No Children Cruises

[navybankerteacher]

I have no "strong feelings" about sailing with, or without, SOME children -either way- but I would have concerns about sailing with a group of people who cannot tolerate ANY children - which appears to be OP's condition.

 

It seems that most cruise lines also feel that such an attitude is not really normal - otherwise they would cater to that market by advertising KINDER VERBOTEN sailings.

[Strophic]

I have no "strong feelings" about sailing with, or without, SOME children -either way- but I would have concerns about sailing with a group of people who cannot tolerate ANY children

 

 

Why?

 

 

Seriously, why?

 

 

There are plenty of adults-only resorts and land-based vacations, so why is that okay but wanting an adults-only cruise isn't?

 

 

Personally, I don't need a cruise that's 0% kids as long as there aren't a ton of them. But if a cruise advertised itself as adults-only, I'd think that was pretty awesome and I'd certainly be interested. Given the option, I'd rather have a no-kids vacation. I don't see what's so awful about that—it's not like I am asking for children to be wiped off the face of the earth.

[Cuizer2]

Why?

 

 

Seriously, why?

 

 

There are plenty of adults-only resorts and land-based vacations, so why is that okay but wanting an adults-only cruise isn't?

 

 

Personally, I don't need a cruise that's 0% kids as long as there aren't a ton of them. But if a cruise advertised itself as adults-only, I'd think that was pretty awesome and I'd certainly be interested. Given the option, I'd rather have a no-kids vacation. I don't see what's so awful about that—it's not like I am asking for children to be wiped off the face of the earth.

 

First of all, there are adult only cruises. They just are not main stream lines such as Disney, Royal Caribbean, NCL, Carnival, Princess, HAL, or Celebrity. Cruise Critic did an article on adult only cruises ...

https://www.cruisecritic.com/articles.cfm?ID=1460

 

Second, it doesn't matter how many children are on the cruise, as long as they are not near you. Many ships offer adult only areas where young children are not allowed. Whether or not that is enforced is a different matter.

 

 

Third, you have no right to complain about the number of kids on board if you are on a cruise that allows children. That is the same as getting a speeding ticket for going 34 in a 35 zone. If a cruise that has mostly adults most of the time is allowing children on the cruise, and for one reason or another 200 children under the age of sixteen are booked - too bad. You should have book a cruise designated adults only (see "First of all" above).

 

 

Fourth, I don't look for adult only cruises, I've only been on NCL, Carnival, Royal Caribbean, and Princess. However, a few times I have found myself on cruises where there were few children and they were hard to find. And I would rather put up with noisy kids than drunk adults (even the more or less well behaved drunk adult I ended up having dinner with one night).

[Strophic]

But you're responding to completely different claims than the ones that were actually made.

 

I asked "what is wrong with people who would want an adults-only cruise?" and you. replied instead to the imaginary question "what is wrong with people who go on a kids cruise and then complain about kids?" Which...no one asked that, so I'm not sure what you're talking about here.

 

Anyway.

 

Second, it doesn't matter how many children are on the cruise, as long as they are not near you. Many ships offer adult only areas where young children are not allowed. Whether or not that is enforced is a different matter.

 

 

That might be your opinion, but I disagree. For one thing, if there are a bunch of kids on a cruise, them "not being near you" isn't a situation that's going to happen unless you sequester yourself to the casino and 18+ pool deck for your whole vacation. So that's an unrealistic prospect from the get-go.

 

 

You might like having kids around. That's fine! Other people don't. You say you prefer kids over drunk adults. Other people would rather deal with drunk adults than kids. And you seem to think that anyone who has a different opinion than you is objectively wrong and needs to be pitied. I just think it's not out of the question that a mainstream/budget cruise line like RCL/Carnival/NCL could have the occasional adults-only sailing and still have the majority of their sailings allow kids. It doesn't have to be black and white, it would just be nice to have the option. And it wouldn't have any effect on you, so why aren't you okay with other people wanting that?

