessary for work. It was supposively shipped a month and a half ago, but I never received it. I said I never received it, so they said they reshipped it and that I would receive it within seven days.

 

That was three weeks ago.

 

Some people will take innocent looking misdirected mail and toss it rather than tracking down the rightful owner. Being a government employee,

I'm not going to ignore jury duty. However, I'm fighting it if I'm arrested for missing jury duty just because our part time postal carrier sticks the summons in the wrong box.

Edited June 29, 2016 by LadyBeBop

[GoVikes]

If the world is lucky one day you will get to spend time in jail for perjury, because under US law if an item is placed in the US mail and sent to your address you are deemed to have received it, whether you actually got it or not.

 

That is ridiculous! Our mail get misdelivered constantly--same house number on next street over. I have also had my address fraudulently changed twice by identity thiefs. I can't believe the assumption is that you received any mail just because it was posted.

[ducklite]

Don't count on it brother. I thought I was too. The court clerk almost fell out of his chair when he read my occupation on the jury pool list. I sent in my jury response with my occupation as the reason for the waiver but it was denied. Thankfully, Rhode Island went to a two day system where if you're not called after two days you go home. Under the old system, I would've sat there for two weeks. What defense attorney would allow a cop on their jury?

Welcome to Rhode island. :rolleyes:

 

 

It would depend on the case. There are some forms of criminal law prosecution that are never touched by the local police but are entirely investigated by the State or Federal attorney's office, and their investigators are the ones who make the arrest.

[Big_G]

It would depend on the case. There are some forms of criminal law prosecution that are never touched by the local police but are entirely investigated by the State or Federal attorney's office, and their investigators are the ones who make the arrest.

Jurisdiction matters not. No competent defense attorney is going to allow a cop on a jury.

 

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[broberts]

Almost posted this myself but didn't.

Very True!

When they are sent by regular mail, there is no proof that you ever received it. ;)

 

One would have to commit perjury to make such a claim had the mail in fact been received. Does not strike me as a wise course of action given the other legitimate avenues available for dealing with a jury summons.

[ducklite]

Jurisdiction matters not. No competent defense attorney is going to allow a cop on a jury.

 

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I know several police officers who have served on juries. I would rather have a police officer than a brain surgeon on a medical mal jury for example.

[payitforward]

Jurisdiction matters not. No competent defense attorney is going to allow a cop on a jury.

 

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I used to think the same thing. Imagine my surprise when, after disclosing that I worked for a local Sheriff's Department, they selected me anyway. :(