[bizzyswife]

I dont think there is a such thing as a no children cruise, although that would be great. But kids are very occupied during a cruise, so you will be able to enjoy any cruise.

[lisiamc]

I dont think there is a such thing as a no children cruise, although that would be great. But kids are very occupied during a cruise, so you will be able to enjoy any cruise.

There are child-free cruises. Quite a few answers were given previously in this thread.

[calliopecruiser]

 

And, "a happy bunch of people". who "are neither self-absorbed or child-haters" would not bother to even notice a few children. Having to be in an adult-only cocoon is an unfortunate condition, for the affliction with which I pity you.

 

Oh, please, save your pity for those who deserve it. Not wanting to be around children for a week or two is no more pitiful than not wanting to be around electronic dance music or not wanting to be around sweet deserts, etc. It's a choice regarding things we like or don't like. If I want a cocoon to keep out house music or scantily-clad people, that's a reasonable choice.....so why is not wanting to be around children any different? Sometimes it's to take a vacation from something we like but need a temporary change, and sometimes it's to take a vacation from something we don't like. Either way, it's hardly pitiful.

[Cuizer2]

But you're responding to completely different claims than the ones that were actually made.

 

I asked "what is wrong with people who would want an adults-only cruise?" and you. replied instead to the imaginary question "what is wrong with people who go on a kids cruise and then complain about kids?" Which...no one asked that, so I'm not sure what you're talking about here.

 

If the ship allows children, then don't complain when there are children.

 

 

Anyway.

 

 

 

 

That might be your opinion, but I disagree. For one thing, if there are a bunch of kids on a cruise, them "not being near you" isn't a situation that's going to happen unless you sequester yourself to the casino and 18+ pool deck for your whole vacation. So that's an unrealistic prospect from the get-go.

 

 

There are adult only pools, there are adult only "serenity" areas. If the ship is not enforcing its own rules, that is a different issue.

[Strophic]

Cuizer2, if you are only going to respond to the made-up conversation happening inside your head instead of the one that's actually happening on this thread then I don't know what to tell you.

[Cuizer2]

Cuizer2, if you are only going to respond to the made-up conversation happening inside your head instead of the one that's actually happening on this thread then I don't know what to tell you.

 

Have you read the entire thread???

 

 

There are people complaining that parents should not book cruises with their kids on ships that cater to adults. I'm saying that if you book a cruise on a ship that allows kids, don't complain if there are kids. Go find an adult only cruise.

[Strophic]

Except for the part where you specifically quoted my post to respond do, didn't address anything I actually said, and only made responses to comments that are over a year old. You completely dodged all of my questions and just spouted irrelevant comments.

[Travelcat2]

First of all, there are adult only cruises. They just are not main stream lines such as Disney, Royal Caribbean, NCL, Carnival, Princess, HAL, or Celebrity. Cruise Critic did an article on adult only cruises ...

https://www.cruisecritic.com/articles.cfm?ID=1460

 

Second, it doesn't matter how many children are on the cruise, as long as they are not near you. Many ships offer adult only areas where young children are not allowed. Whether or not that is enforced is a different matter.

 

 

Third, you have no right to complain about the number of kids on board if you are on a cruise that allows children. That is the same as getting a speeding ticket for going 34 in a 35 zone. If a cruise that has mostly adults most of the time is allowing children on the cruise, and for one reason or another 200 children under the age of sixteen are booked - too bad. You should have book a cruise designated adults only (see "First of all" above).

 

 

Fourth, I don't look for adult only cruises, I've only been on NCL, Carnival, Royal Caribbean, and Princess. However, a few times I have found myself on cruises where there were few children and they were hard to find. And I would rather put up with noisy kids than drunk adults (even the more or less well behaved drunk adult I ended up having dinner with one night).

 

I don't have a first, second, third and forth but do want to remind you that the TS is looking for a cruise line that is for adults so they obviously would not be looking at the cruise Iines that you mentioned.

 

Also, please don't compare children and drunk adults. Cruise lines can deal with adults ....... they can be sent to their cabin and kept there. There are numerous remedies for bad adult behavior. But "hell hath no fury as a parent that has been told that their child(res) are behaving badly).

 

Really hoping that people will answer the TS's question rather than rant about people that prefer sailing in an more mature environment ("mature" meaning adults - not age).

 

Strophic, thank you for your on-topic posts and observations!

 

calliopecruiser: Your points are right on as well!

 

Whew - what does it take to keep a thread on track?

Edited August 10, 2017 by Travelcat2

[Cuizer2]

Also, please don't compare children and drunk adults. Cruise lines can deal with adults ....... they can be sent to their cabin and kept there. There are numerous remedies for bad adult behavior. But "hell hath no fury as a parent that has been told that their child(res) are behaving badly).

 

Well, that would explain all the families that have been kicked off the ship early because of the behavior of their children.

[DCLCrazy]

Have you considered a river cruise? Usually those rooms are only for 2 people so it would be hard for a family. They're not cheap, though, I warn you.

 

 

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[Travelcat2]

As has been mentioned, Viking Ocean does not allow children under the age of 16 (I believe this age is correct). Luxury and premium plus cruise lines have very few children and have no special facilities for them (except during the summer). While we do cruise these lines I'm sure that some people would appreciate a lower priced alternative.

 

I understand that Carnival tried it unsuccessfully several years ago. IMO, with large ships, having a certain number of child-free cruises each year would be extremely successful. There are issues to consider. Adults do not necessarily want party cruises.

 

Ideally one ship in the mainstream and premium categories having 2-3 cruises per year (or even one as a test) would end up with a full ship.

 

In the meantime, there are few choices for those of us that appreciate child-free cruising:(

[Cyber Kat]

Go find an adult only cruise.

 

 

Which is precisely what the OP is trying to do! That seems to have gotten lost in the brouhaha.

 

He or she didn't ask for pity. Didn't ask to sail on a child friendly line and expect them to remove all children from the ship. The OP did not specify that the ship be a mainstream line.

 

The OP wasn't asking for a nudist cruise or to sail with swingers. He/she never mentioned why they wanted no children on the cruise. It was a simple request that some have read all sorts of things into, or have determined that the OP hates children and must be a miserable person.

 

Why is it so difficult to answer a simple question without constructing a mountain out of the proverbial molehill?

 

Seems to me that many are defending their position on their high horses when there is no attack even on the horizon.

 

To get back to the question at hand, you can find a cruise with no children. It won't be all that easy and you may have to settle, instead, for a cruise with a few children.

 

There are options and most have been pointed out - sail when a majority children are in school, choose a longer cruise where there is less likely to have parents with children along, select a TA (which meets the other 2 criteria), wait for the occasional adults only cruise on a mainstream line, or be prepared to pay more for a higher end line that, because of the price, precludes the average parent with some kids in tow.

 

It also occurs to me that perhaps someone seeking a child free cruise may have recently lost a child or recently found out that they can't have one and is looking to get away for a respite. You can't just assume you know based on information that wasn't supplied.

 

 

 

 

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[Cuizer2]

Why is it so difficult to answer a simple question without constructing a mountain out of the proverbial molehill?

 

I provided a link to a cruise critic article on adult only cruising that has been completely ignored.

[Slugsta]

There are some fairly unpleasant responses to people who have dared admit that they would like a child-free cruise, for whatever reason (unpleasant responses, here on CC? Who would ever believe it?!).

 

I haven't seen anyone complaining about children being booked onto a cruise that accepts children. Nor have I seen anyone asking for children to be obliterated from the face of the earth, so why the vitriol?

 

As has been pointed out, P+O has several adult-only ships, SAGA takes only people over 40 and some other UK lines offer some adult only cruises. What's the problem, there are still plenty of cruises for families?!

 

Like someone earlier in the thread, I find high pitched sounds physically painful. Whereas a child laughing makes me husband go 'Awwwww' it makes me run for cover. Yes, I can use ear plugs (and I do) but it is nice to have the option of cutting out one source of the sounds. And since I do have that option, I am happy to take advantage of it. I really don't need anyone's pity, thank you!

[navybankerteacher]

To stay on topic, OP wants a cruise next September or October. He does not seem to care about size of ship, quality of entertainment, itinerary, part of the world, enrichment programs, ports of call, traditional or anytime dining. The ONLY thing he wants is NO children.

 

I believe that focusing on one tangential aspect of a cruise - while apparently ignoring virtually every factor that makes a cruise an interesting option is an unusual obsession - and I do not think it out of line to feel pity for someone whose obsession severely limits his options.

 

Of course I would not want to cruise with a lot of children - but to be unable to tolerate even one is to be obsessed.

 

I wonder if he is aware of the possibility of there being children in ports of call.

[Strophic]

To stay on topic, OP wants a cruise next September or October.

 

 

Actually, he wanted cruises THIS September or October. This thread is a year old and the OP's question has long been answered.

 

 

But I think your line of logic regarding what constitutes an obsession is pretty laughable.

[calliopecruiser]

Of course I would not want to cruise with a lot of children - but to be unable to tolerate even one is to be obsessed.

Apparently you're confusing wanting something with being unable to tolerate not having it.

[navybankerteacher]

Apparently you're confusing wanting something with being unable to tolerate not having it.

 

Perhaps you should reread my post: the confusion is in your response.

[Travelcat2]

navybankerteacher, why in the world do you care so much about this subject? Why can't you simply allow posters to share their preferences and have CC posters support them (even though the TS is no longer here, the subject remains one that is of interest). None of us are telling you what to do or are offering unsolicited opinions about people that want to cruise with adults.

 

Back to the topic. Thank you for insight into cruising in an adult environment. I do know that some foreign cruise lines (foreign to those of us in the U.S.), have child-free cruises but we prefer to sail with U.S. based cruise lines. For now, the luxury lines (Crystal, Regent, Seabourn and Silversea) are mostly child-free but are pricey. Viking Ocean is almost luxury and does not even permit children. Our cruise line of choice is Regent and find that the longer cruises have between 0-4 children on cruises that are two weeks or longer and are when school is in session in the U.S. During the summer there could be upwards of 50 which is a lot for a ship carrying approx. 700 passengers.

[navybankerteacher]

navybankerteacher, why in the world do you care so much about this subject? Why can't you simply allow posters to share their preferences and have CC posters support them (even though the TS is no longer here, the subject remains one that is of interest). None of us are telling you what to do or are offering unsolicited opinions about people that want to cruise with adults.

 

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This thread is under a category referred to as "FIRST TIME CRUISERS" - many of whom are looking for information and thoughts generally. It is not really a disservice to point out that there are considerations other than simply 100% lack of children, which might apply: such as region, ports, type of ship, amenities, accommodations, etc.

 

 

When I see anyone obsessing about just one of many facets, it is, in fact appropriate to suggest that a far broader choice can be available if one has just a modicum of flexibility. By focusing on the child-free factor alone, a person will opt out of perhaps 95% of possibilities which just a little flexibility might allow.

 

 

I am not telling anyone what to do - I am pointing out that tunnel vision is not generally conducive to informed decision.

 

 

Perhaps you might rethink your assumed authority to dictate what I may, or may not, post.

[Cuizer2]

navybankerteacher, why in the world do you care so much about this subject? Why can't you simply allow posters to share their preferences and have CC posters support them ...

 

I was unaware that only supporters are allowed to post. Do you realize that the 2nd "C" stands for critic?